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Hey Kasinda, if I could really pick your words you said NO?
Please do you mind if I ask to know why? |
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iam_resurrected
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going to a Doctor is a lack of Faith i don't recall saying the doctors visit was for myself. Science is used to explain a given reality .. God is use to explain a given fantasy ... funches 3;16 Pew Research proves that over 45% of scientists suffer from some form or more psychological disorders. the only reality these trogs relate to relates to insanity. be my guest and follow blindly. don't you mean scientology? my family does not belong to such tripe. to speak requires that the laws of physics had to first exist before God could have spoke you do know that can be mathematically proven incorrect. thus it would be best to remove it from your lack of knowledge. to crawl afterwards was a curse that was also place on it's descendants ...so can you name one of those descendants and let's see if it's a snake or whatever we do not actually know what the Hebrew symbol for serpent specifically means. once again, the snake idea is from the ENGLISH MIS-TRANSLATIONS. oh so now it wasn't even a serpent ....see how your posts contradicts itself ...stop being scare and reveal what it is ....but before you reveal make sure it's descendants are following the curse and crawling on their bellies we do not actually know what the Hebrew symbol for serpent specifically means. once again, the snake idea is from the ENGLISH MIS-TRANSLATIONS. that implies that you're being used as a "test subject" ... and the human anatomy is not a chemists test subject, people they never met, just have mathematically created a chemical to cure whatever it may be. the fact that is was called 'The Tree of Knowledge" sort of make your opinion moot ...and apparently it was a source of knowledge not connected to nor controlled by God .. it's not Godly knowledge, therefore, it was already moot that fact that God himself proclaimed that he has an image means he's of the physical and have arms and legs and whatever else required to get mary pregnant.. having an image with arms and legs is further proof that God is under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics to have an image only means having an idea of yourself, does not mean what you appear to others, only what you appear to yourself. |
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Yes but might not be what everybody thinks he is
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i don't recall saying the doctors visit was for myself that would imply that you've never been vaccinated nor recommend that anyone should ...if not ..then you lack Faith .. my family does not belong to such tripe believing that your thoughts comes not from yourself but from an outside source is considered as "such tripe" also refer to as "Quantum Woo Woo" you do know that can be mathematically proven incorrect. when it pertains to God, mathematics only applies when it comes to counting the marbles one has lost...."losing one's marbles" we do not actually know what the Hebrew symbol for serpent specifically means. oh oh, you're deflecting again ...it doesn't required anyone to know the symbol of the serpent especially since it's descendants were cursed to crawl on their bellies ...and you won't be able to name any descendant other than a snake ....and that's why it was a snake in the garden of eden ...simple deduction simple logic we do not actually know what the Hebrew symbol for serpent specifically means. once again, the snake idea is from the ENGLISH MIS-TRANSLATIONS actually the symbol of the serpent is the Caduceus and/or the rod asclepius both the symbol of medicine and the reason why those that go to the doctor go to the serpent and have a lack of faith and the human anatomy is not a chemists test subject, people they never met, just have mathematically created a chemical to cure whatever it may be you yet to realize that you're part of a "Drug Trial" they're basically using you as an outpatient Lab Rat it's not Godly knowledge, therefore, it was already moot that's my point..the knowledge handed down by the serpent isn't Godly knowledge or Magic ... it's science to have an image only means having an idea of yourself, does not mean what you appear to others, only what you appear to yourself right...God made man in the same image as he appeared to himself ...that's why God sees himself and man with having arms and legs which places God as being a product of evolution |
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right...God made man in the same image as he appeared to himself ...that's why God sees himself and man with having arms and legs which places God as being a product of evolution you are just blindly swinging for the fences. you are all over the place. something on the flip side: explain to me what you believe and believe in, so i can apply your answers to the tripe you've been attempting to feed me from word "go. let's see if that reverses this conversation, in a direction, that i can finally see your insanity in a much better view point.." |
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you are just blindly swinging for the fences. you are all over the place. sorry but it's not me but the bible that states that God made man in his own image...perhaps to insure the faithful that God is like them and not an alien freak like the flying spaghetti Monster ...that God is like a man a humanoid under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics with arms and legs but no vagina (because the bible apparently hates women) something on the flip side: whatttttt?????? ...but you still haven't answered the snake/serpent question ... THE SNAKE/SERPENT QUESTION if it wasn't the descendants of a snake that were cursed by The Lord Almighty to crawl on their bellies...then supply the name of the creature that was in the garden whom cursed descendents today belly crawl .....but if you can't name anything ...then accept the enlightenment that it was nothing else but a snake ....er.. that talked explain to me what you believe and believe in, "to believe is to doubt" ... funches 3:16 |
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sorry but it's not me but the bible that states that God made man in his own image...perhaps to insure the faithful that God is like them and not an alien freak like the flying spaghetti Monster ...that God is like a man a humanoid under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics with arms and legs but no vagina (because the bible apparently hates women) the term image is just a definition for body. how the Hebrews break God down, obviously found specifically in Psalms and the Prophets, is that just a minute portion of the entire body of God was ever revealed. example: the reason it claims Yeshua ascended to the heavens and then is said to be found STANDING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. in the Torah, Old Testament, the Messiah was described as being the king of Kings that leads them to final victory over their Spiritual Enemies. therefore, the Messiah = Right Hand = POWER of God!! ...and the rest of God's body is described from that point... the entirety of God, was His Knowledge, He was All Knowing. To the Hebrews, this portion of God's body is His Mind. And to them, God's Mind was the Universe, the stars and planets spoken by Isaiah, Job speaks of God in terms of planet Earth to the Sun and the immediate Galaxy. there is even a reference of God proclaiming to hanging certain star patterns (like we would say there is the Big & Little Dipper). to the Hebrews, God's physical body was the Universe beyond them. Daniel speaks of the heavens growing/increasing daily. We know this from Science. But the Hebrews named Celestial Bodies to the over all make up of who God was to them. Moses touches on this in his Books. whatttttt?????? ...but you still haven't answered the snake/serpent question ... THE SNAKE/SERPENT QUESTION if it wasn't the descendants of a snake that were cursed by The Lord Almighty to crawl on their bellies...then supply the name of the creature that was in the garden whom cursed descendents today belly crawl .....but if you can't name anything ...then accept the enlightenment that it was nothing else but a snake ....er.. that talked נָחָשׁ snake, serpent שָׂטָן devil, Satan, fiend, arch enemy, adversary, serpent רָשָׁע fiend, serpent אוֹפִיקלֵד serpent 1 Now the serpent was cunning, more than all the beasts of the field that the Lord God had made, and it said to the woman, "Did God indeed say, 'You shall not eat of any of the trees of the garden?'" אוְהַנָּחָשׁ֙ הָיָ֣ה עָר֔וּם מִכֹּל֙ חַיַּ֣ת הַשָּׂדֶ֔ה אֲשֶׁ֥ר עָשָׂ֖ה יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהִ֑ים וַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ אֶל־הָ֣אִשָּׁ֔ה אַ֚ף כִּֽי־אָמַ֣ר אֱלֹהִ֔ים לֹ֣א תֹֽאכְל֔וּ מִכֹּ֖ל עֵ֥ץ הַגָּֽן: the word used for SERPENT in the original HEBREW (shown also in the verse 1 of Chapter 3 of Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 3) is the word meant for ADVERSARY (as in the DEVIL, SATAN, LOUIE CYPHER). ^ PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE ENGLISH MISTRANSLATING THE TORAH/HEBREW LANGUAGE!! ***NOW*** for the verse you mention being cursed to crawl on your belly: that is a reference to what God is going to do to the Adversary for lying to Eve. It's an actual "curse" to the Spiritual side of Evil. Not a physical trait, nothing related to snakes at all. This is a Spiritual point where God shows His Creation Mercy. The Hebrews call it endless Mercies that go on forever and ever. "to believe is to doubt" ... funches 3:16 it's actually quite the opposite: to believe is to remove doubt...ME 3:3 |
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I find it hard to accept that the official translations of the bible are 'wrong' according to one poster here online. The truth is that these translations are all done very carefully by scholars who research their work very carefully. For one person just to dismiss it because it doesn't agree with his own view is arrogant.
The thread asks the question, "Does God exist?" it doesn't ask for self-important people to try to describe bible translations and explain why they might be 'wrong' or 'mistranslations'. The simple answer to the simple question, is 'NO God does NOT exist, there is quite simply no such thing'. Therefore all the discussions about what the bible says and what it really means are totally irrelevant! Of course there are people who that God does exist, but I am not at all surprised that the believers can't even agree on what it is that they believe in! No wonder the world is in the mess it is, with fights between Muslims and Christians and even between Christians who have slightly different beliefs and also Muslims, Shia and Sunny. If there really was a God, everyone in the world would believe in the same God and there would be no arguments. Only people who believe and people who don't. The priest who has impressed me most in my life was the one who wasn't certain in his beliefs. Those who are totally certain, to the point where they will argue with other believers are the most arrogant people. My posts are not intended to be part of the arguments going on here, the only discussion is a simple yes or no and my thoughts are well known. Interestingly, only Tom has replied to my question asking what it is you actually DO believe in. Who among you are Baptists? Methodists? Catholics? Hindu? Muslim? I suspect the truth is that like Tom you have your own belief which are connected with one or other of the mainstream religions, but you know better and therefore don't admit that your own beliefs are in truth just homemade beliefs in which you discard as 'mistranslation' anything you don't like. Thank you Tom for being the only poster who has answered my question. 
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I guess you did not hear, that GOD loosed satan to rule the world for 1000 years. HE cares, but he also is a man of His word, and I believe its difficult for him to watch. He has protected me over my life time many, many times, and just recently on this site he has saved me from scammers 4 of 4 people who contacted me were that , of evil itself. Pity
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I guess you did not hear, that GOD loosed satan to rule the world for 1000 years. HE cares, but he also is a man of His word, and I believe its difficult for him to watch. He has protected me over my life time many, many times, and just recently on this site he has saved me from scammers 4 of 4 people who contacted me were that , of evil itself. Pity So when did the thousand years begin ? and what happens when the 1000 years ends ? |
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he term image is just a definition for body. thank you for supplying the evidence that God used the term "image" because God has a body ... the entirety of God, was His Knowledge, He was All Knowing. To the Hebrews, this portion of God's body is His Mind. because God grieve that he had made man is proof that God is either not all-knowing or like to punish himself to the Hebrews, God's physical body was the Universe beyond them. thanks for providing more evidence that even the Hebrews believe that God has a physical body ...therefore have arms and legs which place him under the jurisdiction of the laws of physics 1 Now the serpent was cunning, more than all the beasts of the field that the Lord God had made, thanks ...you provided proof that the serpent was one of the beasts that God himself made and place in the Garden ...so now can you stop beating around the burning bush and name a descendent that crawl on its belly ..if you can't or won't ...then by default it was a snake in the garden the word used for SERPENT in the original HEBREW (shown also in the verse 1 of Chapter 3 of Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 3) is the word meant for ADVERSARY (as in the DEVIL, SATAN, LOUIE CYPHER). nope, as usual you have things backwards ...whenever God would send a messenger to stop a human from doing something they would be referred to as an "ADVERSARY" or an ARCH ENEMY or a SATAN..or a DEVIL ...there were even Arch Angels...these terms would apply to the angels or any human that God would send PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE ENGLISH MISTRANSLATING THE TORAH/HEBREW LANGUAGE!! yes you are a perfect example ...but alas...you're doing like most Christians do and confusing The Bible with the book "Paradise Lost" in which he was accused of being those things you mention ..but was none of those things in the Torah ... to believe is to remove doubt...ME 3:3 if there were no doubt... then you would not have to believe.. you would "know" THE QUESTION: do you "believe" you exist or do you "know" that you exist please choose only one term "believe" or "know" thank you very much nterestingly, only Tom has replied to my question asking what it is you actually DO believe in. because it's irrelevant ..when discussing leprechauns must we also reveal if we're Irish or Irish Catholic ..if you can't tell what the person is by their posts...then it makes for a good unbiased debate ..all that should matter is discussing within the parameters of the belief and providing "rational evidence" that a pot of gold does indeed exist at the ends of a rainbow or concluding if the believer or the belief is delusional Thank you Tom for being the only poster who has answered my question. actually he didn't answer ..if so...he would just admitted that he was a deist, worshipping a God of anarchy while following a philosophy of making excuses not to go to church or pay tithes |
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Why would anyone want to go to church?
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I guess you did not hear, that GOD loosed satan to rule the world for 1000 years. HE cares, but he also is a man of His word, and I believe its difficult for him to watch. He has protected me over my life time many, many times, and just recently on this site he has saved me from scammers 4 of 4 people who contacted me were that , of evil itself. Pity I don't listen to the myths and fairy tales from delusional people who are gullible enough to 'believe' in this nonsense. If there was a 'god' why would she rule the world for a thousand years only? Has that time started yet? Or finished? How would we know? And why would we care? Nobody has saved you from scammers, you just realised for yourself that there are scammers here and indeed everywhere you look. Don't make excuses and try to the blame onto some mthical being who simply does not exist. You are responsible for everything you do and everything you decide not to do. Nobody else is. Take responsibility for your actions and don't pass the blame to mythical beings. |
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I find it hard to accept that the official translations of the bible are 'wrong' according to one poster here online. The truth is that these translations are all done very carefully by scholars who research their work very carefully. For one person just to dismiss it because it doesn't agree with his own view is arrogant. The thread asks the question, "Does God exist?" it doesn't ask for self-important people to try to describe bible translations and explain why they might be 'wrong' or 'mistranslations'. The simple answer to the simple question, is 'NO God does NOT exist, there is quite simply no such thing'. Therefore all the discussions about what the bible says and what it really means are totally irrelevant! Of course there are people who that God does exist, but I am not at all surprised that the believers can't even agree on what it is that they believe in! No wonder the world is in the mess it is, with fights between Muslims and Christians and even between Christians who have slightly different beliefs and also Muslims, Shia and Sunny. If there really was a God, everyone in the world would believe in the same God and there would be no arguments. Only people who believe and people who don't. The priest who has impressed me most in my life was the one who wasn't certain in his beliefs. Those who are totally certain, to the point where they will argue with other believers are the most arrogant people. My posts are not intended to be part of the arguments going on here, the only discussion is a simple yes or no and my thoughts are well known. Interestingly, only Tom has replied to my question asking what it is you actually DO believe in. Who among you are Baptists? Methodists? Catholics? Hindu? Muslim? I suspect the truth is that like Tom you have your own belief which are connected with one or other of the mainstream religions, but you know better and therefore don't admit that your own beliefs are in truth just homemade beliefs in which you discard as 'mistranslation' anything you don't like. Thank you Tom for being the only poster who has answered my question. I love how God irritates you!! I love how ignorant that you are concerning what the scholars know; yes they know these mis-translations exist. example for you: from the original Aramaic: ***WHAT I AM POINTING OUT IS THE MEANING OF THESE 3 VERSES IN 1 JOHN 5:6-8*** IN THIS ARAMAIC MEANING, IT IS SPEAKING ABOUT YESHUA/JESUS ONLY 6 This is The One who came by means of The Water and The Blood; Eshu Meshikha {Yeshua, The Anointed One}. It wasn't of The Water alone, but rather, by The Water and The Blood. ܘܪܘܚܐ ܡܣܗܕܐ ܕܗܝ ܪܘܚܐ ܐܝܬܝܗ ܫܪܪܐ 7 And The Rukha {The Spirit} testifies; because that One, The Rukha {The Spirit}, is The Truth. ܘܐܝܬܝܗܘܢ ܬܠܬܐ ܣܗܕܝܢ ܪܘܚܐ ܘܡܝܐ ܘܕܡܐ ܘܬܠܬܝܗܘܢ ܒܚܕ ܐܢܘܢ 8 And there are three testifying: The Rukha {The Spirit}, and The Water, and The Blood. And these three are in One. NOW THE GREEK ALSO IS ABOUT YESHUA: 6 This is He Who is coming through water and blood and spirit - Jesus Christ - not in the water only, but in the water and in the blood. And the spirit it is which is testifying, for the spirit is the truth, 7 seeing that three there are that are testifying, 8 the spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are for the one thing." AND THE LATIN VULGATE VERIFY THE ARAMAIC AND GREEK THESE ARE DISCUSSING YESHUA/JESUS ONLY!! FROM THE LATIN VULGATE: 6 hic est qui venit per aquam et sanguinem Iesus Christus non in aqua solum sed in aqua et sanguine et Spiritus est qui testificatur quoniam Christus est veritas This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ: not by water only but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit which testifieth that Christ is the truth. 7 quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant And there are Three who give testimony 8 Spiritus et aqua et sanguis et tres unum sunt the spirit and the water and the blood. And these three are one. BUT-BUT-BUT LOOK AT THE MISTRANSLATED ENGLISH BIBLE FROM SAME VERSES: THIS ENGLISH VIEW IS FROM A TRIUNE GOD, NOT FROM LIKE YESHUA FOUND IN THE ORIGINALS: FROM THE KJV ENGLISH MISTRANSLATED BIBLE: 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. NOW SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT VERSE 7 IN ALL TRANSLATIONS...THE ENGLISH NOT ONLY DOES NOT MATCH...BUT IS [[ADDED]] TO IT!! you can bet your atheist butt that Scholars are well aware of that. That does not even include the Old Testament interferences like the word LUCIFER. LUCIFER, is a Latin vulgate word from a Language that did not exist when the Book of Isaiah was written in 100% HEBREW!! But yet, in the 100% Hebrew Worded book of Isaiah, the Latin Vulgate word LUCIFER can be found... you just don't have a clue and are running your opinion like you even know what you are claiming, other than smoke coming from your ... |
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Simply, I don't care whether anyone agrees with my understanding of God.
My God, My Rules. I exist in reality, just like anyone else. I don't need to be forgiven for living in this reality and my God doesn't. My God requires nothing and expects nothing. I am merely matter within a cosmos. The God I know exists everywhere, everything and everywhen. It exists between the moments of time. It requires no belief to be. It just is. |
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God does not irritate me, because it is impossible for a non-existent entity to irritate me. Even the people who post here about their belief don't irritate me. They do however made me sad that people in 2019 can believe that the bible was 'mistranslated' by all the experts who spend all their time trying to understand what the original words actually meant. And then being so arrogant that they feel they can dismiss all this scholarly work and say they know better. You might as well say that the earth is flat. Many people claim that and it is a source of great amusement to read all the things they come up with trying to 'prove' that the majority of people in the world are either deluding themselves or suffering from some great conspiracy be people who know the world is really flat but for some (unexplained) reason want us all to think it is round. The parallels with this thread are part of my amusement.
Please keep them coming, especially the detailed arguments about who said what and what they meant. It has my falling off my chair everytime one of these is posted. I am waiting for more of this entertainment! 
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I agree with everything that Tom says, except that what he calls God, I call existence. What we have is what we've got and that's all there is to it. I think the word 'god' is best reserved for those who believe that there is some sort of being who for some reason is interested, and possibly capable, or controlling our lives. The usual question that people like to ask is can God make a rock that is too heavy for her to lift? If yes, she cannot be omnipotent because there is something she cannot do (lift a heavy rock). If no there is something she cannot do (make a heavy rock). These conundrums also amuse me, as do the ridiculous attempts to 'explain' them.
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PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE ENGLISH MISTRANSLATING THE TORAH/HEBREW LANGUAGE!! the only mistranslated word you should be focusing on is the word "God" ...you're suppose to refer to him as Yahweh ...and you have to practically crucify a Christian to get them to do that ...but until you're willing to do the Yahweh thing....it's proof that your posts on that particular subject are deceptive and dishonest Why would anyone want to go to church? to find women, to find a spouse, to get married, to drink blood and eat flesh, to get circumcised ouch ouch ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , Simply, I don't care whether anyone agrees with my understanding of God. My God, My Rules. I exist in reality, just like anyone else. I don't need to be forgiven for living in this reality and my God doesn't. My God requires nothing and expects nothing. I am merely matter within a cosmos. God does not irritate me The God I know exists everywhere, everything and everywhen. It exists between the moments of time. It requires no belief to be. It just is. if you wish to promote the delusion that God exist, then you're responsible for those that kill in his name God does not irritate me only his followers do |
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Religion is for poor people to follow and have hope just like communism.
The people at the top and those dictating it don't give a  they've got what they want! Power and money! Keep the little people little and wanting and they will follow! |
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