Topic: Ridalin....or the fear of god?
yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:49 PM

Ohhhhh, I am going to stir the pot here.....
What about the diagnosis of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
Has anyone been exposed to that....and the plethera of drugs that go along with the diagnosis? explode


has nothing to do with the topic

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:50 PM

Ok now its my turn to say how I feel!
I have 2 boys, one with ADD and one with ADHD, so I know all about this topic. I am one of the lovely people who decided to medicate my children. I had a choice and medication was my choice!
I took both my boys to 2 doctors, a psychiatrist plus my brother is a psychologist. EVERY single one of them stated that each one of my boys could be a "poster child" for this disease. If you have never been around a child that actually has this, then truly..you have no clue!
Both my boys stated that they felt like they had a million thoughts spinning in their brain when they were not on the meds.
Could you imagine feeling that way, I sure couldn't. They said it made them feel like they were going crazy. BUT after we found the correct medicine for them, you wouldn't believe the difference.
Both my boys are great students. My oldest son is now in college and is already certified in Microsoft. Both boys are very smart and lead a very calm life now.
As far as S.S./Disability goes, I have no clue about that. I feel like this, if your child is found disabled, then obviously theres a reason for them collecting the money..more power to you! My youngest son has 4 disorders and we do not get any type of benefits for him. I think if people complain about other people getting disability, you have way to much time on your hands!!


I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch

MrMxyzptlk's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:52 PM

Ohhhhh, I am going to stir the pot here.....
What about the diagnosis of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
Has anyone been exposed to that....and the plethera of drugs that go along with the diagnosis? explode

indifferent No clue, it's not one that I've ever had a dealing with, the floor is yours!:tongue:

unsure's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:55 PM


Ok now its my turn to say how I feel!
I have 2 boys, one with ADD and one with ADHD, so I know all about this topic. I am one of the lovely people who decided to medicate my children. I had a choice and medication was my choice!
I took both my boys to 2 doctors, a psychiatrist plus my brother is a psychologist. EVERY single one of them stated that each one of my boys could be a "poster child" for this disease. If you have never been around a child that actually has this, then truly..you have no clue!
Both my boys stated that they felt like they had a million thoughts spinning in their brain when they were not on the meds.
Could you imagine feeling that way, I sure couldn't. They said it made them feel like they were going crazy. BUT after we found the correct medicine for them, you wouldn't believe the difference.
Both my boys are great students. My oldest son is now in college and is already certified in Microsoft. Both boys are very smart and lead a very calm life now.
As far as S.S./Disability goes, I have no clue about that. I feel like this, if your child is found disabled, then obviously theres a reason for them collecting the money..more power to you! My youngest son has 4 disorders and we do not get any type of benefits for him. I think if people complain about other people getting disability, you have way to much time on your hands!!


I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch

The dr told me to buy my boys a game boy...he said that would be the best thing for them! I guess because its always moving just like their mind. I think thats why they like gaming so much..its fast and their mind just keeps going.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:58 PM



Ok now its my turn to say how I feel!
I have 2 boys, one with ADD and one with ADHD, so I know all about this topic. I am one of the lovely people who decided to medicate my children. I had a choice and medication was my choice!
I took both my boys to 2 doctors, a psychiatrist plus my brother is a psychologist. EVERY single one of them stated that each one of my boys could be a "poster child" for this disease. If you have never been around a child that actually has this, then truly..you have no clue!
Both my boys stated that they felt like they had a million thoughts spinning in their brain when they were not on the meds.
Could you imagine feeling that way, I sure couldn't. They said it made them feel like they were going crazy. BUT after we found the correct medicine for them, you wouldn't believe the difference.
Both my boys are great students. My oldest son is now in college and is already certified in Microsoft. Both boys are very smart and lead a very calm life now.
As far as S.S./Disability goes, I have no clue about that. I feel like this, if your child is found disabled, then obviously theres a reason for them collecting the money..more power to you! My youngest son has 4 disorders and we do not get any type of benefits for him. I think if people complain about other people getting disability, you have way to much time on your hands!!


I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch

The dr told me to buy my boys a game boy...he said that would be the best thing for them! I guess because its always moving just like their mind. I think thats why they like gaming so much..its fast and their mind just keeps going.


my son is good at those as well. I think I understand what you are saying. I wasn't told to do that though. Those games move fast and they can think fast with it.

lulu24's photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:59 PM

I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch


my mother is a child psychologist, and she does quite a bit of teacher trainings. one of the things that she does when teaching about ADHD is quite eye-opening.

first, she gives each person a piece of foil and has them chew on it. then, she has each person take their dominant hand and restrain it behind their back. placing a pencil in the non-dominant hand, she then asks that you write the pledge of allegiance, every FIFTH WORD. she tells you that you have sixty seconds to complete it...and presses her stop-watch.

as soon as you begin, she plays static at full-blast while turning the lights on and off randomly and talking loudly to whoever will listen.

at the end, she tells you that that is what it's like trying to work in a classroom while having ADHD.

no photo
Thu 03/20/08 04:59 PM


Ohhhhh, I am going to stir the pot here.....
What about the diagnosis of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
Has anyone been exposed to that....and the plethera of drugs that go along with the diagnosis? explode

indifferent No clue, it's not one that I've ever had a dealing with, the floor is yours!:tongue:


To yellowrose....there is the definite possibility that ADHD could be a result of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome....

There are no simple answers to your questions about Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS).

First of all, the Syndrome is the result of the fetus being exposed to alcohol in utero by the mother's abuse of alcohol during pregnancy. FAS itself is diagnosed, with difficulty, only if the alcohol exposure is known.

It is a syndrome that has a wide range of manifestations. Some children have very few problems while others have severe deficits, such as facial abnormalities, low IQ, learning disabilities, ADHD (attention deficit hyperativity disorder)-like symptoms. The diagnosis must be made by an experienced clinician.

No treatments are universally effective for FAS or the variants on the continuum which includes the designation, Fetal Alcohol Effects.

I know of no specifically designed school programs that address Fetal Alcohol syndrome, exclusive to other types of learning and behavior problems. Most school programs for special needs are problem-focused, such as BD (Behavioral Disorder) programs for children with behavior problems, or special education programs that focus on the learning disabilities. Programs and medical interventions need to be tailored to the child's needs.

Counseling and therapy services are available at the Alegent Health Psychiatric Associates. We have many convenient locations. Call 402-717-HOPE (4673) for more information.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:00 PM


I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch


my mother is a child psychologist, and she does quite a bit of teacher trainings. one of the things that she does when teaching about ADHD is quite eye-opening.

first, she gives each person a piece of foil and has them chew on it. then, she has each person take their dominant hand and restrain it behind their back. placing a pencil in the non-dominant hand, she then asks that you write the pledge of allegiance, every FIFTH WORD. she tells you that you have sixty seconds to complete it...and presses her stop-watch.

as soon as you begin, she plays static at full-blast while turning the lights on and off randomly and talking loudly to whoever will listen.

at the end, she tells you that that is what it's like trying to work in a classroom while having ADHD.


laugh that is a great example. Never thought of that. helps others to understand I'm sure

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:01 PM
flowerforyou I am soooooooooooo glad that I don't have kids so I dont have to worry about stuff like this.flowerforyou

unsure's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:01 PM


I like the commercial were they compare it to someone flipping channels on a tv constantly and not leaving it on one long enough to grasp the show. It's like someone flcikering a light switch


my mother is a child psychologist, and she does quite a bit of teacher trainings. one of the things that she does when teaching about ADHD is quite eye-opening.

first, she gives each person a piece of foil and has them chew on it. then, she has each person take their dominant hand and restrain it behind their back. placing a pencil in the non-dominant hand, she then asks that you write the pledge of allegiance, every FIFTH WORD. she tells you that you have sixty seconds to complete it...and presses her stop-watch.

as soon as you begin, she plays static at full-blast while turning the lights on and off randomly and talking loudly to whoever will listen.

at the end, she tells you that that is what it's like trying to work in a classroom while having ADHD.

WOW...can you even imagine? All I can say is THANK GOD for meds!

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:01 PM
fetal alcohol syndrome COULD be a cause..I would not deny that since I don't know. I know my son doesn't have it because of that. So I'm sure that may be one of the causes

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:04 PM
This is one site had to say about the causes...just FYI

The exact cause of ADHD has not been determined, however the condition is thought to have a genetic and biological component. ADHD tends to occur among family members. Many research studies currently focus on identifying which genes, or combination of genes, may cause a person to be more susceptible to ADHD. Physical differences in parts of the brain are also thought to be linked to ADHD.

http://add.about.com/od/adhdthebasics/a/ADHDbasics.htm

no photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:05 PM
Simply brought it into the fray as certain individuals tend to deny parts of their past. No offense intended...but it needed to be put out there. flowerforyou

lulu24's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:06 PM
there are several interesting correlations with ADHD. parental drug usage, even years before conception, for instance...


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:09 PM
I can say that I actually never had a drink before my son was born and no drugs.

those could be factors...but still doesn't apply to my son

no photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:14 PM
Sidebar: Health Professionals are willing to jump on any band wagon that they can to come up with a diagnosis of ADHD and push the pills.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:19 PM
true...but they can come up with them for pretty much anything these days.

No one knows for sure what causes it. Many factors can apply.

But it's not a behavioral issue. It can lead to one, but others without ADD/ADHD can have behavioral problems as well.

It is a medical condition

Here is another link if you want for different causes

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/adhd_add_causes.htm

malibu23wi's photo
Thu 03/20/08 05:51 PM

I always thought Ritalin was nothing more than sugar...and doctors just say it helps so they can make money, which in actuality the true affects of Ritalin on the mind and body is controlled by the person taking it (as with all medications). Just slap your kid over the head when they act out and get on with it, no need to pay money for a "magic" pill.


do you really think abuse is the answer?? did being slapped upside the head ever stop you from doing something?? no!! Ritalin is not just sugar, it is a stimulant...my son is 7...and has been on the Daytrana Patch for about 6 months now...his behavior is 180 degree difference from how he is without it...he is one that needed it...and he is genetically predisposed to having it..both his father and uncle have it, both are still on meds for it too...or should be. it is night and day when he doesn't wear the patch...even missing one day has some serious changes in his behavior and ability to control himself...

yes, it is can be misdiagnosed..but for some it's very very much a serious problem...so please don't make light of the disorder and don't think that it's not real!!

Queene123's photo
Thu 03/20/08 06:02 PM
when my son was younger the school wanted my son on it, and we said no, he just a active child, but he didnt have adhd
a friend of mine when her son was little he had issue and they determined that he was adhd and he was the medication for awhile, and one time before she got him on the meds she was at a friends house, and i had just left there, as to find out she called the police for he was hitting her, (this child was 4yrs old) and beating on his mom and she called the police.. hes now 16yrs old but i dont know how hes doing now as i havent talked or seen her for yrs

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/20/08 06:05 PM

when my son was younger the school wanted my son on it, and we said no, he just a active child, but he didnt have adhd
a friend of mine when her son was little he had issue and they determined that he was adhd and he was the medication for awhile, and one time before she got him on the meds she was at a friends house, and i had just left there, as to find out she called the police for he was hitting her, (this child was 4yrs old) and beating on his mom and she called the police.. hes now 16yrs old but i dont know how hes doing now as i havent talked or seen her for yrs


Not trying to argue but I'm confused at your point