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Topic: Is Bush to Blame for the Economy?
Chazster's photo
Fri 02/29/08 06:37 AM

well i dont know, maybe a regional thing or something, most of the people I know(average working americans NOT RICH) arent doing any complaining, things seem to be going at an even keel. they do how ever complain about the tax situation.... Im one of those people, since i wasnt deployed all year then i have to pay taxes(only fair) but i mean even after they took it out, i still have to pay more its not a lot but 124 bucks is a 124 bucks you know.


It could just be that we are in a slight ressetion. They way our economy works it just gonna happen every so many years. Not to mention it fell after 9/11 and the hurricanes, but you have to bounce back. The Enron thing didn't help either. All those were during his presidency and he couldn't really foresee them. My unlce owns a software company and one of his biggest clients was Enron; he had some hard times but pulled through (by hard I mean he ended up having to fire my aunt.. his sister not his wife). My dad had justed help start up and engineering consulting firm before 9/11. He was VP and after 9/11 econ. went down and they weren't doing too hot. He ended up getting a great job offer somewhere else and sold his part of the business.

The point is my family has experience trouble first hand from these events, but I have never heard them blame their troubles on the president. Just because he is in office doesn't mean he is to blame for everything that goes wrong.

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Fri 02/29/08 08:25 AM


I seriously think Madisonman and Dragoness should mate...just a thoughtdrinker flowerforyou bigsmile


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Fri 02/29/08 11:20 AM



I seriously think Madisonman and Dragoness should mate...just a thoughtdrinker flowerforyou bigsmile


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Fri 02/29/08 12:35 PM
MNHiker:

But the economy is not doing well now. Just look at the housing market. That's from the predatory lending that happened on Bush's watch.

Bill O'Reilly, are you serious? The 'No Spin Zone' where he spins faster than a cyclone? laugh laugh laugh laugh

Maybe if you're rich the economy is great.

If you're middle class, lower middle class, or out of work, it sucks.

Lindyy says:

I knew mentioning Bill O'Reilly would get you goinglaugh
Now, if you do not watch him, how would you know how he spins?
Gee, you sure insert foot in mouth a lot.

Lindyy
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Fri 02/29/08 12:40 PM



I seriously think Madisonman and Dragoness should mate...just a thoughtdrinker flowerforyou bigsmile


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Fri 02/29/08 01:00 PM
Our present economic state is the result of twenty-five plus years of corporate business friendly politics and economic tomfoolery, starting with Reagan's "Reaganomics"/"Supply-Side Economics" and culminating with NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT.

Even worse is that EVERY politician and president to take office since the early eighties has catered to the same philosophy, from Bush I, to Clinton, to Bush II, to practically everyone in the Senate and House of Representatives.

We've gone from the biggest exporter of goods to the worlds largest IMporter of goods, as well as the country with the largest trade deficit in close to twenty-five years time. And we owe it all to our dimwits in office.


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Fri 02/29/08 02:15 PM

Our present economic state is the result of twenty-five plus years of corporate business friendly politics and economic tomfoolery, starting with Reagan's "Reaganomics"/"Supply-Side Economics" and culminating with NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT.

Even worse is that EVERY politician and president to take office since the early eighties has catered to the same philosophy, from Bush I, to Clinton, to Bush II, to practically everyone in the Senate and House of Representatives.

We've gone from the biggest exporter of goods to the worlds largest IMporter of goods, as well as the country with the largest trade deficit in close to twenty-five years time. And we owe it all to our dimwits in office.




those dimwits (dipsticks) sold us out to the KHAZAR TRIBE, (Hollywood mogals)(mongolians)(barbarians)

Hey people , those barbarians really did exist ,and these are them.(KHAZARS)*(false jews)

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Fri 02/29/08 02:34 PM
Bush: And as people are now beginning to see, Iraq is changing, democracy is beginning to tak[e] hold. And I'm convinced 50 years from now people look back and say thank God there was those who were willing to sacrifice.

"Curry: But you're saying you're going to have to carry that burden... Some Americans believe that they feel they're carrying the burden because of this economy.

"Bush: Yeah, well --

"Curry: They say -- they say they're suffering because of this.

"Bush: I don't agree with that.

"Curry: You don't agree with that? Has nothing do with the economy, the war? The spending on the war?

"Bush: I don't think so. I think actually, the spending on the war might help with jobs.

"Curry: Oh, yeah?

"Bush: Yeah, because we're buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses."

In other words, in honor of the soon-to-arrive fifth anniversary of his war without end, the President has offered a formula for economic success in bad times that might be summed up this way: less houses, more bases, more weaponry, more war. This, of course, comes from the man who, between 2001 and today, presided over an official Pentagon budget that leapt by more than 60% from $316 billion to $507 billion, and by more than 30% since Iraq was invaded. Looked at another way, between 2001 and the latest emergency supplemental request to pay for his wars (first in Afghanistan and then in Iraq), supplemental funding for war-fighting has jumped from $17 billion to $189 billion, an increase of 1,011%. At the same time, almost miraculously, the U.S. armed forces have been driven to the edge of the military equivalent of default.

It's clear that as a "war president" our Commander-in-Chef
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13146

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Fri 02/29/08 03:00 PM
Edited by northrn_yanke on Fri 02/29/08 03:00 PM
Dragonbush: And as people are now beginning to see, Iraq is changing, democracy is beginning to tak[e] hold. And I'm convinced 50 years from now people look back and say thank God there was those who were willing to sacrifice.

"Madman: But you're saying you're going to have to carry that burden... Some Americans believe that they feel they're carrying the burden because of this economy.

"Dragonbush: Yeah, well --

"Madman: They say -- they say they're suffering because of this.

"Dragonbush: I don't agree with that.

"Madman: You don't agree with that? Has nothing do with the economy, the war? The spending on the war?

"Dragonbush: I don't think so. I think actually, the spending on the war might help with jobs.

"Madman: Oh, yeah?

"Dragonbush: Yeah, because we're buying equipment, and people are working. I think this economy is down because we built too many houses."

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Fri 02/29/08 07:04 PM

well i dont know, maybe a regional thing or something, most of the people I know(average working americans NOT RICH) arent doing any complaining, things seem to be going at an even keel. they do how ever complain about the tax situation.... Im one of those people, since i wasnt deployed all year then i have to pay taxes(only fair) but i mean even after they took it out, i still have to pay more its not a lot but 124 bucks is a 124 bucks you know.


I haven't looked at your profile, so I am assuming you are an Army doctor. If that's true, I would imagine that you make considerably less money in the service than you would in the private sector. i also thank you for your service if that is the case. I'm just curious what you consider the as "average working Americans"? :smile:

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Fri 02/29/08 07:54 PM




I seriously think Madisonman and Dragoness should mate...just a thoughtdrinker flowerforyou bigsmile


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their litter would be little mad dragons....laugh


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Of course you should be very afraid if that would happen, those mad dragons would be politically suavey and fiesty...look out.....laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 02/29/08 09:50 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Fri 02/29/08 09:53 PM

MNHiker:

But the economy is not doing well now. Just look at the housing market. That's from the predatory lending that happened on Bush's watch.

Bill O'Reilly, are you serious? The 'No Spin Zone' where he spins faster than a cyclone? laugh laugh laugh laugh

Maybe if you're rich the economy is great.

If you're middle class, lower middle class, or out of work, it sucks.

Lindyy says:

I knew mentioning Bill O'Reilly would get you goinglaugh
Now, if you do not watch him, how would you know how he spins?
Gee, you sure insert foot in mouth a lot.

Lindyy
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Well guess what? I have watched Bill O'Reilley and he's a big blowhard bag of wind, just like Rush Limbaugh.

Those guys should be clowns in a circus. Seriously.

You know the ones that come out of the tiny car?

Now who's inserting her foot in her mouth?

Just goes to show how braindead you are when you only get one point of view all the time.

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