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Topic: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking
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Fri 04/04/08 07:23 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 04/04/08 07:24 PM
This is really a hard question to answer. I read of a case in Texas where the State virtually kidnapped a child away from their parents because the parents and the child did not want to go through Kemo theropy treatments for cancer.

The child had cancer. The parents were looking at and considering alternative treatments. The State decided they knew better and so they took the child by force against the parents and the child's wishes. They gave the child the treatments, then returned the child and presented the Parents with the hospital bills for it.

I know there are alternative treatments for cancer and I know what Kemo does. My Aunt had Kemo until all her hair fell out, and eventually she was sent home with pain pills and given two weeks to live. Yet when she found alternative treatment, her condition improved, her tumor disappeared and she lived for five more years.

But when did we loose our right decide?

Praying for a healing instead of taking the child to a doctor is ignorance, plain and simple. I agree that it is stupid and negligent.

Pray all you want, but do all you can to heal that child!

But tread very carefully before you pass laws that will hand over your children to THE STATE. THE STATE is not always the best parent.

JB


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Sat 04/05/08 01:22 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html

WESTON, Wis. — An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday.



Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said Madeline Neumann died Sunday.

"She got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.

Vergin said an autopsy determined the girl died from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body, and she had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.

The girl's parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, attributed the death to "apparently they didn't have enough faith," the police chief said.

They believed the key to healing "was it was better to keep praying. Call more people to help pray," he said.

The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said.

Telephone messages left at the Neumann home by The Associated Press were not immediately returned.

The family does not attend an organized church or participate in an organized religion, Vergin said. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."

The parents told investigators their daughter last saw a doctor when she was 3 to get some shots, Vergin said. The girl had attended public school during the first semester but didn't return for the second semester.

Officers went to the home after one of the girl's relatives in California called police to check on her, Vergin said. She was taken to a hospital where she was pronounced dead.

The relative was fearful the girl was "extremely ill, dire," Vergin said.

The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

The girl's death remains under investigation and the findings will be forwarded to the district attorney to review for possible charges, the chief said.

The family operates a coffee shop in Weston, which is a suburb of Wausau, Vergin said.




Spqr: I did not see that you had posted this story. I posted an article I wrote in response to this story but if you request or if the mods feel that it is duplication, I'll happily take it down. Sorry for the redundancy--I did not see yours.

Best,
Drew

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Sun 04/06/08 10:59 PM
People like that tick me off..explode
I mean COME ON! YES pray for healing for her but give her the meds she needed and then down the road God could have healed her if it was his will.
My grandmother who is a pastor has a whole host of things that God has tested her with {Diabetes, MGS for starters} her body is shutting down and she is going to Die because the Doctors failed to inform her about things they wanted to do to try and help her.
The point is this, my grandmother is one of the most faith filled people ever I would say and God hasn't healed her because through it all she by all rights should have died before my mom was even born.
Just because God doesn't heal someone right away {and sometimes never} people think they "don't have enough faith" and yet it was said in the Bible that all the faith you need is the faith of a mustard seed!!! so Unless they had no faith at all I don't see what the problem with getting her the meds while they waited for God to heal.
I swear the stupidity of people sometimes astounds me!!!mad

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Mon 04/07/08 12:58 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html

WESTON, Wis. — An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday.



Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said Madeline Neumann died Sunday.

"She got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.

Vergin said an autopsy determined the girl died from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body, and she had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.

The girl's parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, attributed the death to "apparently they didn't have enough faith," the police chief said.

They believed the key to healing "was it was better to keep praying. Call more people to help pray," he said.

The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said.

Telephone messages left at the Neumann home by The Associated Press were not immediately returned.

The family does not attend an organized church or participate in an organized religion, Vergin said. "They have a little Bible study of a few people."

The parents told investigators their daughter last saw a doctor when she was 3 to get some shots, Vergin said. The girl had attended public school during the first semester but didn't return for the second semester.

Officers went to the home after one of the girl's relatives in California called police to check on her, Vergin said. She was taken to a hospital where she was pronounced dead.

The relative was fearful the girl was "extremely ill, dire," Vergin said.

The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

The girl's death remains under investigation and the findings will be forwarded to the district attorney to review for possible charges, the chief said.

The family operates a coffee shop in Weston, which is a suburb of Wausau, Vergin said.




Praying is great, and I think it does help a lot, I think a lot of people get better because of it.


This though, this is sick, taking your child to the doctor doesn't mean you have no faith?! what were these people thinking!

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Mon 04/07/08 01:00 AM
Welcome to hickville, Wisconsin.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/07/08 08:35 AM
anytime beliefs break the law...then you have to answer to the law. God wants me to do all I can for my son.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 04/07/08 10:24 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 04/07/08 10:24 AM
flowerforyou There is only ONE TRUE GOD.flowerforyou Death to all governments.flowerforyou

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Mon 04/07/08 02:08 PM

flowerforyou There is only ONE TRUE GOD.flowerforyou Death to all governments.flowerforyou
laugh I was fired up when I wrote thatlaugh Im alot calmer now laugh lollaugh

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