Topic: Mormons are annoying.
sealove42's photo
Mon 02/25/08 08:50 PM
I wanted to hand them my cross when I was in the WinCo parking lot. She was so beautiful, but I just don't know if I could live so perfectly.

Night everyone.

TAB

adj4u's photo
Mon 02/25/08 08:56 PM

So I was going into Walgreens the other night and saw two young men who were dressed in suits and ties. My spidey sense was tingling and I hastened my pace. Turned out they were Mormons who wanted to convert me. They asked me how I was and I mumbled 'ok' over my shoulder. It was obvious I wasn't interested but they were not deterred. They gave me an internet link to a Mormon site! Since I was ignoring them I didn't catch it.

There should be a city ordinance or something banning prosyletizing in parking lots. explode explode explode


if you said i am not interested do not pursue it with me

go to the manager and complain and tell him you do not appreciate being pestered in the lot after declining
thier advances


Abracadabra's photo
Tue 02/26/08 12:31 PM
would you like a free copy of the bhagavad-vita?



In my Bhagavad Vita I found my Loletta
disguised as an angel concealed incognita

It never seemed wise to proselytize
as a door-maning Mormon selling Jesus with fries

So I hid all my doctrines and made love with the gal
it did nothing for morals but enhanced my morale

Now I’m religious with sins to confess
my virginity’s gone and my spirit's a mess

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Tue 02/26/08 12:45 PM
The only way to stop the Mormons from talking about their religion would be to limited freedom of speech for everyone.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 02/26/08 01:18 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 02/26/08 01:21 PM

The only way to stop the Mormons from talking about their religion would be to limited freedom of speech for everyone.


Free speech is restricted by law in most places when it comes to soliciting on private or public property without permission of the owner or establishment. And that would include proselytizing a religion.

There’s a difference between ‘free speech’ and the freedom to shove things into people’s faces just anytime you like. Let’s face it, if those same people were trying to pass out pamphlets for pornography they would be kicked off the property pretty quick.

Even people who are trying to proselytize a religion must respect private property. They can stand in their own yard and pass out pamphlets if they want. laugh

A lot of people don’t understand the idea behind ‘free speech’.

Just because they have a right to say whatever they want, doesn’t mean that they have a right to use anyone’s ‘microphone’ without their permission.

Even radio stations do this by choosing who they invite on their shows. Even talk show hosts will hang up on callers who hold wildly differing opinions. Those calls are usually screened before they ever get on the air anyway. In fact, this is especially true of religious radio stations.

Freedom of speech is not an excuse to ignore the wishes of property owners. The store that owns or rents the parking lot has every right to ask people not to proselytize on their property, and if the proselytizers refuse to stop the police can be called in to enforce the property owner’s rights.

Freedom of speech cannot be used as an excuse to break other laws.

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Tue 02/26/08 01:25 PM

Freedom of speech cannot be used as an excuse to break other laws.


Unless a sign was posted, they weren't breaking any laws. There is no law against speaking on private property, unless you are told you are not welcome or you are asked to leave. How do we know that the store owner wasn't a Mormon?

Here's the solution for this dilemma: Tell the store manager that you don't like being approached by Mormons in the parking lot. Let him handle it how he wants it handled, it's his job.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 02/26/08 01:51 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Tue 02/26/08 01:52 PM

Here's the solution for this dilemma: Tell the store manager that you don't like being approached by Mormons in the parking lot. Let him handle it how he wants it handled, it's his job.


That's exactly right and was already suggested.

It may well be that the store manager condones it or is even behind it.

In that case, if the customers don't like it they just need to find a new place to shop. flowerforyou

Of course, if it's a large chain then the store manager may even be out of line with the policies of the franchise. In that case, contacting the franchise headquarters may be the correct solution.

I personally never go that far. I would just ignore the proselytizers. laugh

Our streets here specifically say “No Soliciting” yet we are still visited by Jehovah’s Witnesses. They may have a special permit, I’ve never asked. Or maybe religions are exempt (that could depend on local ordinances).

It doesn’t bother me, I just politely tell them I’m not interested and they usually just leave. If they offer me papers I tell them honestly that I would just toss them in the trash can and they should keep them. I have no qualms about speaking the truth.

It’s been extremely rare that anyone will stop by that is extremely pushy. In fact a few years back one fellow did continue to converse after I told him that I wasn’t interested. We actually sat down and had a very lengthy in-depth discussion. When he finally left I think it was on his way to learn more about pantheism. bigsmile

FireOfThePhoenix's photo
Tue 02/26/08 01:56 PM
Having been Management for a large Retail Chain, most public shopping plazas do have a no Soliciting Rule with signs usually posted to prevent this kind of harrassment or offending of prospective customers.

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:06 PM
Why is it where ever I go.....bam there you are abra.....

Nothing but love for ya mister....



And as far as Mormon's........They feel they have to do works in order to get to heaven.......hmmm I think they might be disappointed....but I don't have a problem with it....always polite and nice...and just say no thanks I already love the Lord.....they usually go away then.

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Tue 02/26/08 02:07 PM
I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:10 PM

I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html



Hi Spider


and I totally agree with the ruling.

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Tue 02/26/08 02:16 PM

Hi Spider


and I totally agree with the ruling.


Hi FeralCatLady, I agree too. I'm sort of surprised at which justices concurred with this ruling and with those who dissented.

Hey, do you ever care for Servals? I always wanted a Serval, but I'm not sure if they are good around kids, etc.

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:22 PM
I would never recommend a wild animal to live with a family....Even mine are only in the house when kittens and then in pens until released......so no.......as much as they are beautiful I would never want them to be kept as pets....they belong in God's country. I just released a mom cougar and two cubs.....it was hard but so right yanno.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:28 PM

I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html

if they knock on my door,i will answer nude because my no soliciting sign means just that so if they solicite me,i will solicite them.

feralcatlady's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:30 PM


I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html

if they knock on my door,i will answer nude because my no soliciting sign means just that so if they solicite me,i will solicite them.



Then I would say they get what they deserve.......

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Tue 02/26/08 02:30 PM

I would never recommend a wild animal to live with a family....Even mine are only in the house when kittens and then in pens until released......so no.......as much as they are beautiful I would never want them to be kept as pets....they belong in God's country. I just released a mom cougar and two cubs.....it was hard but so right yanno.


Well, they are working on domesticating Servals. Personally, I can't control what happens in the wild, so I am a strong believer in conseration through captive breeding. That's the only reason why we still have many species of reptiles and amphibians, otherwise they would be extinct. :cry:

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:33 PM



I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html

if they knock on my door,i will answer nude because my no soliciting sign means just that so if they solicite me,i will solicite them.



Then I would say they get what they deserve.......

it wont be pretty..laugh

Woodrow's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:36 PM
All religions are just a way to control people, all preach the sme thing. Convert, convert, convert.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:38 PM

I'm always having to research these things, I can't stand wondering...

The Supreme Court has ruled that "door-to-door canvassing and pamphleteering as vehicles for the dissemination of ideas" is a valid form of free speech. So your "No Solicitation" signs don't apply to JWs, Mormons or anyone else who wants to give you a pamphlet.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1737.ZS.html


So in other words there's no such thing as "No Trespassing".

Freedom of speech gives people the right to trespass?

All you need to do to trespass is carry religious pamphlets in your pocket and you can just claim that you were trespassing to pass out your pamphlets.

I think the problem with the laws is that there are so many of them that they can all serve as a legal loophole to any other law.

I think there must be fine print in that law, (or bold print in other laws), that make it illegal to use freedom of speech as an excuse to invade private residences.

Sounds like there’s a conflict between the right to privacy and the freedom of speech.

Think about it. If the freedom of speech laws say what you claim, then theoretically you could have people knocking at your door ever five minutes and not be able to do anything about it. Even atheists would be permitted by law to pass out their pamphlets. You doorstep could end up looking like a paper waste disposal plant. laugh

Fortunately there are that many pushy people in the world so I guess it don’t really matter.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 02/26/08 02:42 PM
I don’t think religious people are happy unless they are annoying other people.

The most vociferous of them are really only just using religion as an excuse to annoy people.