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Topic: Anyone read the 101 Contradictions in The Bible?
MilfrdKev's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:39 PM
If you have what do you think about it?

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:41 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Thu 02/21/08 01:41 PM
smokin I dontsmokin

MilfrdKev's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:44 PM
i mean how The Bible contadicts itself 101 times?

MilfrdKev's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:45 PM
Grab a Bible here are some to chew on.....



1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

Peccy's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:49 PM
You can't tell me you expected concrete facts can you? It's a book of fiction.

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:51 PM
flowerforyou Its a religious text not a science book. flowerforyou

MilfrdKev's photo
Thu 02/21/08 01:53 PM
just some stuff i stumbled across:smile:

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Thu 02/21/08 01:55 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Thu 02/21/08 02:04 PM
Oh my innocent friend. Words that say one thing, can easily mean the opposite in the bible. The Christians have never seen a word with a set definition yet. noway

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Thu 02/21/08 02:03 PM
Edited by yzrabbit1 on Thu 02/21/08 02:06 PM

Generation means many many many generations

We means I

Me means everybody




It is like catching smoke in a net

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 02/21/08 02:04 PM

Anyone read the 101 Contradictions in The Bible?

If you have what do you think about it?


I haven't read it, but I personally think they were pretty lazy authors if they quit at just 101.

Then again, most of the contradictions have to do with the very nature of the stories, like a supposedly loving God doing unloving things, or a supposedly all-powerful God being powerless to do control situations. Or a supposedly unchanging God who drastically changes all the time in temperament, mood, and even in personality and what he wants from humans.

Those kind of contradictions can't be shown by just comparing a couple of verses, they require a 'bird's-eye' view of the whole story to be properly exposed.

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Thu 02/21/08 02:05 PM
A collective of parables of old cannot be accurate, regardless. It is not scientific nor is it historically accurate. It is a collection of stories of old. One should get as much value from it as they do reading any story book. There may be a moral message in one story and an ethical one in another so that always makes for interesting reading.flowerforyou

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Thu 02/21/08 02:07 PM
i just heard from someone that it was believed that this book had only one author, if so he/she must have been smoking something to have cross themselves so many times

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 02/21/08 02:09 PM

I would now like to show you how these are not contradictory. Is any Christian out there brave enough to defend the Bible and say that these clearly contradictory statements are not?

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Thu 02/21/08 02:23 PM
laugh

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Thu 02/21/08 02:29 PM

i just heard from someone that it was believed that this book had only one author, if so he/she must have been smoking something to have cross themselves so many times


Well I have heard this also but the author was god when I was told working magically through the hands of many men so I guess one can believe whatever they want to when it comes to this subject. Of course King James actually collected, edited, approved and disproved what would be included in the most popular version of the bible today. And he destroyed any conflicting text he could get his hands on that disputed the bible and made heritics of anyone who published and/or distributed anything that conflicted with his version so one man was actually largely responsible for most of what is taught and accepted today. But the authors of the different books were originally different men.

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Thu 02/21/08 02:31 PM
thank you for the clearification:smile:


i just heard from someone that it was believed that this book had only one author, if so he/she must have been smoking something to have cross themselves so many times


Well I have heard this also but the author was god when I was told working magically through the hands of many men so I guess one can believe whatever they want to when it comes to this subject. Of course King James actually collected, edited, approved and disproved what would be included in the most popular version of the bible today. And he destroyed any conflicting text he could get his hands on that disputed the bible and made heritics of anyone who published and/or distributed anything that conflicted with his version so one man was actually largely responsible for most of what is taught and accepted today. But the authors of the different books were originally different men.

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Thu 02/21/08 02:38 PM
There are tons of inconsistencies, and highly questionable situations in the Bible as far as I’m concerned.

In once case we have people being ‘led’ by God to a promised land. First, contradiction to that is that they wander around seemingly aimlessly for 40 years. That doesn’t represent very good ‘leadership’ from a God that is supposedly ‘leading’ them to a promised land.

Then when they finally get to the promised land there are already people living there! And all-powerful God wasn’t even powerful enough to come up with some empty land? So then God tells his chosen people to get in and murder all the people who are living in the promised land.

This may not seem inconsistent or contradictory to some people, but for me it totally contradicts the very power of what this supposedly all-powerful God is supposed to have. He can’t ever seem to have any of his plans work out without major problems involved. Hardly the signature of a supposedly ‘all-powerful’ God.

And this kind of sloppy ineptitude is just riddled all through the Bible. It's a story about a supposely all-wise and all-powerful God who can never seem to get anything right.

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Thu 02/21/08 02:39 PM

Grab a Bible here are some to chew on.....



1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)



Here are refutations for all of them.

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm

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Thu 02/21/08 02:43 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 02/21/08 02:58 PM

There are tons of inconsistencies, and highly questionable situations in the Bible as far as I’m concerned.

In once case we have people being ‘led’ by God to a promised land. First, contradiction to that is that they wander around seemingly aimlessly for 40 years. That doesn’t represent very good ‘leadership’ from a God that is supposedly ‘leading’ them to a promised land.

Then when they finally get to the promised land there are already people living there! And all-powerful God wasn’t even powerful enough to come up with some empty land? So then God tells his chosen people to get in and murder all the people who are living in the promised land.

This may not seem inconsistent or contradictory to some people, but for me it totally contradicts the very power of what this supposedly all-powerful God is supposed to have. He can’t ever seem to have any of his plans work out without major problems involved. Hardly the signature of a supposedly ‘all-powerful’ God.

And this kind of sloppy ineptitude is just riddled all through the Bible. It's a story about a supposely all-wise and all-powerful God who can never seem to get anything right.



Abra,

Once again, I have to admit I find your grasp upon the Bible to be very weak. The Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years as punishment. They arrived at Canaan very quickly after leaving Eqypt and the Israelites refused to follow Moses into Canaan out of fear of the Canaanites. As punishment, God forced the Israelites to stay in the desert for 40 years until all of the men above 20 had died, except for Moses, Caleb and one or two others I can't remember right now.

Please don't comment on "interpretations", because what I said is the story laid out by the Bible.

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Thu 02/21/08 03:06 PM

There are tons of inconsistencies, and highly questionable situations in the Bible as far as I’m concerned.

In once case we have people being ‘led’ by God to a promised land. First, contradiction to that is that they wander around seemingly aimlessly for 40 years. That doesn’t represent very good ‘leadership’ from a God that is supposedly ‘leading’ them to a promised land.

Then when they finally get to the promised land there are already people living there! And all-powerful God wasn’t even powerful enough to come up with some empty land? So then God tells his chosen people to get in and murder all the people who are living in the promised land.

This may not seem inconsistent or contradictory to some people, but for me it totally contradicts the very power of what this supposedly all-powerful God is supposed to have. He can’t ever seem to have any of his plans work out without major problems involved. Hardly the signature of a supposedly ‘all-powerful’ God.

And this kind of sloppy ineptitude is just riddled all through the Bible. It's a story about a supposely all-wise and all-powerful God who can never seem to get anything right.




Firstly, God saved his people from Egypt. They reached the Promise Land, but the people didnt follow Moses. So he punished them in the desert for 40 years.

Secondly, the people that lived in the Promise Land werent following God. They were worshipping idols and sacrificing to their gods. God had the Isrealites destroy them and the idols

Thirdly, God is in control of everything. He blesses those who honor him and helps those who call on him. He lets things happen for a reason. Yeah 9/11 happened and yeah the War on Terror is still going on. God knows whats going to happen

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