I also want to add this also:

Big Bang Theory - The Premise

The Big Bang theory is an effort to explain what happened at the very beginning of our universe. Discoveries in astronomy and physics have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that our universe did in fact have a beginning. Prior to that moment there was nothing; during and after that moment there was something: our universe. The big bang theory is an effort to explain what happened during and after that moment.

According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density (a mathematical concept which truly boggles the mind). These zones of infinite density are called "singularities." Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.

After its initial appearance, it apparently inflated (the "Big Bang"), expanded and cooled, going from very, very small and very, very hot, to the size and temperature of our current universe. It continues to expand and cool to this day and we are inside of it: incredible creatures living on a unique planet, circling a beautiful star clustered together with several hundred billion other stars in a galaxy soaring through the cosmos, all of which is inside of an expanding universe that began as an infinitesimal singularity which appeared out of nowhere for reasons unknown. This is the Big Bang theory.

Perhaps we will never find the answer because we cannot record back 13.7 billion years!

What is your problem? And personally attacking users is against the policy, I hope the moderators see this. I won't stoop to your level, but I am quoting so that the moderators can see your personal attack against me.

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your funny Why dont you ShowMe your face ?

i think its pretty self explanatory.
...but they are a peaceful religion, right?

Amen my brother.

You say that for many the idea of the ancient gods being another race from the stars is a fantasy, but it makes more sense and has more evidence supporting it than the Bible or any other religion on earth.

All religions that preach hatred and violence against other "gods" are but the remnants of the battles fought in the past between the fake "gods" that mined the earth.

To worship and follow any of these gods is fantasy. Humans still killing each other over religion is just plain ignorant. The person who posted this thread asking this question in the first place, I question his motives. Is he planting a seed for bigotry to be born in the thread and pretending to be innocent and "open minded?" I think so.

What are his motives? What is his agenda? What are his beliefs? Who is he and why does he have nothing in his profile?

I think he is planting a seed of hatred against a certain group. In every religion or scripture you will find the violence of men and the fake gods of old. They are still at work setting human against human. He may even be one of them, or one of their drones.

JB

Dude what is your problem??? You are so off base with the original post of this thread... Seems to me your nothing more then a big joke yourself.

Thu 03/13/08 04:13 PM
Dude what is your problem??? You are so off base with the original post of this thread... Seems to me your nothing more then a big joke yourself.

to me it seems pretty straight forward they do not believe anyone who does not believe the same as them should die.

Can we please stick to the reason for the post...

You are the sweetest.

Let him ramble , he has nothing intelligent to contribute, all he can do is kiss mods ass and drop frequent one liners. If the mods haven't noticed all he does is hijack threads with his one liners. Others may think you are funny, but you are nothing but a dumbass, who does not have the ability to debate anything intelligently.
Or another reason might be you are a muslim and you got offended by it. As far as I am concerned even if you are a muslim, this a a reasonable question. Instead of attacking me, why don't you explain what it really means. Are you ashamed of your own religion, that you have to hide your religion.
The only reason you are not banned is because you kiss mods asses, yes, that is right. You dumb mother****er. I would love to show you myself, so that I can slap you like you the ***** you are.
Oh mods yes ban me and show there are two rules to this site, one for you ass kissing friends and one for new members.

Freedom of specch is a beautiful thing. I was thinking some of the same things myself. It is not a requirement of the sight to have a photo up so don't worry about it.

That is nothing new, all religions are that way. The more civilized ones pretend they are not, but they are still at war with others who oppose their faith. It has nothing to do with the real God.

we are all in a giant ant farm at the mercy of a spiteful god who threatens to shake us to death at every turn..we're doomed!!


As for the original post,sounds like a justifiable homicide defense.

No, I think we are living in holodeck and if anyone turns it off the entire universe as we know it... disappears. For all we know we could be just a mass of brain gue wired up and plugged into a computerized virtual reality machine.

Oh no, that's just me and my computer talking... NEVER MIND.

or we are all just a dream....

Concerning the question that this thread was intended:

Can some Muslim or learned person, please, explain what this really means.

Answer: I am not a Muslim or learned person with the Koran that is why I said as the first answerer that you should ask a cleric of this order.

I am kinda disturbed by it, or it has a different meaning to it.

“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. This is because they acted adversely to Allah and his messenger” (Koran 8:12)

Answer: At the time the book was written it had nothing to do with other faiths. I believe it was most likely written for those clans in the region or area (like shiite and sunnis)that had problems amongst themselves with different understandings and beliefs of their own religion splitting clans up in this way. Today they practice the same religion yet have different rules in the book, which creates problems of order for their faith. Since their faith is as important as their government in their countries.


He said: Just to let you all know, I am open minded and read religious books on all kinds of religion and I see some good in them and some bad. Mostly people mis interpret them to benefit themselves.

Answer:It is good to be open minded and to see the good and bad in each religious book. For some a religious book is very important part of their life that enables them to be the person they are. It allows them to wake up in the morning secure, motivated, and sure to life another day.

Repeat: The Koran was written at a time when many tribes (Muslims) were fighting each other. There were many civilizations who were attacking Muslim beliefs and even other Muslim beliefs that still fight each other. Look at the Sunnis and Shiites. I am no cleric in the word of the Koran, but I (THINK OR ASSUME) this part from the Koran was intended not for nonbelievers but for rivals in the land at the time. I am not sure, but I hope this answers your question.

To Jeanbeanie: Now concerning Aliens and what Archaelogist's have found I can very much relate to some of the hyoglephics discovered at the time. How solar systems of 10 planets were drawn and how they created the pyramids in such exact diagonals to the sun. Why the pyramid was used not only in Egypt but in other parts of the world. It has fascinated me for a long time and have been reading up on it for some time now. There are many possibilities beyond our recognition that we could take in consideration. I have participated in a college course once on how some claim to have found Jesus's casket and his stories of the days he spent time in Egypt learning other philosophies. It is clear to me that Christianity is a mixture of different older religions intergrated into the bible as of Christianity is the reason why the Koran exists in a later date.

The stories change for the purpose of the people at the time to maintain order.

Of course what I say is probably ridiculous to many, yet in the long run we can only assume for religion is a never ending story of many possibilities.

Here is a excerpt of someone who is studying intensively the possibilities of Jesus. Now for those who put in all their heart that Jesus didn't write the bible, yet his followers, and that he is the symbol of god this wouldn't make sense to you and I am aware of that. No need to bash me with your bible. This is a excerpt for those who study history and really want to track down what is found at the time.

A claiming by a fellow college student:

When Jesus and Mary Magdalene lived in Egypt, he learned of his Egyptian Pharaoh heritage and Bloodline.

The Exile of the Hebrews out of Egypt was not because they were slaves, but because they were important families whose Astrologers noted that the time of Taurus the Bull/Horus was ending, and the time of the Lamb/Ram/Aries had begun!

Jesus claimed he was the Son/Sun of God because he Was... of Pharaoh, who was GOD.

So the Israelites were of the Pharaoh lineages who were devoted followerers of Aries. Lamb of God, led by Moses, Egyptian Royalty.

Jesus, son of God, meant born of the Gods. The Egyptian Gods, to Bring forth an Arian nation.

Reply from another student who studies hyoglephics:

from evaluating the symbol found above opening of the tomb (determining if the tomb is the tomb of Jesus)I actually support your theory to some extent. The symbol is in the shape of a pyramid. The point of a pyramid symbolizes the highest point(being God).The Circle is eternal life under God...a common ancient Egyptian belief.