Topic: Terrorized by "War on Terror"
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Mon 03/03/08 09:56 AM
and it's hard to run with flippers on


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I fell of my chair with that one! drinker

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Mon 03/03/08 11:36 AM

I barely know the lady, but I do know that sending troops to foriegn lands is a very serious proposition, if done for anything less than the most rightious of reasons...

You think it's rightious and just in this case... I don't...



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Mon 03/03/08 11:45 AM


I barely know the lady, but I do know that sending troops to foriegn lands is a very serious proposition, if done for anything less than the most rightious of reasons...

You think it's rightious and just in this case... I don't...



I know it's right....and the choice was send the troops or fight the terrorist in the US...you can support the enemy just like dragon and a few others on do on here and hopefully for you, you can meet the terrorists that you support...



Oh please, oldest trick in the book. Either you are with us or you are against us. Hell even baby shrub used that one to divide the country. LOL

Let's look at the justification to go to war in Iraq, shall we?

Feel like a first grade teacher here but okay you want you got it.

Jusification for war in Iraq:

Bin Laden perpetrated 9/11.noway

Suicide pilots were from Afghan and Saudi.noway

Saddam had WMDnoway

Iraq had connections to 9/11.noway

Oh yea and the great lie of the century "either we fight them in Iraq (which they were not from Iraq) or we fight them here"noway

Come on people, you have to be able to see the greatest snow job of our time, right???

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Mon 03/03/08 11:51 AM
Using that logic, since it was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor, we had no business being in Europe during WWII.

If this generation had been living during WWII, we would be speaking either German or Japanese today.

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Mon 03/03/08 11:57 AM
Using that logic, since it was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor, we had no business being in Europe during WWII.

If this generation had been living during WWII, we would be speaking either German or Japanese today.


Very true!

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Mon 03/03/08 12:11 PM
Feel like a first grade teacher here but okay you want you got it.


you actually act more like one of the grade one students....laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 03/03/08 12:16 PM

Using that logic, since it was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor, we had no business being in Europe during WWII.

If this generation had been living during WWII, we would be speaking either German or Japanese today.


Thank God the generations before us we not so callously arrogent to think there words were the only solution to the world's problems. It's a cruel and viscous world out there, there is no isolation from it and to ignore it is inviting defeat....defeat against the enemy of today is certain death...

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Mon 03/03/08 12:24 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Mon 03/03/08 12:25 PM
Oh yea and the great lie of the century "either we fight them in Iraq (which they were not from Iraq) or we fight them here


and we all know what you know about lies...laugh laugh

the problem with your lie this time is that how would you know what would have occurred these years if Bush hadn't had the guts to do what was needed. Where is the evidence of what would have occurred in Iraq. Where is the evidence of what would have occurred in the US..oh maybe the evidence is in one those "articles" you claim you write....laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 03/03/08 12:26 PM



Thank God the generations before us we not so callously arrogent to think there words were the only solution to the world's problems. It's a cruel and viscous world out there, there is no isolation from it and to ignore it is inviting defeat....defeat against the enemy of today is certain death...


That's not entirely true. The Prime Minister of England before WWII was Neville Chamberlain. He was so proud of the fact that he was able to get a signed treaty with Hitler saying that Hitler wouldn't invade England. Chamberlain truly believed that you could reason with Hitler. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

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Mon 03/03/08 12:42 PM




Thank God the generations before us we not so callously arrogent to think there words were the only solution to the world's problems. It's a cruel and viscous world out there, there is no isolation from it and to ignore it is inviting defeat....defeat against the enemy of today is certain death...


That's not entirely true. The Prime Minister of England before WWII was Neville Chamberlain. He was so proud of the fact that he was able to get a signed treaty with Hitler saying that Hitler wouldn't invade England. Chamberlain truly believed that you could reason with Hitler. Sounds familiar doesn't it?


Yes and thank you for correcting me and pointing out my mistake, thanks to you, highlights the fact that words don't solve all the problems. Also as bad as Hitler was the German soldiers wore uniforms to distinguish themselves from private citizens...the Allied and German soldiers could also come to an agreement for a cease fire to celebrate Christmas..the German soldier if captured was easier to break since the German soldier held the same value of life....the enemy today that some people are naive enough to think they can reason with them is far worse and barbaric than the Germans...Yes there were barbaric Germans but with the enemy of today they have no value of life and they are all barbaric...there is no talking to them, they see that as a weakness

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Mon 03/03/08 12:47 PM
...the Allied and German soldiers could also come to an agreement for a cease fire to celebrate Christmas.


Wrong War!!!

the German soldier if captured was easier to break since the German soldier held the same value of life....the enemy today that some people are naive enough to think they can reason with them is far worse and barbaric than the Germans.

Tell that to the American soldiers shot (executed) during the Battle of the Bulge!!

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Mon 03/03/08 01:06 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Mon 03/03/08 01:09 PM
.the Allied and German soldiers could also come to an agreement for a cease fire to celebrate Christmas.


sorry...I didn't make that clear...I wasn't talking about the Allied and German command coming to an agreement...I meant there was cease fires that were agreed on at some battles that were going on by the both sides...nothing formal..

the German soldier if captured was easier to break since the German soldier held the same value of life....the enemy today that some people are naive enough to think they can reason with them is far worse and barbaric than the Germans.

Tell that to the American soldiers shot (executed) during the Battle of the Bulge!!


that did happen but the point I was making is the common grunt in the German army was similar to the Allied grunt.....not like the terrorist that we're dealing with today...

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Mon 03/03/08 01:11 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 03/03/08 01:14 PM
The American Patriots, the citizen soldiers of Revolutionary time had no uniforms either.
The Continental Army did, but just barely.

Anyway you guys presume, or forget this isnt 1770. Do you really expect the enemy in Iraq to stand in the open and fight us. That would be suicide! They fight how they are able. A guerilla style war is the only chance they have.

The US Army had ideas of fighting the same way against the Russians in the event of WWIII.
We also had plans to use tactical Nukes, Biological, and Chemical Weapons.

You guys should really quit listening to the propaganda that is fed you. Try Volunteering if you are so fired up about the war in Iraq. I think they call it, Put your money where your mouth is!!

The War in Iraq is illegal.
G. Bush should not be impeached however.
They should wait until he's out of office and then bring Criminal charges against him when there is no one to pardon his lying ass like he did Libby.

Once again the Democratic Voters, (the party people) screwed that up when they ensured a Republican victory in the Presidential elections by voting for Hillary and Obama.

Neither will be President, because the Independents will never support either one of those clowns.

My Prediction,,,,,
McCain will win...

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Mon 03/03/08 01:18 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Mon 03/03/08 01:20 PM
You guys should really quit listening to the propaganda that is fed you. Try Volunteering if you are so fired up about the war in Iraq. I think they call it, Put your money where your mouth is!!

The War in Iraq is illegal.


your against propaganda?..then why did you include it in your post?. The war has never been declared illegal by a court with jurisdiction and until it is it not illegal. And some of us would relish the idea of heading to Iraq...for me that would make me a few decades younger and I would be honored to do something to safegaurd the western way of life..


oh and the "style' of fighting the enemy in Iraq is using..the Geneva Conventions are still in force

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Mon 03/03/08 01:22 PM
Dont you follow the news??

Why was Libby prosecuted anyway?
Why is Gonzales no longer top judge.
The Republicans have ruled for 8 yrs and stack the legal system to ensure they wouldnt be prosecuted.

Wher, and what happened to Rummy?

Get real man. Read all the reports and not just what you want to believe!!

Geezz. Republican Bushies......laugh laugh

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Mon 03/03/08 01:25 PM

Dont you follow the news??

Why was Libby prosecuted anyway?
Why is Gonzales no longer top judge.
The Republicans have ruled for 8 yrs and stack the legal system to ensure they wouldnt be prosecuted.

Wher, and what happened to Rummy?

Get real man. Read all the reports and not just what you want to believe!!

Geezz. Republican Bushies......laugh laugh


"Put your money where your mouth is!!"...show me a judgment from the court having the authority over it that the war has been ruled illegal.....

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Mon 03/03/08 01:26 PM
I will vote for McCain.
Not because hes Republican, but because he is better than the other two clowns.
At least hes a man and wont let the Bushies tell him what to do.
At least the country wont fall completely apart.

We wont see the change we need, but at least we wont get any worse.

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Mon 03/03/08 01:28 PM

I will vote for McCain.
Not because hes Republican, but because he is better than the other two clowns.
At least hes a man and wont let the Bushies tell him what to do.
At least the country wont fall completely apart.

We wont see the change we need, but at least we wont get any worse.


next time you say something you should make sure you can back it up....then you won't have to show your embarrassment by calling people school yard names...

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Mon 03/03/08 01:33 PM
sorry...I didn't make that clear...I wasn't talking about the Allied and German command coming to an agreement...I meant there was cease fires that were agreed on at some battles that were going on by the both sides...nothing formal..


The Germans never surrendered until the Russians were at the door to the Ge3rman Chancellery, and Hitler was dead. They chose to surrender to us because they knew the Russians would never forgive them for the atrocities committed against them!

Seize fire???

When, where?
Im not from Missouri but Show me!

The incident at Christmas you referred to was WWI, Hitler was a Private, and neither side called a seize fire. It was a mutual, spontaneous agreement by some soldiers in one spot along the front. Not even widespread!

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Mon 03/03/08 01:34 PM


I will vote for McCain.
Not because hes Republican, but because he is better than the other two clowns.
At least hes a man and wont let the Bushies tell him what to do.
At least the country wont fall completely apart.

We wont see the change we need, but at least we wont get any worse.


next time you say something you should make sure you can back it up....then you won't have to show your embarrassment by calling people school yard names...


I can back it up. Later though I have to go to work!!