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Topic: Winter Soldiers to Testify Against War
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Sat 03/01/08 02:03 PM
Winter Soldiers to Testify Against War
By Maya Schenwar
t r u t h o u t | Report

Saturday 01 March 2008

Thirty-seven years ago, in the midst of a bitter-cold Michigan winter, 109 Vietnam veterans gathered at a Howard Johnson Motel auditorium in Detroit to tell their stories. For three days, they told of ransacking undefended villages, attacking civilians, mutilating bodies, torturing Viet Cong suspects, burning houses, destroying Vietnamese property and livestock and killing innocent children. At the conference, entitled Winter Soldier, the veterans accepted responsibility and mourned for their actions. But, taken collectively, their words incriminated a much larger culprit: the war itself.

This year, from March 13 to 16, about 300 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will follow in the footsteps of their predecessors, gathering for a second Winter Soldier conference, in Silver Spring, Maryland. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) it will make up the largest gathering ever of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.

Their mission? To tell the story of the war in the terms of those who have actually lived it.

"This is a moment when veterans won't let anyone else speak for us," said Aaron Hughes, an Iraq veteran who initiated the new Winter Soldier effort. "We hear from the pundits, we hear from the politicians, we hear from the generals, but we don't hear from the soldiers who've walked the streets, who've been there and know what it's about. We're the ones who can bring out the cruelties and dehumanization in US foreign policy."

The event, which will accommodate about 700 veteran advocates, social workers, support staff and members of the media in addition to veterans, will combine soldier testimonies and expert panels. The panels are intended to provide a factual context for the personal stories, according to Perry O'Brien, one of Winter Soldier's organizers. Panels and testimony will be grouped into 12 categories, including killing and wounding noncombatants, mishandling of dead, torture and abuse, sexual assault, discrimination in the military, destruction of civilian property, veterans' benefits issues and GI resistance.

Some testimonies will address acts of large-scale violence and human rights violations, while others will zero in on incidents that are often overlooked, such as racism toward Iraqis, sexual harassment of civilians and the military's waste and destruction of environmental resources.

O'Brien hopes that, through the medium of veterans' firsthand accounts, the public will gain new insight into the concrete abuses perpetuated by what may seem to be abstract foreign policy decisions.

"More than just telling stories, our goal is to show what's going on in both countries that is a result of US military policies," O'Brien said. "When we say, 'this is what we saw, this is what we were ordered to do,' patterns emerge. The patterns show that what the US is doing in Iraq is immoral and in many cases illegal."

IVAW has always turned to Vietnam veterans for mentorship and support, according to O'Brien, and the second Winter Soldier will echo its predecessor in its mission and basic themes. But this Winter Soldier's content will be, in many ways, very different. With digital recording technology at their disposal, soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have been able to capture the war through a variety of media. Photos and video footage - in addition to stories and speeches - will make up a key part of the program.

New technologies also mean a wider reach for this Winter Soldier: the event will be broadcast in its entirety on satellite channels, and live streaming coverage will be available at IVAW's web site.

With a wider reach comes the possibility of backlash. The first Winter Soldier met with a groundswell of criticism, including accusations that the testimonies were untrue or deceitful. This time around, though, IVAW will leave little room for critics to attempt to invalidate their stories. A 20-member verification team, made up mostly of combat soldiers, is collecting and vetting all the testimony before it is presented. "Among the far right-wing fringe we'll be accused of being 'phony soldiers,' and there will probably be accusations of false testimony," O'Brien said. "But we're confident that the case we'll be making is very credible."

Jose Vasquez, an Army reservist who refused to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan, has been working for months on the verification team. The meticulous process starts with interviews, basic background checks and questionnaires, then moves on to incident reports and photos. Vasquez speaks with other soldiers in each would-be testifier's unit, looking for corroboration. The team is also working with the National Lawyers Guild to put together Freedom of Information Act requests about operations in Iraq, and with Iraqi translators on the ground who can sometimes find civilians to corroborate accounts of particular events.

Vasquez holds that only testimonies that hold up to the most meticulous scrutiny will be presented.

"The ones we feel shaky about, we won't include in the public panel," he said.

The investigations behind the testimonies don't just lend the conference more credibility; Winter Soldier's organizers are determined to give their testifiers' words staying power. A compilation of their stories will be released in September or October, co-written by unembedded reporter Aaron Glantz, author of "How America Lost Iraq."

Also, according to Hughes, vets will come away from the conference with "truth in recruiting" materials, so they can more actively educate potential military recruits in their areas. Additionally, legal experts at the conference will give vets a more accurate sense of their own rights and the benefits they are entitled to, so they can better advocate for themselves.

Hughes sees the conference not as a stand-alone protest, but as a beginning.

"There's a whole tradition we're really trying to awaken, of US soldiers coming back from wars and resisting," he said. "We're trying to perpetuate that and make sure that when the government goes on military ventures for profit, the veterans are going to resist. We want to make sure it's a tradition that's being carried through."



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Maya Schenwar is an assistant editor and reporter for Truthout.
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Good for them, we need to hear the real truth.


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Sat 03/01/08 02:07 PM
the truth...we cant handle the truth

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Sat 03/01/08 02:14 PM
another useless copy and paste post by Cindy Sheehan...yawn yawn yawn

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Sat 03/01/08 02:16 PM
I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode

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Sat 03/01/08 02:17 PM
yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn

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Sat 03/01/08 02:23 PM
I'm a vetern and I guess your not. Do a tour over there and then your opinion might mean something. Think of how you got the right to post something like that for all the world to see!

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Sat 03/01/08 02:28 PM

I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode


It is good when the soldiers speak out. If you want to see any of the truth concerning the war these days you have to dig and watch public supported channels to get the real deal from the people on the streets of Iraq. The main news stations do not want to report the truth for some reason.noway

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Sat 03/01/08 02:34 PM


I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode


It is good when the soldiers speak out. If you want to see any of the truth concerning the war these days you have to dig and watch public supported channels to get the real deal from the people on the streets of Iraq. The main news stations do not want to report the truth for some reason.noway


No you only hear what you want to hear and report half truths.
Talk to the soldiers there and see what they say. All you and someone else does is copy and paste news articles from people that are biased.
They're idiots.
How many of these soldiers have you talked to from Iraq.
Ask a real soldier, and ask a real vet ....go see for yourself ...go to iraq, and go to vietnam....see for yourself.
If not then you have no business commenting on anything about any war.
Have you ever served in the military? If not shut your mouth.

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Sat 03/01/08 02:52 PM

I'm a vetern and I guess your not. Do a tour over there and then your opinion might mean something. Think of how you got the right to post something like that for all the world to see!


I am posting the news stories that I read. I am not anti soldier by any means so if you are taking it that way, I do apologize. I find this interesting and informative and will love hearing what these soldiers have to say.

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Sat 03/01/08 02:54 PM


I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode


It is good when the soldiers speak out. If you want to see any of the truth concerning the war these days you have to dig and watch public supported channels to get the real deal from the people on the streets of Iraq. The main news stations do not want to report the truth for some reason.noway

Are you friggen kidding me? The liberal media doesn't want to tell stories that justify their liberal position? You crack me up. You should be ashamed of the lack of respect you just showed our military. YOU should go do a tour over there if you want to keep posting this wasteful, negative b.s. How many have served over there, yet only 300 are willing to tell their shameful tale of woe? Get over yourself, and quit this character attack on our country

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Sat 03/01/08 02:55 PM
It is good when the soldiers speak out.


so that means what a soldier says is the truth?...then you owe the soldiers in here a big apology .....bigsmile

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Sat 03/01/08 03:04 PM



I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode


It is good when the soldiers speak out. If you want to see any of the truth concerning the war these days you have to dig and watch public supported channels to get the real deal from the people on the streets of Iraq. The main news stations do not want to report the truth for some reason.noway


No you only hear what you want to hear and report half truths.
Talk to the soldiers there and see what they say. All you and someone else does is copy and paste news articles from people that are biased.
They're idiots.
How many of these soldiers have you talked to from Iraq.
Ask a real soldier, and ask a real vet ....go see for yourself ...go to iraq, and go to vietnam....see for yourself.
If not then you have no business commenting on anything about any war.
Have you ever served in the military? If not shut your mouth.


I WILL NOT!!!! Who the hell are you to tell me anything???? I have my opinion and it is as valid as any other human beings opinion on this whole big ole planet. If it bothers you do not read my opinion then.noway huh

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Sat 03/01/08 03:10 PM



I support this, and do not support the war, it was not necessary..all propaganda..explode


It is good when the soldiers speak out. If you want to see any of the truth concerning the war these days you have to dig and watch public supported channels to get the real deal from the people on the streets of Iraq. The main news stations do not want to report the truth for some reason.noway

Are you friggen kidding me? The liberal media doesn't want to tell stories that justify their liberal position? You crack me up. You should be ashamed of the lack of respect you just showed our military. YOU should go do a tour over there if you want to keep posting this wasteful, negative b.s. How many have served over there, yet only 300 are willing to tell their shameful tale of woe? Get over yourself, and quit this character attack on our country


I personally feel I am being very patriotic and consiencious of my country. I am not at any level berating any of the soldiers. I hold their opinion as I would hold any other persons opinion for consideration.

As for the war, I am against the war. Not because of the soldiers but because the dam thing was illegally started and is still illegal and is just plain wrong.

Until I see the perpetrator of 9/11 caught and the victims of 9/11 vindicated, I will continue to speak out against the illegal war. I have that right and I feel just in my cause. So don't read my posts if they bother you so badly. I am speaking the truth.

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Sat 03/01/08 03:10 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Sat 03/01/08 03:12 PM
I WILL NOT!!!! Who the hell are you to tell me anything???? I have my opinion and it is as valid as any other human beings opinion on this whole big ole planet. If it bothers you do not read my opinion then...


Cindy..you have to learn to calm down...laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 03/01/08 03:10 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Sat 03/01/08 03:11 PM
glasses

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Sat 03/01/08 03:13 PM
the dam thing was illegally started and is still illegal and is just plain wrong.


you not going to start that BS again are ya??......laugh laugh

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Sat 03/01/08 03:14 PM

glasses


Noone is upset in here, at least not on my end. I have fought this battle since before the war started and I will continue until they pull us out of over there.

These little quibbles are nothing compared to what I have experienced on unmoderated sites.noway

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Sat 03/01/08 03:17 PM

the dam thing was illegally started and is still illegal and is just plain wrong.


you not going to start that BS again are ya??......laugh laugh


If you would like we can. I have plenty of material for this discussion.

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Sat 03/01/08 03:19 PM
These little quibbles are nothing compared to what I have experienced on unmoderated sites


so those other sites allow people to call you what you really are...must be a comfort though that your hiding behind a screen

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Sat 03/01/08 03:21 PM


the dam thing was illegally started and is still illegal and is just plain wrong.


you not going to start that BS again are ya??......laugh laugh


If you would like we can. I have plenty of material for this discussion.


we???...no your the one with plenty of material for that type of discussion...in fact that's all you probably have..yawn

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