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Thu 03/13/08 07:14 AM

write to my email if you have any valid points, and i will detach myself from your pant leg, as your leg will soon become chewed off! flowerforyou


Engage you in private? About what, exactly? How is that going to be an efficient use of my time, even if there was something I could possibly accomplish?
Speaking of emails though.. I have received more then a few from readers who are wondering and theorizing about what your plight might be. Personally? I don't think you are suffering from much of what I have read in those emails.
I think you are exhibiting some laziness in attempting to communicate some concepts that are not fully thought out.

All pretty harmless, for the most part.


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Thu 03/13/08 09:31 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 03/13/08 09:32 AM

If I remember prior posts, I can say Jistme has never said he is good or bad, evil or nice... he simply states his views.

DavidBen1~ My position has always been is to try and communicate to you that your posts do not make sense. They seem to make sense to you, which is all well and good. But whatever your contributions are... they are lost in translation. Sure, there is some teasing going on in here. The purpose of that is to point out that we do not understand you.

Some of your posts are easier to read than others. But most are so difficult to understand that we give up. Do you want to get your message across?

I do not believe I'm alone in this. This is and has always been a very sincere request, that you try and write for the reader. In all honesty--- your posts read as though you simply let whatever your thoughts are come out as they come to you. And I do not understand what you are trying to say, 90% of the time. This is not hate, or an insult, it has always been constructive.



why do you speak in we's when you are one....

why do you speak for jistmes when he has his own voice

not a one that post in reply to me do so but because they like to, so what be the problem with people doing what they like....

my motive for any post be different than yours, as you write your post for the approval and vailidation that come from others, as you so admit, for the reader, and i write my post inteneded to provoke thought, to find truth, and find NEW common ground between all.....

not everything i write is to everybody, just as everything you write, and each thing i write has more than one purpose, and is why some you understand and some you do not.....if anythings greatest wish is to preserve dignity or ego or pride, than will not the truth always remain hidden.

this would mean there is REAL truth, and be for each to decide what that is.....i have full confidence in the things that i write and that they serve their intended purpose......funny that i get emails from around the world and from many many here that say they believe what i say to be the truth, and makes very good and logical sense, but then one have to be looking and not hiding from truth to find it....

your sincere effort is seen and appreciated but not needed


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


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Thu 03/13/08 09:36 AM
Edited by lilith401 on Thu 03/13/08 09:36 AM

why do you speak in we's when you are one....
why do you speak for jistmes when he has his own voice

I do not speak for jistme. I mean "we" in that all who posted here previously did not understand you. Jist can speak for himself, as can everyone else.

my motive for any post be different than yours, as you write your post for the approval and vailidation that come from others, as you so admit, for the reader, and i write my post inteneded to provoke thought, to find truth, and find NEW common ground between all.....

Exactly my point. I write not for approval, but so that the reader, the person reading, can actually understand it.

You cannot provoke thought if no one can understand you.

i have full confidence in the things that i write and that they serve their intended purpose......funny that i get emails from around the world and from many many here that say they believe what i say to be the truth, and makes very good and logical sense


If you say so.

your sincere effort is seen and appreciated but not needed

If you say so.

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Thu 03/13/08 09:40 AM


write to my email if you have any valid points, and i will detach myself from your pant leg, as your leg will soon become chewed off! flowerforyou


Engage you in private? About what, exactly? How is that going to be an efficient use of my time, even if there was something I could possibly accomplish?
Speaking of emails though.. I have received more then a few from readers who are wondering and theorizing about what your plight might be. Personally? I don't think you are suffering from much of what I have read in those emails.
I think you are exhibiting some laziness in attempting to communicate some concepts that are not fully thought out.

All pretty harmless, for the most part.




perhaps even beneficial.....truth is my only plight, and to try to determine my motive based on each their own is flawed, as none are me and i none of them, but each have a heart that know truth, and you speak your's here, and i respect you greatly for it.....

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Thu 03/13/08 09:58 AM
lillith.....wow, i can see immediately when you speak your mind and not your heart......sad

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Thu 03/13/08 10:00 AM



write to my email if you have any valid points, and i will detach myself from your pant leg, as your leg will soon become chewed off! flowerforyou


Engage you in private? About what, exactly? How is that going to be an efficient use of my time, even if there was something I could possibly accomplish?
Speaking of emails though.. I have received more then a few from readers who are wondering and theorizing about what your plight might be. Personally? I don't think you are suffering from much of what I have read in those emails.
I think you are exhibiting some laziness in attempting to communicate some concepts that are not fully thought out.

All pretty harmless, for the most part.




perhaps even beneficial.....truth is my only plight, and to try to determine my motive based on each their own is flawed, as none are me and i none of them, but each have a heart that know truth, and you speak your's here, and i respect you greatly for it.....


OMG... I read this without seeing the pic, and thought it was lillith being funny.....

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Thu 03/13/08 10:03 AM

lillith.....wow, i can see immediately when you speak your mind and not your heart......sad


My message has not changed. Not one iota. I simply was less "convoluted" that time.

I do not think you write for people to understand you. More importantly, you seem not to care that others can't. And disagree, by saying you get mails from all over the world touting your clarity and insight.

I state your posts are not clear. You state you do not care and that I am the only one who cannot understand.

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Thu 03/13/08 10:14 AM

You state you do not care and that I am the only one who cannot understand.

I know I am gonna temporarily lose the respect I had somehow apparently gained from my previous post.. It tends to come and go as this thread progresses... but...

Those people emailing David have not seemed to show themselves here. Whether or not that is indicative of much of anything is tough to say.

However...
In an effort to impress him with as few words as possible, and hopefully cause him to reconsider writing for those of us who really do want to have a cohesive conversation with him...

How many are confused, baffled and have headaches who try to read his posts?

A show of hands please (or a little orange guy holding up a cup, in this casedrinker ).
Who understands him.. Thinks he is clear and concise? A flower will do. flowerforyou

I will refrain for the time being.

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Thu 03/13/08 10:41 AM
drinker

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Thu 03/13/08 10:52 AM
drinker find hard to follow his posts and responses drinker

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Thu 03/13/08 10:55 AM
can yer all stop using big words and complicated sentences...its hurting my brain:tongue: laugh

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Thu 03/13/08 11:02 AM

can yer all stop using big words and complicated sentences...its hurting my brain:tongue: laugh


Debbie~~ It's cup for hard to understand, and flower for clear and concise.

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Thu 03/13/08 11:05 AM
see how am i to understand that lol...ok wheres my dictionary actually nah think my cup has over flow.......ethlaugh

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Thu 03/13/08 11:08 AM

see how am i to understand that lol...ok wheres my dictionary actually nah think my cup has over flow.......ethlaugh


Do you find the OP's posts hard to understand? If yes= drinker

If no= flowerforyou

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Thu 03/13/08 11:10 AM


lillith.....wow, i can see immediately when you speak your mind and not your heart......sad


My message has not changed. Not one iota. I simply was less "convoluted" that time.

I do not think you write for people to understand you. More importantly, you seem not to care that others can't. And disagree, by saying you get mails from all over the world touting your clarity and insight.

I state your posts are not clear. You state you do not care and that I am the only one who cannot understand.


laugh flowerforyou laugh flowerforyou laugh flowerforyou

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Thu 03/13/08 11:22 AM
no.

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Thu 03/13/08 12:45 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 03/13/08 12:50 PM
i said respected that 1 post jist...laugh so that is twice now total you have swallowed your pride and become more man than women.......keep going and you will soon grow up and stop providing a yourself as a bone for me to sharpen my teeth on....laugh laugh laugh like kids you stand on my thread and throw rocks at me whom you consider the giant, so leave me alone then on my own thread....i wish to speak to adults that do not live thru emotion as toddlers, and keep all distracted by the noice of sucking upon bottles of regurgitated untruths, that are the same told since the beginning of time......let the babies go to their cribs so the adults will come out, as they do not like the sound of crying babies, and let the real communication be commenced........many here have it in thier hearts, but have never spoken as of yet.....do you not know that what you speak is what you become....speak truth it will become you, speak untruth, just the same, so get off my cloud.....bigsmile bigsmile you told me to start my own thread, and so i have listented to you, to satisfy ears that never hear, and see, you still are not satisfied, as in reality, you only wish to be appeased by everything around you, and look at ALL thru these eyes.....but i live not to appease anyone, so thats a GREAT idea to take a vote, and can't believe you have actually invited me to such.........so lets make it a real event with chips and snacks for the spectators and maybe beer for all old enought to like it, and we need an unbiased panel of expert judges......jist already knows he's been beaten so he can sit out as certified pansies get not to play.....you drop your sword way to much hiding behind the lil ladies....so I START THE THREAD, AND YOU EACH BRING YOUR HATE AND TRY TO KNOCK ME OFF....SOUNDS LIKE FUN TO ME, LOL.....OK, SO MY CHALLENGE BE I BET THAT I CAN MAKE EVERYTHING THAT REPLY TO MY POST HAVE THE SAME ANSWERS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE POST, AS ALL RESPONSES WILL BE EITHER Y OR N, WHICH EVER IS PREDETERMINED, UP FRONT, AND ALSO THE POST TIME BE FOR A SET AMOUNT, SAY I HOUR.....ANYTHING THAT ANSWER UNTRUE SHALL RECIEVE WHATEVER IT ANSWER UNTRUE TO, SO ALL MAY KNOW TRUTH.....LETS SEE WHO REALLY HAS THE ANSWERS THEY ARE WILLING TO STAND FOR, AND SEE WHO CAN RESIST THE REAL TRUTH.......A TRUTH DUEL OR GAME JUST AS THE SHOW, BUT THIS IS BETTER, THE REAL THING ACTUALLY, AS NOTHING CAN MAKE ALL MEN AGREE TO THE SAME ANSWER BUT REAL TRUTH, SO LETS SEE WHAT YA GOT.........there, nothing like a harmless well orgainzed chess match of wits, if you will, to really shake things up a bit.....that be my challenge to you windbags that speak as children.....whatdoya say.....sounds like a fine proposal to me...drinker drinker drinker

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Thu 03/13/08 12:48 PM
yawn

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Thu 03/13/08 01:01 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 03/13/08 01:11 PM
that one little "no" recorded have more courage and power and honor than you have ever had. jistme. sad


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