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Topic: The "Rules" of War
Jess642 Joined Sat 03/31/07 Posts: 22732	Sat 03/29/08 09:41 PM
Battle flag in the bassinet Oil and blood on the bayonet Crowded downtown hit the floor What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? The world got smaller but the bombs got bigger Holocaust on a hairpin trigger Aint no game so forget the score What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What will I tell my daughter? What will you tell your son? Where were all the doves? That we were nothing but a shadow, a faceless generation devoid of love? The crucifix ain't no baseball bat Tell me what kind of God is that? Ain't nothing more godless than a war So what are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What are we fightin' for? What will I tell my daughter? What will you tell your son? Where were all the doves? That we were nothing but a shadow, A faceless generation? What are we fightin' for?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sat 03/29/08 10:00 PM
Remember this one? Come on all of you big strong men Uncle Sam needs your help again he's got himself in a terrible jam way down yonder in Viet Nam so put down your books and pick up a gun we're gonna have a whole lotta fun (CHORUS) And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Viet Nam And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die Come on wall street don't be slow why man this war is a go-go there's plenty good money to be made by supplying the army with the tools of its trade let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb, they drop it on the Viet Cong Come on generals, let's move fast your big chance has come at last now you can go out and get those reds cos the only good commie is the one that's dead and you know that peace can only be won when we've blown 'em all to kingdom come Come on mothers throughout the land pack your boys off to Viet Nam come on fathers don't hesitate send your sons off before it's too late and you can be the first ones on your block to have your boy come home in a box This is why Bush resists imposing the draft!

Gypsy41 Joined Tue 05/15/07 Posts: 123359	Sun 03/30/08 12:19 AM
wHERE have all the flowers gone???

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Sun 03/30/08 12:20 AM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Do you know me? Do you know what I've done? Have you even a clue on the actions I have taken to get an understanding of this war? No. With that in mind your argument is deteriating too little more than nothing, I have taken action, I have spoke words, I have sent letters, I have tried to get an explanation for this war's motive and will continue to do so. For you to say because I don't fight this war I can't complain is arrogant, selfish and mindless. I will complain about anything that affects me personally until the day I die whether or not I am directly apart of the matter or not. Do not tell me otherwise.

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Sun 03/30/08 12:22 AM
Besides I'm not against war, I have nothing against it...as I said a terrible necassity, regardless of that you saw what you wanted thus provoking the comment you made. I am probably more politically involved with my country than you are, see how easy it is to assume based off words...

Marine1488 Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 323	Sun 03/30/08 04:18 AM Edited by Marine1488 on Sun 03/30/08 04:19 AM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Do you know me? Do you know what I've done? Have you even a clue on the actions I have taken to get an understanding of this war? No. With that in mind your argument is deteriating too little more than nothing, I have taken action, I have spoke words, I have sent letters, I have tried to get an explanation for this war's motive and will continue to do so. For you to say because I don't fight this war I can't complain is arrogant, selfish and mindless. I will complain about anything that affects me personally until the day I die whether or not I am directly apart of the matter or not. Do not tell me otherwise. So you are free to complain about this but when I say STFU you attack me? Where is my freedom of speech. Kinda hypocritical..ya think. Must be nice just to wake up and enjoy freedoms given to me by others. Gives you more time to spike your hair.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/30/08 06:35 AM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Do you know me? Do you know what I've done? Have you even a clue on the actions I have taken to get an understanding of this war? No. With that in mind your argument is deteriating too little more than nothing, I have taken action, I have spoke words, I have sent letters, I have tried to get an explanation for this war's motive and will continue to do so. For you to say because I don't fight this war I can't complain is arrogant, selfish and mindless. I will complain about anything that affects me personally until the day I die whether or not I am directly apart of the matter or not. Do not tell me otherwise. So you are free to complain about this but when I say STFU you attack me? Where is my freedom of speech. Kinda hypocritical..ya think. Must be nice just to wake up and enjoy freedoms given to me by others. Gives you more time to spike your hair. pot calls kettle black and meanwhile back in the land of reality america continues to bankrupt itself by dropping freedom bombs and shells in Iraq and maintaining freedom torture chambers.

Marine1488 Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 323	Sun 03/30/08 07:37 AM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Do you know me? Do you know what I've done? Have you even a clue on the actions I have taken to get an understanding of this war? No. With that in mind your argument is deteriating too little more than nothing, I have taken action, I have spoke words, I have sent letters, I have tried to get an explanation for this war's motive and will continue to do so. For you to say because I don't fight this war I can't complain is arrogant, selfish and mindless. I will complain about anything that affects me personally until the day I die whether or not I am directly apart of the matter or not. Do not tell me otherwise. So you are free to complain about this but when I say STFU you attack me? Where is my freedom of speech. Kinda hypocritical..ya think. Must be nice just to wake up and enjoy freedoms given to me by others. Gives you more time to spike your hair. pot calls kettle black and meanwhile back in the land of reality america continues to bankrupt itself by dropping freedom bombs and shells in Iraq and maintaining freedom torture chambers. If there is a union company making what you call "Freedom Bombs" you would work there madman.

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Sun 03/30/08 11:55 AM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Do you know me? Do you know what I've done? Have you even a clue on the actions I have taken to get an understanding of this war? No. With that in mind your argument is deteriating too little more than nothing, I have taken action, I have spoke words, I have sent letters, I have tried to get an explanation for this war's motive and will continue to do so. For you to say because I don't fight this war I can't complain is arrogant, selfish and mindless. I will complain about anything that affects me personally until the day I die whether or not I am directly apart of the matter or not. Do not tell me otherwise. So you are free to complain about this but when I say STFU you attack me? Where is my freedom of speech. Kinda hypocritical..ya think. Must be nice just to wake up and enjoy freedoms given to me by others. Gives you more time to spike your hair. How come my hair is always brought up by people...I never attacked you about saying STFU, I said nobody has to shut up...get it right.

Marine1488 Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 323	Sun 03/30/08 02:16 PM
same difference. By the way. Punk died in the 70's.

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sun 03/30/08 02:21 PM
same difference. By the way. Punk died in the 70's. marine..for the most part I'm in argeement with you...but can we please try without insults? I don't always agree with fear...but i consider him a friend as well and i know the 2 of us can have a civil debate. it's not a matter of freedom of speech. it's a matter of the rules of JSH and getting your point across in a better way ty

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/30/08 03:50 PM
same difference. By the way. Punk died in the 70's. marine..for the most part I'm in argeement with you...but can we please try without insults? I don't always agree with fear...but i consider him a friend as well and i know the 2 of us can have a civil debate. it's not a matter of freedom of speech. it's a matter of the rules of JSH and getting your point across in a better way ty I second the motion

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sun 03/30/08 03:52 PM
same difference. By the way. Punk died in the 70's. marine..for the most part I'm in argeement with you...but can we please try without insults? I don't always agree with fear...but i consider him a friend as well and i know the 2 of us can have a civil debate. it's not a matter of freedom of speech. it's a matter of the rules of JSH and getting your point across in a better way ty I second the motion omg...I just got the warm fuzzies that we agreed

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 03/30/08 04:02 PM
same difference. By the way. Punk died in the 70's. marine..for the most part I'm in argeement with you...but can we please try without insults? I don't always agree with fear...but i consider him a friend as well and i know the 2 of us can have a civil debate. it's not a matter of freedom of speech. it's a matter of the rules of JSH and getting your point across in a better way ty I second the motion omg...I just got the warm fuzzies that we agreed dont be alarmed I have that effect on most women

Poetrywriter Joined Sun 10/14/07 Posts: 22675	Sun 03/30/08 04:22 PM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Marine, I am totally with you, but the people you are referring to will not listen.

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sun 03/30/08 05:44 PM
well madison...when I take over the world from pinky...i MIGHT keep you around

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Sun 03/30/08 10:47 PM
Maya Schenwar??? Which unit is she fighting in?? When you are there or have been there. Feel free to tell me your opinion,until then...STFU!!!!!!!!! I see this is floating back to this...Nobody has to shut up, that is why soldiers are fighting wars, so we can keep this freedom called speech. If I have an opinion on the war and wish to express it, that is within my full power to do so and if you don't like that opinion you don't have to read it... Freedom of speech or propaganda for the enemy. Okay we get it. War is bad. You don't like it and you don't like the fact that we are in it. But you continue to do nothing positive. Are you pro-troop? Then send letters or care packages. Don't shield yourself with free speech. People who spend their time on here downing our government,president,how wrong America is and how right the U.N. is. You act as if your some kind of warrior poet. How much experiance do you have in this area. P.S. This is a DATING SITE. Has someone actually came along and said to you "Wow! It really turns me on the way you bad mouth the U.S.." Get a hobby. Marine, I am totally with you, but the people you are referring to will not listen. I already stated this, but will do it again for the blind. I am not (that's right "not") against war...understood now?

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 03/31/08 09:06 AM
Well I am justifiably against this illegal war. We should not be in Iraq to begin with and instead of saying so and calling our men and women home our illustrious baby shrub has gotten what he wanted out of it and that was Saddam, cause nobody, I mean nobody says anything about his daddy???!!! So he continues to try to control the heathens who by the way never asked to be democricized in the first place and who do not want us there. Shrub has tried almost successfully to take this country to toilet and WE LET HIM DO IT!!!!! Shame on us

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Mon 03/31/08 10:08 AM
everyone is justifiably for what they chose to belive in on this subject. i believe the opposite as you and i'm just as justifiably for my beliefs

Disaronno Joined Sun 11/04/07 Posts: 679	Mon 03/31/08 06:45 PM
Ya know Dragon - you have referred to this as 'illegal war' more than once. Now - aside from your usual mindless cut/paste drivel, which is where you picked up a catchy phrase 'illegal war' in which you haven't a clue. Please - enlighten us - what EXACTLY makes it "illegal" Note: - you must format your answer correctly - This means, you must state the jurisdictional court, the charge, and how the allegations meet the specifications of that charge. Example - Under the State of Maryland Annotated Code, there is a charge of burglary. Specifications include being in another's home (breaking and entering) and it must happen at night. So - you cannot rightly get a conviction, let alone court time, if you charge burglary for someone doing a B&E a 2 p.m. So - since you wish to pander about the 'illegal" war - please provide the above information. Please cite your references as well.