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its all bull****
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 Yes! The people that test condoms on animals are sick!  
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Edited by
rtaylor74
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Thu 03/06/08 10:29 PM
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I drink your milkshake... I DRINK IT UP!!!
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I am what some might consider an animal activist. I promote animal rights although i am Not a member of P.E.T.A. (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals) because i have my own similar yet highly differant opinions. I've also been a vegetarian for 7 years now. Product testing is beyond wrong. It's completely inhumane, let alone the fact that alot of it isnt accurate considering humans have differant DNA, genetical compounds, and differant reactions than these animals. The fact that we're testing these things on poor animals is horrible considering the technology we have now. Most of these reactions can be predicted via computer models. Sad truth is people are savages. (personal opinion) I think it should stop. Open heart surgery Just about every leukeima medication ever made All current HIV medication Hell, anyone remember Pavlov's dog? Seriously, I like ya Pinky, but on the real? I'm an automation engineer who develops technology for pharmaceutical and bio companies. So I get to see up close and personal the methodology of developing medicine. And the facts are, as a programmer, I can tell you that in 2008 there is not a computer, nor a program complex enough to mimic the conditions in one biological system, let alone the human body. That statement is completely untrue. Wishful thinking. The fact is, animal testing has declined by about 60% over the past 20 or so years. And the VAST majority of animals used in testing are rats and mice, which ironically the average person would probably set a trap for, or try to poison if it were in their home. One last note, I also find it insanely ironic that the majority of people who are against animal testing are for stem cell research. Not saying you are, but hey... It's just a funny observation |
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I am what some might consider an animal activist. I promote animal rights although i am Not a member of P.E.T.A. (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals) because i have my own similar yet highly differant opinions. I've also been a vegetarian for 7 years now. Product testing is beyond wrong. It's completely inhumane, let alone the fact that alot of it isnt accurate considering humans have differant DNA, genetical compounds, and differant reactions than these animals. The fact that we're testing these things on poor animals is horrible considering the technology we have now. Most of these reactions can be predicted via computer models. Sad truth is people are savages. (personal opinion) I think it should stop. |
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I am what some might consider an animal activist. I promote animal rights although i am Not a member of P.E.T.A. (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals) because i have my own similar yet highly differant opinions. I've also been a vegetarian for 7 years now. Product testing is beyond wrong. It's completely inhumane, let alone the fact that alot of it isnt accurate considering humans have differant DNA, genetical compounds, and differant reactions than these animals. The fact that we're testing these things on poor animals is horrible considering the technology we have now. Most of these reactions can be predicted via computer models. Sad truth is people are savages. (personal opinion) I think it should stop. No cares about Vick. He is quite possibly the dumbest man on earth. how do go to jail and lose millions of guaranteed money over DOG FIGHTING? I mean, take away the moral issues and all that... But seriously. That guy is a shining example of the age old question... "HOW do you F**K that UP???" |
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I am what some might consider an animal activist. I promote animal rights although i am Not a member of P.E.T.A. (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals) because i have my own similar yet highly differant opinions. I've also been a vegetarian for 7 years now. Product testing is beyond wrong. It's completely inhumane, let alone the fact that alot of it isnt accurate considering humans have differant DNA, genetical compounds, and differant reactions than these animals. The fact that we're testing these things on poor animals is horrible considering the technology we have now. Most of these reactions can be predicted via computer models. Sad truth is people are savages. (personal opinion) I think it should stop. No cares about Vick. He is quite possibly the dumbest man on earth. how do go to jail and lose millions of guaranteed money over DOG FIGHTING? I mean, take away the moral issues and all that... But seriously. That guy is a shining example of the age old question... "HOW do you F**K that UP???" That's easy RT, he's an overpaid idiot. How can you be a star, in the spotlight all the time, and do something as iggnorrant as dogfighting? I think they shoulda took away his high school diploma, and sent him back to school for another 10 years. |
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Not for stemcell.
I also think that technology can further develope if given the opportunity, or the funds. Instead of wasting our money on a pointless war, or tearing down trees destroying the ear, we can spend more on trying to find cures for diseases, or anything like that. Now, are you only for animal testing to find cures for Cancer, diabetes, ect... or do you agree with cosmetic testing also? |
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Edited by
rtaylor74
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Thu 03/06/08 10:56 PM
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Not for stemcell. I also think that technology can further develope if given the opportunity, or the funds. Instead of wasting our money on a pointless war, or tearing down trees destroying the ear, we can spend more on trying to find cures for diseases, or anything like that. Now, are you only for animal testing to find cures for Cancer, diabetes, ect... or do you agree with cosmetic testing also? Very much so!! Personally, I honestly believe that there should be "non tested" and "tested" cosmetics that are offered. (After about 150000 people go blind or die, then I promise you the question will never be raised again.) I wish it were a perfect world, and we didn't have to such things, but it's not and we do. If you want progress (like the desire you just expressed) then there will be certain sacrifices. We don't live in a "shiny happy people" world. That being the case, you get to choose between certain things. All things invariably come down to two choices. Safe and Unsafe. Sometimes choosing the blue pill means that some of God's Fluffy Creatures have to take the red pill. There is no vast consipiracy to kill puppies and kittens. If that were the case, we never would have developed crash test dummies for car safety. We woulda just put stray dogs in Audis and slammed them into a wall instead. But that wouldn't be reasonable. Be reasonable. In cases where testing has to be carried out, very intelligent and educated people make decisions to keep you, me and our kids (when I ever have them) safe. When and if technology ever progresses to the point where it can mimic a human endocrine or pulmonary system (which will require the advancement of nanotechnology ohhh about 100 years away) then we can Free Willy. |
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yeah maybe we should test things on people 1st save the animals
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Why not test products on
Rapists , murderers ... human waste basically And try to save some animals just an idea 
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Why not test products on Rapists , murderers ... human waste basically And try to save some animals just an idea You wanna hold em down or stick em?
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Why not test products on Rapists , murderers ... human waste basically And try to save some animals just an idea You wanna hold em down or stick em? Whatever it takes bro 
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Edited by
mnhiker
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Thu 03/06/08 11:15 PM
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Not for stemcell. I also think that technology can further develope if given the opportunity, or the funds. Instead of wasting our money on a pointless war, or tearing down trees destroying the ear, we can spend more on trying to find cures for diseases, or anything like that. Now, are you only for animal testing to find cures for Cancer, diabetes, ect... or do you agree with cosmetic testing also? Very much so!! Personally, I honestly believe that there should be "non tested" and "tested" cosmetics that are offered. (After about 150000 people go blind or die, then I promise you the question will never be raised again.) I wish it were a perfect world, and we didn't have to such things, but it's not and we do. If you want progress (like the desire you just expressed) then there will be certain sacrifices. We don't live in a "shiny happy people" world. That being the case, you get to choose between certain things. All things invariably come down to two choices. Safe and Unsafe. Sometimes choosing the blue pill means that some of God's Fluffy Creatures have to take the red pill. There is no vast consipiracy to kill puppies and kittens. If that were the case, we never would have developed crash test dummies for car safety. We woulda just put stray dogs in Audis and slammed them into a wall instead. But that wouldn't be reasonable. Be reasonable. In cases where testing has to be carried out, very intelligent and educated people make decisions to keep you, me and our kids (when I ever have them) safe. When and if technology ever progresses to the point where it can mimic a human endocrine or pulmonary system (which will require the advancement of nanotechnology ohhh about 100 years away) then we can Free Willy. Maybe the people who are against cosmetic testing shouldn't wear lipstick, mascara or eye liner. |
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Not for stemcell. I also think that technology can further develope if given the opportunity, or the funds. Instead of wasting our money on a pointless war, or tearing down trees destroying the ear, we can spend more on trying to find cures for diseases, or anything like that. Now, are you only for animal testing to find cures for Cancer, diabetes, ect... or do you agree with cosmetic testing also? Very much so!! Personally, I honestly believe that there should be "non tested" and "tested" cosmetics that are offered. (After about 150000 people go blind or die, then I promise you the question will never be raised again.) I wish it were a perfect world, and we didn't have to such things, but it's not and we do. If you want progress (like the desire you just expressed) then there will be certain sacrifices. We don't live in a "shiny happy people" world. That being the case, you get to choose between certain things. All things invariably come down to two choices. Safe and Unsafe. Sometimes choosing the blue pill means that some of God's Fluffy Creatures have to take the red pill. There is no vast consipiracy to kill puppies and kittens. If that were the case, we never would have developed crash test dummies for car safety. We woulda just put stray dogs in Audis and slammed them into a wall instead. But that wouldn't be reasonable. Be reasonable. In cases where testing has to be carried out, very intelligent and educated people make decisions to keep you, me and our kids (when I ever have them) safe. When and if technology ever progresses to the point where it can mimic a human endocrine or pulmonary system (which will require the advancement of nanotechnology ohhh about 100 years away) then we can Free Willy. Maybe the people who are against cosmetic testing shouldn't wear lipstick, mascara or eye liner. It just annoys me when the Hollywood types get on TV and impressionable kids suck up whatever Richard Gere and Angelina Jolie say. Truth is, the same people who complain about fossil fuels and animal testing fly on 747s and take Tylenol. If everyone else is so damn smart, and scientists and engineers are so damn cruel and unusual, then come up with a realistic solution, and stop with the emotional responses to real world problems. Can ya tell this subject is personal to me?
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