Topic: Easter
Chazster's photo
Wed 03/12/08 09:14 PM

Is Easter Holy or Condemned by Yahweh?

Wouldn't that depend on your religion? I mean Yahweh is the Jewish God and that same god is the Christian God. If you are a Christian than I would think you would consider it holy.

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Thu 03/13/08 10:08 AM
Hi.. That is a common misconception of the Jews and us. Thier were 12 tribes. James starts out addressing them. Thier can not be 2 different g-ds in the same book you read from speaking of those who believe in the Bible. Thier was no NT in thier day. Converts were told to stay away from 4 things and the rest they would learn each sabbath as synagages were in every city. So when we read the scriptures most letters addressed a certain believers. To help them this was not spread through the population of all new believers. So the NT had no force other than what the Apostles preached traveling.Then they came together at jerusalem at times to discuss certain subjects and reason among each other about this. Most likely this was on the 3 times a year all males were to appear before Yahweh. Which would of been untill 67ad? when the temple was destroyed. That Yahshua called His Fathers House. So the two can not be seperated...Blessings ...Miles

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Thu 03/13/08 10:38 AM

Hi.. That is a common misconception of the Jews and us. Thier were 12 tribes. James starts out addressing them. Thier can not be 2 different g-ds in the same book you read from speaking of those who believe in the Bible. Thier was no NT in thier day. Converts were told to stay away from 4 things and the rest they would learn each sabbath as synagages were in every city. So when we read the scriptures most letters addressed a certain believers. To help them this was not spread through the population of all new believers. So the NT had no force other than what the Apostles preached traveling.Then they came together at jerusalem at times to discuss certain subjects and reason among each other about this. Most likely this was on the 3 times a year all males were to appear before Yahweh. Which would of been untill 67ad? when the temple was destroyed. That Yahshua called His Fathers House. So the two can not be seperated...Blessings ...Miles


I have no idea what you are referring to here.

Either way Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesus and easter Celebrates his resurrection. If you believe that he was born and that he rose from the dead then I don't understand why you would think that God, the father of Jesus, would be angry that we celebrated the birth and resurrection of his son.

That being said I believe both days are holy.


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Thu 03/13/08 04:45 PM
One thing it is not a man birth that matters but what that man has done with his life. Now Yahshua said to do this in rememberance of me. Which is the night before he died. Like if you were remembering someone you loved that you had spent the last night of thier life with. becomes very personal. To remember a friend for something he dispised. Would you be remembering him with honor? In the bible very few instances that I know of a birthday celebration being a positive thing. The 2 Jobs children were killed and John the baptist lost his head over herod promicing his niece shr could have anything up to 1/2 his kingdom. She chose Johns head on a platter. No way could the savior of been born in mid winter. But it was a celebration of pagan origins you can read about in any encyclopedia under..Christmas.. Easter will give you its origen also.. Rabbitt was making a joke.. But his joke is more truthful..Blessings...Miles

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Fri 03/14/08 07:43 AM
Edited by Chazster on Fri 03/14/08 07:44 AM

One thing it is not a man birth that matters but what that man has done with his life. Now Yahshua said to do this in rememberance of me. Which is the night before he died. Like if you were remembering someone you loved that you had spent the last night of thier life with. becomes very personal. To remember a friend for something he dispised. Would you be remembering him with honor? In the bible very few instances that I know of a birthday celebration being a positive thing. The 2 Jobs children were killed and John the baptist lost his head over herod promicing his niece shr could have anything up to 1/2 his kingdom. She chose Johns head on a platter. No way could the savior of been born in mid winter. But it was a celebration of pagan origins you can read about in any encyclopedia under..Christmas.. Easter will give you its origen also.. Rabbitt was making a joke.. But his joke is more truthful..Blessings...Miles


The celebration of the birth is not from pagan origins, only the date they chose to celebrate it. The chose Christmas to be Dec. 25 because of the winter solstice and it would be easier to convert pagans. The 3 wise men rejoiced at his birth and brought him gifts. That is what we do at Christmas. His death and resurrection and symbols of the new covenant between man and God. Why would you not celebrate that? His death and resurrection are what opened the gates of heaven.

As far as the last super is concerned, I know Catholics honor his wishes and remember it every mass. I am sure other religions have their own ways to remember it as well, but I am not familiar with them so wont speak on them.

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Fri 03/14/08 08:23 AM
here is Why...Miles


Jer 10:1-10

Hear the word which Yahweh speaks to you, O house of Israel.
2 Thus says Yahweh:
"Do not learn the way of the Gentiles;Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven,For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are futile;For one cuts a tree from the forest,The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. 4 They decorate it with silver and gold;They fasten it with nails and hammersSo that it will not topple. 5 They are upright, like a palm tree,And they cannot speak;They must be carried,Because they cannot go by themselves.Do not be afraid of them,For they cannot do evil,Nor can they do any good."
6 Inasmuch as there is none like You, O Yahweh(You are great, and Your name is great in might), 7 Who would not fear You, O King of the nations?For this is Your rightful due.For among all the wise men of the nations,And in all their kingdoms,There is none like You. 8 But they are altogether dull-hearted and foolish;A wooden idol is a worthless doctrine. 9 Silver is beaten into plates;It is brought from Tarshish,And gold from Uphaz,The work of the craftsmanAnd of the hands of the metalsmith;Blue and purple are their clothing;They are all the work of skillful men. 10 But Yahweh is the true Elohim;He is the living Master and the everlasting King.At His wrath the earth will tremble,And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation.
NKJV The scriptures themselves are a Testament that this was and will be.. And it is.. If you want to be considered an Idol worshipper. Then Learn what was commanded as Holy. Or I will post it for you. What was commanded was Lev. 23. These our messiah did. You yourself even say why you do it. Yet the bible throughout says you can only follow his ways. If he is who you truely believe in. I know learning and doing these things all your life makes it hard to believe.But do you also Believe Satan will come as an Angel of light to decieve the whole world? If you do then learn what the scriptures really say. John 5:43 is a prophecy of who is to come and how to know him.This is even harder to believe. It is all thier if we will stop doing tradition and commandments of men.This Yahshua spoke often about blasting the Pharasees for twaching the children the exact same thing. Commandments of men.. Is not Christmas and Easter Commandments of men?? Blessings...Miles

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Fri 03/14/08 04:17 PM
I think God doesn't look at whether we celebrate Easter or not. He looks at our heart. He looks at our worship, our discipleship, our fellowship, our ministry and our contribution to the church's mission. Whether we celebrate Easter or not, it should be done to God's glory.

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Fri 03/14/08 08:47 PM
the point here is I don't believe. You can not go against the word and say you are doing his will..These things are pointed out clearly. We refuse Yahweh's Holy Days he commanded and instead substitute it with what Yahweh says not to do and call it Holy.. Do not believe me believe the word...Miles

Chazster's photo
Fri 03/14/08 09:55 PM
http://www.orlutheran.com/html/jer10.html

That is in the context of celebrating a pagan holiday. We are not celebrating to an idol or any other false god. We are celebrating and praising God in our own way. You will not convince me that my celebration is a sin. You can feel free to misinterpret as you wish.

If you don't want to celebrate the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus I won't make you.

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Sat 03/15/08 07:01 AM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Sat 03/15/08 07:03 AM
The thing is if you do not think the Bible is the word of God that is to be taken literally on things like God making the Earth in 6 days or All the animals popping onto the earth completely formed. Then it makes sense to practice the holidays when your Church does. However if you are someone that thinks the Bible is the word for word, word of God I think you should be looking at what name God wants to be called and what day he wants to be worshiped and when his actual birth was.
I would think it would be more important to figure out those key pieces of the book then it would be to figure out if Noah had dinosaurs around him or not. Noah is just a man. No matter what he saw he is not God. If you really believe in the Book how could you possibly waste all your time on the other things when these basic things are unknown. How can you say all those things that are out in the secular world are more important to study then the actual basic pieces of your own religion.

Psalm 135
they have eyes, but do not see;
17they have ears, but do not hear,
nor is there any breath in their mouths.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 03/15/08 07:30 AM
Very good point rabbitt. You are better at short answer than I am. Blessings of Shalom...Miles

Chazster's photo
Sat 03/15/08 08:53 AM

The thing is if you do not think the Bible is the word of God that is to be taken literally on things like God making the Earth in 6 days or All the animals popping onto the earth completely formed. Then it makes sense to practice the holidays when your Church does. However if you are someone that thinks the Bible is the word for word, word of God I think you should be looking at what name God wants to be called and what day he wants to be worshiped and when his actual birth was.
I would think it would be more important to figure out those key pieces of the book then it would be to figure out if Noah had dinosaurs around him or not. Noah is just a man. No matter what he saw he is not God. If you really believe in the Book how could you possibly waste all your time on the other things when these basic things are unknown. How can you say all those things that are out in the secular world are more important to study then the actual basic pieces of your own religion.

Psalm 135
they have eyes, but do not see;
17they have ears, but do not hear,
nor is there any breath in their mouths.

So you are saying that the actual date of Jesus's birthday, is more important than the messages he taught. We will have to disagree on this point. Not that I am saying there is anything wrong with that. I am just saying I hold my priorities in a different order.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 03/15/08 09:35 AM
The message he taught was nothing new. It had been corrupted by the relgious Elite. he never said that. What was before was wrong. He called it Holy. The theme of the bible is an obediet child who will inherit all that his Father has. Your site is lying plain and simple. They know better if they have any knowledge of the scriptures at all. Yahshua said what can light have to do with darkness. All this is prophesied. He said if it were possible even the very elect would be decieved. Daniel prophecied of the time we are in. Peter said they would rather believe a lie than the truth.If you believe in the bible 4/5ths of the popualtion will be gone when Yahshua enters Jerusalem. I would say thier are alot of people who would rather follow tradition than what the word clearly says..Blessings...Miles

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Sat 03/15/08 11:00 AM
The god of the old testament has nothing whatsoever to say about Easter. This was developed hundreds of years later after Jesus as the new testament and christianity developed.

yawn

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 03/15/08 02:46 PM
yes i am afraid he does.

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Sat 03/15/08 04:54 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sat 03/15/08 04:56 PM
15 Then He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn again, you will see greater abominations than these." 16 So He brought me into the inner court of Yahweh's house; and there, at the door of the temple of Yahweh, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east .

17 And He said to me, "Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah to commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence; then they have returned to provoke Me to anger. Indeed they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore I also will act in fury. My eye will not spare nor will I have pity; and though they cry in My ears with a loud voice, I will not hear them."


Yahweh is calling this an abomination

temple of Yahweh and their faces toward the east , and they were worshiping the sun toward the east .
Also he says they put the BRANCH to thier nose? What does Yahweh mean by this?

This is a very old custom. Taken out of Egypt. Where you get bunnies and eggs from. Why would you want to worship to something that is called an abomination?

Blessings..Miles

Chazster's photo
Sat 03/15/08 07:11 PM
We don't worship bunnies or eggs at Easter. We just each chocolate versions of them. I mean if I have worshiped everything that I have eaten a chocolate version of.. well ... I would have worshiped too many false idols to count.

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Sat 03/15/08 07:29 PM

We don't worship bunnies or eggs at Easter. We just each chocolate versions of them. I mean if I have worshiped everything that I have eaten a chocolate version of.. well ... I would have worshiped too many false idols to count.


If it doesn't matter about when he was born, or died, or what day to worship him then do you think it would also be ok to change his name to Satan and follow all the biblical writings but just replace the word Jesus with Satan every where. You would still be following his teaching's and you would only be changing something so silly as a name.

Chazster's photo
Sat 03/15/08 08:51 PM
If the bible didn't state his name or the name satan then it would be different. Yet it does.

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Sat 03/15/08 08:54 PM

If the bible didn't state his name or the name satan then it would be different. Yet it does.



So what do you think Miles is trying to point out? Do you think after reading what miles says that the Bible does not state what day the Sabbath is?