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I think you opened a LARGE can of worms.
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I think men and women do the same thing; they pick their mates based on nothing more than physical attractiveness. Then they wonder why their girlfriends cheat, or their men are not home. I think the choice of a mate should be based on a person's character, their intelligence, their kindess. Why does it matter what they look like? Looks change over time anyway. So what difference does it really make? I never understood that and I guess I never will. Nice looking people are nice to look at. Don't most people require more than that?
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. I am curious why evolution would hardwire men to be attracted to skinny women, when heavier women would withstand famine better, and would have more estrogen for reproductive purposes. I would like to see the research on that. I understand that they are drawn by appearance, but who said that the most favorable appearance had to be a thin woman? |
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I think men and women do the same thing; they pick their mates based on nothing more than physical attractiveness. Then they wonder why their girlfriends cheat, or their men are not home. I think the choice of a mate should be based on a person's character, their intelligence, their kindess. Why does it matter what they look like? Looks change over time anyway. So what difference does it really make? I never understood that and I guess I never will. Nice looking people are nice to look at. Don't most people require more than that? nah, i pick mine off of sexual prowess... |
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I think men and women do the same thing; they pick their mates based on nothing more than physical attractiveness. Then they wonder why their girlfriends cheat, or their men are not home. I think the choice of a mate should be based on a person's character, their intelligence, their kindess. Why does it matter what they look like? Looks change over time anyway. So what difference does it really make? I never understood that and I guess I never will. Nice looking people are nice to look at. Don't most people require more than that? nah, i pick mine off of sexual prowess... well, you ARE a **** |
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. I am curious why evolution would hardwire men to be attracted to skinny women, when heavier women would withstand famine better, and would have more estrogen for reproductive purposes. I would like to see the research on that. I understand that they are drawn by appearance, but who said that the most favorable appearance had to be a thin woman? According to scientist, men are biologically attracted to women who have fat deposits in certain places (for child-bearing purposes) and women with symmetry in their faces (a preference we all have). Plenty of societies and cultures find curvy, heavier women attractive, and societal preferences wax and wane. Case in point: the "perfect woman" during Michelangelo's time would be considered fat now. Twiggy, so popular 40 years ago or so, would be too skinny for many of today's men. Some cultures see a hefty wife as indicative of the husband's wealth; if she's rotund, it means he can afford to pay for someone to do her chores. To say men are "biologically" attracted to one sort of woman or another is scientifically not exactly true.... |
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. I am curious why evolution would hardwire men to be attracted to skinny women, when heavier women would withstand famine better, and would have more estrogen for reproductive purposes. I would like to see the research on that. I understand that they are drawn by appearance, but who said that the most favorable appearance had to be a thin woman? According to scientist, men are biologically attracted to women who have fat deposits in certain places (for child-bearing purposes) and women with symmetry in their faces (a preference we all have). Plenty of societies and cultures find curvy, heavier women attractive, and societal preferences wax and wane. Case in point: the "perfect woman" during Michelangelo's time would be considered fat now. Twiggy, so popular 40 years ago or so, would be too skinny for many of today's men. Some cultures see a hefty wife as indicative of the husband's wealth; if she's rotund, it means he can afford to pay for someone to do her chores. To say men are "biologically" attracted to one sort of woman or another is scientifically not exactly true.... the voice of reason!! Thank you. |
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We all have personal preferences, things that we find attractive or not. I just wish that this would be regonised & people would accept that appearance is not value.
Many people here feel like they are not worthy, or are percieved as not worthy because of wieght, hieght, hair loss, ect. I am no beauty but I have a lot to offer to the right guy who can find something about me can be attracted to. Everyone has some good features! |
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. I am curious why evolution would hardwire men to be attracted to skinny women, when heavier women would withstand famine better, and would have more estrogen for reproductive purposes. I would like to see the research on that. I understand that they are drawn by appearance, but who said that the most favorable appearance had to be a thin woman? According to scientist, men are biologically attracted to women who have fat deposits in certain places (for child-bearing purposes) and women with symmetry in their faces (a preference we all have). Plenty of societies and cultures find curvy, heavier women attractive, and societal preferences wax and wane. Case in point: the "perfect woman" during Michelangelo's time would be considered fat now. Twiggy, so popular 40 years ago or so, would be too skinny for many of today's men. Some cultures see a hefty wife as indicative of the husband's wealth; if she's rotund, it means he can afford to pay for someone to do her chores. To say men are "biologically" attracted to one sort of woman or another is scientifically not exactly true.... the voice of reason!! Thank you. Just puttin' those books to good use. 
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Edited by
WhiteSox0507
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Sat 03/22/08 06:12 PM
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. true, but we aren't living in caves anymore. True, but the same prinicpal still applies today. It's evolutionary and our emotions are pre-wired to feel attraction for these traits. so how is it that some people are attracted to others based on traits, like, I don't know, intelligence, kindness, wit, honesty? Are they just more highly evolved? You jumped to a conclusion by misenterpreting what I said. I said men's attraction is based on appearance. I never said it had to be fat, skinny, tall, short, black, white, green, blue, etc. Everyone has their own preference. There are men who are attracted to bigger women. There's nothing wrong with that. That's what their perception of what high replication value is. As for other traits you mentioned, that applies more to survival value. I didn't say the only reason men are attracted to women is because of appearance, it's just one of the bigger reasons. I don't think it's fair to call guys jerks because a bigger woman doesn't attract them. Their emotional attraction swithces just aren't flipped by her appearance. The same concept applies to women. So many women complain about not being able to find a "nice guy". "Nice guys" are all over the place, but they don't possess certain alpha male qualities that would increase her survival chances. Therefore, a woman feels no attraction for him. So should the "nice guys" start calling women jerks because she isn't attracted to him? |
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'Nice" "attractive" "good" all words we often use, but they mean something different to everyone.
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. true, but we aren't living in caves anymore. True, but the same prinicpal still applies today. It's evolutionary and our emotions are pre-wired to feel attraction for these traits. so how is it that some people are attracted to others based on traits, like, I don't know, intelligence, kindness, wit, honesty? Are they just more highly evolved? You jumped to a conclusion by misenterpreting what I said. I said men's attraction is based on appearance. I never said it had to be fat, skinny, tall, short, black, white, green, blue, etc. Everyone has their own preference. There are men who are attracted to bigger women. There's nothing wrong with that. That's what their perception of high replication value is. As for other traits you mentioned, that applies more to survival value. I didn't say the only reason men are attracted to women is because of appearance, it's just one of the bigger reasons. I don't think it's fair to call guys jerks because a bigger woman doesn't attract them. Their emotional attraction swithces just aren't flipped by her appearance. The same concept applies to women. So many women complain about not being able to find a "nice guy". "Nice guys" are all over the place, but they don't possess certain alpha male qualities that would increase her survival chances. Therefore, a woman feels no attraction for him. So should the "nice guys" start calling women jerks because she isn't attracted to him? Ok thanks for clarifying that. I would never call someone a jerk for not being attracted to someone. If you read through my threads, I never said anything like that, because I don't believe it. And if you hang around here long enough, you will find that "nice guys" are constantly calling women jerks for not being attracted to them. It is sort of a perma-topic. I think you are right that people tend to expect others to use the same values that they use in choosing a mate - I value intelligence, wit, kindness, etc. Arrangement of body parts is of small consequence to me. It puzzles me, I suppose, when others value different things. Thanks! 
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Yep "nice guys" a whole nother can of worms & we have CASES of them cans on JSH!
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Edited by
dolphin14
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Sat 03/22/08 06:26 PM
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I think men and women do the same thing; they pick their mates based on nothing more than physical attractiveness. Then they wonder why their girlfriends cheat, or their men are not home. I think the choice of a mate should be based on a person's character, their intelligence, their kindess. Why does it matter what they look like? Looks change over time anyway. So what difference does it really make? I never understood that and I guess I never will. Nice looking people are nice to look at. Don't most people require more than that? I agree with u about us picking our mates based on physical attractiveness... I have to be attracted to who i am with and anyone that says differently are taking good drugs.. I will be honest i am not attracted to heavier men why? not just becuz of physical reasons but also becuz that shows some of their personality...Usually heavier men are about sitting on the couch drinkin and eating and that is not what i want in a man is that superficial? NO, it is becuz i am active and stay in shape and i would like to find the same type of person. I don't want to be in a relationship with someone that would rather sit on the couch then do things with me.... |
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I like worms....
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guess a large can of worms is better then bunches of cans of Whoop Ass
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Cat you know this will eventually lead to that...
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probably...then I can sit back and sell tickets to the match...if ya think about it, we all have ring side seats.
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attatching a strap to a box so I can sell snacks
"worms! getcha worms here" !
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"Attraction isn't a choice" - David DeAngelo Men are attracted to women differently than women are attracted to men. The problem is, people tend to assume attraction works the same for the opposite sex as it does for them. It doesn't. Men are generally attracted to women with a high replication value (appearance) while women tend to be attracted towards men with a high survival value. I am curious why evolution would hardwire men to be attracted to skinny women, when heavier women would withstand famine better, and would have more estrogen for reproductive purposes. I would like to see the research on that. I understand that they are drawn by appearance, but who said that the most favorable appearance had to be a thin woman? According to scientist, men are biologically attracted to women who have fat deposits in certain places (for child-bearing purposes) and women with symmetry in their faces (a preference we all have). Plenty of societies and cultures find curvy, heavier women attractive, and societal preferences wax and wane. Case in point: the "perfect woman" during Michelangelo's time would be considered fat now. Twiggy, so popular 40 years ago or so, would be too skinny for many of today's men. Some cultures see a hefty wife as indicative of the husband's wealth; if she's rotund, it means he can afford to pay for someone to do her chores. To say men are "biologically" attracted to one sort of woman or another is scientifically not exactly true.... Couldn't have said it better myself. Being an art student, heavy and a nude modle, I get asked out all the time, and it aint cuz Im nude. It cuz Im nude and beautiful. Heavy has nothing to do with it. Times change and so do people. We are one of the fattest nations in the world and everyone wants what they cant have. Silly. I have no "type" I have been with heavy and skinny, no matter, they were good people. Funny how most of the guys are saying they don't mind a heavy lady, and getting smaked down no matter what they say. Intelligence? science? Mentality? Who gives a rats ass, the result is still the same. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and no beer jokes. Come on.........everyone has thier personal choice and as long as it doesnt hurt anyone, i.e. being rude or offensive, who cares. There is someone for everyone, at least I hope so, but I know one things for sure. I don't have to have a man to tell me Im beautiful. Im confortable in my own skin, and anyone who would say otherwise is full of ****. Period. |
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