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Topic: Gas it up
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Wed 03/05/08 08:13 AM




Too few refineries, the oil companies are not reinvesting refining & distribution, the are maxamizing profits for the short term. Is that the answer you are looking for?


Walmart buys in bulk to maximize profits, should we be mad at them as well? Companies are formed to make money, not lose it.


To play devil's advocate for the moment, I do agree that's the purpose of a business. However, ethically and morally speaking, what if their profits are good for them, but bad for society as a whole? Does that make it right?


Walmart goes into small rural areas, sells the competition outta business, then when its no longer profitable, they up and leave. That's pretty harsh right there.


But think about it, when I started driving, gas was a dollar a gallon. Now its 3 dollars a gallon 19 years later, with MANY new taxes added in. Cigarettes cost 75 cents a pack back then, and are over 4 bucks a pack now. Milk used to be 1.50 a gallon, now its over 3 bucks a gallon. Gas prices have moved up in price so much slower than almost any other good you can buy.

So should we be mad at Cigarette companies(well moreso than most commies do already) and dairy farmers?


I'm not mad at any company for doing what it's designed to do. However, there does come a point when they cross lines. But, as a whole, when a company's sole motivation is to make as much money as they can with absolutely no regard to the society in which it operates, then I believe that something should be done. We as individuals have a responsibility to others aside from ourselves and I believe that companies should as well.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:15 AM





Too few refineries, the oil companies are not reinvesting refining & distribution, the are maxamizing profits for the short term. Is that the answer you are looking for?


Walmart buys in bulk to maximize profits, should we be mad at them as well? Companies are formed to make money, not lose it.


To play devil's advocate for the moment, I do agree that's the purpose of a business. However, ethically and morally speaking, what if their profits are good for them, but bad for society as a whole? Does that make it right?


Walmart goes into small rural areas, sells the competition outta business, then when its no longer profitable, they up and leave. That's pretty harsh right there.


But think about it, when I started driving, gas was a dollar a gallon. Now its 3 dollars a gallon 19 years later, with MANY new taxes added in. Cigarettes cost 75 cents a pack back then, and are over 4 bucks a pack now. Milk used to be 1.50 a gallon, now its over 3 bucks a gallon. Gas prices have moved up in price so much slower than almost any other good you can buy.

So should we be mad at Cigarette companies(well moreso than most commies do already) and dairy farmers?


I'm not mad at any company for doing what it's designed to do. However, there does come a point when they cross lines. But, as a whole, when a company's sole motivation is to make as much money as they can with absolutely no regard to the society in which it operates, then I believe that something should be done. We as individuals have a responsibility to others aside from ourselves and I believe that companies should as well.


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Ok that being said, you're totally against our government. All they do is take as much money as they can from everyone, then redistribute it as they see fit. With total disregard to how it impacts our society.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:17 AM






Too few refineries, the oil companies are not reinvesting refining & distribution, the are maxamizing profits for the short term. Is that the answer you are looking for?


Walmart buys in bulk to maximize profits, should we be mad at them as well? Companies are formed to make money, not lose it.


To play devil's advocate for the moment, I do agree that's the purpose of a business. However, ethically and morally speaking, what if their profits are good for them, but bad for society as a whole? Does that make it right?


Walmart goes into small rural areas, sells the competition outta business, then when its no longer profitable, they up and leave. That's pretty harsh right there.


But think about it, when I started driving, gas was a dollar a gallon. Now its 3 dollars a gallon 19 years later, with MANY new taxes added in. Cigarettes cost 75 cents a pack back then, and are over 4 bucks a pack now. Milk used to be 1.50 a gallon, now its over 3 bucks a gallon. Gas prices have moved up in price so much slower than almost any other good you can buy.

So should we be mad at Cigarette companies(well moreso than most commies do already) and dairy farmers?


I'm not mad at any company for doing what it's designed to do. However, there does come a point when they cross lines. But, as a whole, when a company's sole motivation is to make as much money as they can with absolutely no regard to the society in which it operates, then I believe that something should be done. We as individuals have a responsibility to others aside from ourselves and I believe that companies should as well.


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Ok that being said, you're totally against our government. All they do is take as much money as they can from everyone, then redistribute it as they see fit. With total disregard to how it impacts our society.


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I will have to admit to being completely against our government as it currently operates. And that's not a political party thing. Our government's good in theory, but in actual practice, it needs quite a bit of overhauling. Starting with every professional politician currently in office and working outward from there bigsmile

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Wed 03/05/08 08:18 AM






Too few refineries, the oil companies are not reinvesting refining & distribution, the are maxamizing profits for the short term. Is that the answer you are looking for?


Walmart buys in bulk to maximize profits, should we be mad at them as well? Companies are formed to make money, not lose it.


To play devil's advocate for the moment, I do agree that's the purpose of a business. However, ethically and morally speaking, what if their profits are good for them, but bad for society as a whole? Does that make it right?


Walmart goes into small rural areas, sells the competition outta business, then when its no longer profitable, they up and leave. That's pretty harsh right there.


But think about it, when I started driving, gas was a dollar a gallon. Now its 3 dollars a gallon 19 years later, with MANY new taxes added in. Cigarettes cost 75 cents a pack back then, and are over 4 bucks a pack now. Milk used to be 1.50 a gallon, now its over 3 bucks a gallon. Gas prices have moved up in price so much slower than almost any other good you can buy.

So should we be mad at Cigarette companies(well moreso than most commies do already) and dairy farmers?


I'm not mad at any company for doing what it's designed to do. However, there does come a point when they cross lines. But, as a whole, when a company's sole motivation is to make as much money as they can with absolutely no regard to the society in which it operates, then I believe that something should be done. We as individuals have a responsibility to others aside from ourselves and I believe that companies should as well.


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Ok that being said, you're totally against our government. All they do is take as much money as they can from everyone, then redistribute it as they see fit. With total disregard to how it impacts our society.


Absoulutely! We need another party, Another TEA PARTY.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:23 AM
But still, how do the oil companies affect our society badly? They provide a product, at a price everyone is willing to buy it at. And most people complain and don't realize that 1 dollar to $1.50 is all taxes, so technically, you're paying the government to allow you to put gas in your car. And all those taxes are supposed to be for road maintenance, new roads, etc etc, but its used on other things, like everything else in DC. Social Security would be solvent for 50-60 more years, if congress didn't raid it to fund social programs and bigger government. I just wish people would actually read about what's going on, than just hear some news story, and assume its 100% correct.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:25 AM

Absoulutely! We need another party, Another TEA PARTY.


Unfortunately, I agree. Our country was founded on a principal of governing ourselves and gives us the freedom and responsibility to question and change what isn't working. So many people have abdicated that responsibility, assuming our government would never do anything to harm them. They assume that if it doesn't affect them directly, then it's ok. But what they fail to recognize is that things DO affect them, in small ways. And when the small things get large, they wonder how things got to that point. We as people need to accept our responsibilites to society as a whole.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:25 AM
Edited by Gumbyvs on Wed 03/05/08 08:26 AM
You know what would drastically change our government for the better? 1 4 year term for every elected official, regardless of where in government he/she man be. So you get 4 years and that's it! You then have to go back and get a real job.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:29 AM
I agree with the term limits, & also they should all be paid minimum wage! plus certain expenses of course.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:29 AM
I agree with the term limits, & also they should all be paid minimum wage! plus certain expenses of course.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:30 AM

You know what would drastically change our government for the better? 1 4 year term for every elected official, regardless of where in government he/she man be. So you get 4 years and that's it! You then have to go back and get a real job.


I agree. Professional politicians need to go. Their job is to get their job and keep their job. But it's not to actually do their job.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:31 AM
We have hi jacked this thread, big time.laugh

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Wed 03/05/08 08:32 AM
I don't think so, not really. It's all part and parcel of the question, if a little off on it's own tangent. bigsmile

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Wed 03/05/08 08:33 AM
Good discussion folks, It's been a long time since a tread I was in didn't melt down into name calling & ugly rants, that's why I usually just lurk. I need to go do some housework now, have a great day!

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Wed 03/05/08 08:35 AM
I need to do some work as well, but I'll be back to check things out in a bit bigsmile

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Wed 03/05/08 08:35 AM

Good discussion folks, It's been a long time since a tread I was in didn't melt down into name calling & ugly rants, that's why I usually just lurk. I need to go do some housework now, have a great day!


I rarely get into name calling, but sometimes, those people that keep trying to tell you the sky is purple and reality isn't real, just make me wonder why we haven't had another world war and ended life on this planet completely.

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Wed 03/05/08 08:45 AM


Good discussion folks, It's been a long time since a tread I was in didn't melt down into name calling & ugly rants, that's why I usually just lurk. I need to go do some housework now, have a great day!


I rarely get into name calling, but sometimes, those people that keep trying to tell you the sky is purple and reality isn't real, just make me wonder why we haven't had another world war and ended life on this planet completely.


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I try to respect everyone's opinion, just as I expect other's to respect my own. I generally don't get involved in these kinds of discussions because they do tend to degenerate into I'm right, you're wrong and you're just an asshole kind of thing. A good debate is one thing, I enjoy that, but the other, nope, no place for it in my world.

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