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15 Then He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn again, you will see greater abominations than these." 16 So He brought me into the inner court of Yahweh's house; and there, at the door of the temple of Yahweh, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east . 17 And He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah to commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence; then they have returned to provoke Me to anger. Indeed they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore I also will act in fury. My eye will not spare nor will I have pity; and though they cry in My ears with a loud voice, I will not hear them." Yahweh is calling this an abomination temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east . Also he says they put the BRANCH to thier nose? What does Yahweh mean by this? This is a very old custom. Taken out of Egypt. Where you get bunnies and eggs from. Why would you want to worship to something that is called an abomination? Blessings..Miles there is no mention whatsoever of Jesus or Easter here. look at the context to understand this passage better. there is no mention of Jesus or Easter in the OT. it predates them. |
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If the bible didn't state his name or the name satan then it would be different. Yet it does. So what do you think Miles is trying to point out? Do you think after reading what miles says that the Bible does not state what day the Sabbath is? The sabbath is a day of the week, not the day jesus was born. Today they usually consider Sunday to be the sabbath, but I believe it was originally Saturday. |
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5 Then He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn again, you will see greater abominations than these." 16 So He brought me into the inner court of Yahweh's house; and there, at the door of the temple of Yahweh, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east . 17 And He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah to commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence; then they have returned to provoke Me to anger. Indeed they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore I also will act in fury. My eye will not spare nor will I have pity; and though they cry in My ears with a loud voice, I will not hear them." Gates of Hell: THE DESCENT OF ISHTAR TO THE NETHERWORLD Ishtar from whom we derive Easter went through the seven gates of hell to find Tammuz so that he could play the magical flute and smell the incense. The fertility goddess caused all natural processes to fail until she was rescued. The women in Ezekiel 8 lamented for Tammuz while the men held an early Sun Rise Service right there at the Temple in Jerusalem. Ishtar is worshiped in musical praise each year in thousands of churches. Dagon is also related to Tammuz. Who the phillistines stole the Arc of the covenant and you can see hear what Yahweh thought about that. Or Did?..... 1 Sam 5:1-8 Then the Philistines took the ark of God and brought it from Ebenezer to Ashdod. 2 When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon and set it by Dagon . 3 And when the people of Ashdod arose early in the morning, there was Dagon , fallen on its face to the earth before the ark of the Lord. So they took Dagon and set it in its place again. 4 And when they arose early the next morning, there was Dagon , fallen on its face to the ground before the ark of the Lord. The head of Dagon and both the palms of its hands were broken off on the threshold; only Dagon's torso was left of it. 5 Therefore neither the priests of Dagon nor any who come into Dagon's house tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod to this day. 6 But the hand of the Lord was heavy on the people of Ashdod, and He ravaged them and struck them with tumors, both Ashdod and its territory. 7 And when the men of Ashdod saw how it was, they said, "The ark of the God of Israel must not remain with us, for His hand is harsh toward us and Dagon our god." 8 Therefore they sent and gathered to themselves all the lords of the Philistines, and said, "What shall we do with the ark of the God of Israel?" NKJV Even the Phillistines wanted nothing to do with this family as they could see the curse that would be on them if they brought in the arc besides Dagon thier.g-d. Yet we have went right back to doing the same thing that they did then and we say we have the favor of Yahweh on us.. Did the Phillistines? Do you think you can worship the g-d of the underworld who in the NT calls the Angel of light or the G-d of this world and think Yahweh pities you? I do not want to be harsh but this stuff a 10 year old can find if he looks. But the world turns a blind eye and chooses to believe a lie as Peter said than the truth. Tradition will not give you eternal life...Shalom...Miles |
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The original origin of the name Easter does not change the purpose that Christians today celebrate it. You can quote all the scripture you want and interpret it anyway you want, this wont change a thing. We are celebrating the resurrection of Jesus and his opening of the gates of heaven and if you say it is wrong or evil I could care less since I dont agree with you. Also a large portion of the christian community doesnt believe as you do either.
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15 Then He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn again, you will see greater abominations than these." 16 So He brought me into the inner court of Yahweh's house; and there, at the door of the temple of Yahweh, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east . 17 And He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah to commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence; then they have returned to provoke Me to anger. Indeed they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore I also will act in fury. My eye will not spare nor will I have pity; and though they cry in My ears with a loud voice, I will not hear them." Yahweh is calling this an abomination temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east . Also he says they put the BRANCH to thier nose? What does Yahweh mean by this? This is a very old custom. Taken out of Egypt. Where you get bunnies and eggs from. Why would you want to worship to something that is called an abomination? Blessings..Miles there is no mention whatsoever of Jesus or Easter here. look at the context to understand this passage better. there is no mention of Jesus or Easter in the OT. it predates them. You are correct. Not only that, but Easter is a corruption of Eostre, and has absolutely nothing to do with "East" as a cardinal point. Eostre is the etymological source of the word "estrogen". |
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Chazter
Thats fine. I can not change anybodies mind and it is not my job. I am to obey Yahweh and that means telling the truth. Some will fall on stony ground and some on good...Blessings...Miles |
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Pretty arrogant saying what you say is truth.
Since christmas and easter as we celebrate them today didnt exist until after Jesus, you wouldnt find anything on it in the bible anyway. |
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The original origin of the name Easter does not change the purpose that Christians today celebrate it. You can quote all the scripture you want and interpret it anyway you want, this wont change a thing. We are celebrating the resurrection of Jesus and his opening of the gates of heaven and if you say it is wrong or evil I could care less since I dont agree with you. Also a large portion of the christian community doesnt believe as you do either. You wouldn't call Jesus, Satan so the origin of a name and what name you use is obviously important. You look to the Bible and make that decision. Why is it so easy to call this easter when you know the true meaning behind the name? |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Sun 03/16/08 07:29 PM
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Well I guess it depends on whether you believe all the material that is out thier that says I am telling the truth. If you can prove our Messiah did not condemn Easter and Christmas. Then you are so sucked into believing that Santa Claus flys all over the world comming down your chimney and drinks your milk and cookies you left him. That is okay you can stay in your youthful world of make believe..Shalom...Miles
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Chazster
You can not find the writings of Martin Luther in the scriptures at all. Yet a religion was formed by his beliefs.I will say that I am glad that religion denounced thier founder lately. But he wrote a book called the Lie. Do a internet search and read what he had to say about the Jews. He made it illigal for jews to come together in the 1500's and had them burn't as demon an wrote that he expected the govt. to take control and extermanate these varments. Well guess what 400 years later Germany is almost all Luther and Hitler told the churches he was not doing anything but what thier founder wanted the Goverment to do. This is not fanticy. But if your church told you Jews were still Demons and you should kill as many as you could in the name of G-d? Would you say well we are honoring j-sus?....Miles |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Sun 03/16/08 08:34 PM
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Chazster You can not find the writings of Martin Luther in the scriptures at all. Yet a religion was formed by his beliefs.I will say that I am glad that religion denounced thier founder lately. But he wrote a book called the Lie. Do a internet search and read what he had to say about the Jews. He made it illigal for jews to come together in the 1500's and had them burn't as demon an wrote that he expected the govt. to take control and extermanate these varments. Well guess what 400 years later Germany is almost all Luther and Hitler told the churches he was not doing anything but what thier founder wanted the Goverment to do. This is not fanticy. But if your church told you Jews were still Demons and you should kill as many as you could in the name of G-d? Would you say well we are honoring j-sus?....Miles I dont do anything just because my church tells me. I make my own decisions. I dont see how this has anything to do with our conversation though. And since when do I have to believe in Santa if my church doesn't condemn Christmas. That makes no sense what so ever. 
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The original origin of the name Easter does not change the purpose that Christians today celebrate it. You can quote all the scripture you want and interpret it anyway you want, this wont change a thing. We are celebrating the resurrection of Jesus and his opening of the gates of heaven and if you say it is wrong or evil I could care less since I dont agree with you. Also a large portion of the christian community doesnt believe as you do either. You wouldn't call Jesus, Satan so the origin of a name and what name you use is obviously important. You look to the Bible and make that decision. Why is it so easy to call this easter when you know the true meaning behind the name? No I said I wouldnt call Jesus satan because the bible refers to satan and jesus by name. The bible says nothing about easter or christmas. |
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The original origin of the name Easter does not change the purpose that Christians today celebrate it. You can quote all the scripture you want and interpret it anyway you want, this wont change a thing. We are celebrating the resurrection of Jesus and his opening of the gates of heaven and if you say it is wrong or evil I could care less since I dont agree with you. Also a large portion of the christian community doesnt believe as you do either. You wouldn't call Jesus, Satan so the origin of a name and what name you use is obviously important. You look to the Bible and make that decision. Why is it so easy to call this easter when you know the true meaning behind the name? No I said I wouldnt call Jesus satan because the bible refers to satan and jesus by name. The bible says nothing about easter or christmas. Exactly, the fact that they are not mentioned at all speaks volumes I would say. Something it does make very clear though is that Sunday is not the Sabath. So that seems like a good place to start following what the Bible says. I also think it is probably easy to figure out the actual date of the birth of Jesus based on clues in the Bible. So I think that probably would also be something that the Bible tells you. |
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I am pretty sure Jesus doesn't care when you celebrate his birthday. He is not like a typical person. I believe that he would be happy that you celebrate it. I mean people think he was born closer to May right? Well if you feel like celebrating in May then go ahead. My family celebrates dec. 25th.
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what i said about Martin Luther was just an example of following blindly. The church changed easter for it is only in the bible because King James who ordered the scriptures to be translated into English. Made them put Easter in thier. The greek word for Passover is pasha. This word pasha is in the NT 29 times. 28 times as passover 1 time as Easter. Why is that I wonder?Miles
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I am pretty sure Jesus doesn't care when you celebrate his birthday. He is not like a typical person. I believe that he would be happy that you celebrate it. I mean people think he was born closer to May right? Well if you feel like celebrating in May then go ahead. My family celebrates dec. 25th. Why does he care what name you call him but not what day he was born on? In your own life which is more important, the day you were born, or your name? |
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In your own life which is more important, the day you were born, or your name? NEITHER 
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In your own life which is more important, the day you were born, or your name? NEITHER YIKES  If you didn't have a name that might be odd, however if you were never born you would never have a you.
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all i have to say is "the guy formerly known as s1owhand" and pick a number between 1 and 365...any number...
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Personally I like 7 of 10
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