Topic: interesting letter on immigration
nu2topcat's photo
Thu 02/14/08 08:29 AM
ORANGE COUNTY ( CALIFORNIA ) NEWSPAPER
This is a very good letter to the editor. This woman made
some good points. For some reason, people have difficulty
structuring their arguments when arguing against supporting
the currently proposed immigration revisions. This lady
made the argument pretty simple. NOT printed in the
Orange County Paper however.................

Newspapers simply won't publish letters to the editor which
they either deem politically incorrect (read below) or which
do not agree with the philosophy they're pushing on the
public. This woman wrote a great letter to the editor that
should have been published; but, with your help it will get
published via cyberspace!

New Immigrants
From: 'David LaBonte'

My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor
of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I
Decided to 'print' it myself by sending it out on the Internet.

Pass it along if you feel so inclined.
Dave LaBonte (signed)

Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in
The Orange County Register :

Dear Editor:
So many letter writers have based their arguments on how
this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan, for one,
suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because
the people now in question aren't being treated the same
as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports
of entry.

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out
to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing
to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in
1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to
come to the United States , people had to get off a ship and
stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some
would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the
ground.

They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their
new country in good and bad times. They made learning
English a primary rule in their new American households
and some even changed their names to blend in with their
new home. They had waved good-bye to their birth place
to give their children a new life and did everything in their
power to help their children assimilate into one culture.

Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare,
No labor laws to protect them. All they had were the
skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to
trade for a future of prosperity.

Most of their children came of age when World War II
broke out. My father fought alongside men whose
parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy,
France and Japan. None of these 1st generation
Americans ever gave any thought about what country
Their parents had come from. They were Americans
fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan
They were defending the United States of America as one
People.

When we liberated France, no one in those villages
were looking for the French-American or the German-
American or the Irish-American. The people of France
saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that
represented one country. Not one of those immigrant
sons would have thought about picking up another
country's flag and waving it to represent who they were.
It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had
sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly
knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the
melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.

And here we are in 2007 with a new kind of immigrant
who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they
want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules,
one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of
being faithful to their mother country.

I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about. I believe
that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in
the early 1900's deserve better than that for all the toil,
hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to
create a land that has become a beacon for those legally
searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled
that they are being used as an example by those waving
foreign country flags.

And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of
Liberty? It happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are
voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking
about dismantling the United States just yet.

(signed) Rosemary LaBonte


drummerjosh's photo
Thu 02/14/08 08:41 AM
She is exactly right. SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE! explode explode

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:11 AM
I am not allowed to comment on this!!!explode

DebbieJT's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:17 AM
although i believe people have a right in a better life if they can obtain it...in our country some of the people who emmigrated into britain are trying to stop us from displaying and celebrating our british holidays such as st george day as it isnt part of there religion..this is when things are getting out of control

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:33 AM
Oh, man here we go with the dam misinformation propaganda. Illegals do not get benefits from the government. They are not eligible.

Stop believing the garbage spread by these racist propagandist. They are hatemongering and everyone that buys it is spreading the problem.explode

Even legal immigrants do not get benefits from our government until they have been here for sometimes more than 10 years.

Come on people stop believing the bullsh*t!!!!!!

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:34 AM

Oh, man here we go with the dam misinformation propaganda. Illegals do not get benefits from the government. They are not eligible.

Stop believing the garbage spread by these racist propagandist. They are hatemongering and everyone that buys it is spreading the problem.explode

Even legal immigrants do not get benefits from our government until they have been here for sometimes more than 10 years.

Come on people stop believing the bullsh*t!!!!!!
Ignorance is bliss I guess.....ohwell

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:43 AM
While I believe Dragoness is more informed on the legal aspects of it than I am, I know that illegals are getting assistance, because I have worked with some & they brag about it. The key word here is illegal. If they will break the law to get here & get a job, then they will break the law to get benifits. I am not racist, I have no proplem with legal well managed immigration. BY well managed I mean health checks, criminal background checks & proof that you can support yourself.

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:45 AM
nu2topcat,
Thanks for sharing that letter.

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:48 AM
Oh & I should memtion that many people are cheating to get benifits people of all backgrounds, most born here. Again, if you work in low lovel jobs like I have you hear them bragging.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/14/08 09:50 AM

While I believe Dragoness is more informed on the legal aspects of it than I am, I know that illegals are getting assistance, because I have worked with some & they brag about it. The key word here is illegal. If they will break the law to get here & get a job, then they will break the law to get benifits. I am not racist, I have no proplem with legal well managed immigration. BY well managed I mean health checks, criminal background checks & proof that you can support yourself.


As for illegally receiving benefits from the government, more citizens get benefits illegally then illegals. It is easier for a citizen to dupe the system then illegals. There are more checks for illegals in our system. I worked for the welfare department for a long time and I know these laws.

It is not the state governments that say that illegals get nothing from the government it is the federal government that said this and it has been on the books for alot longer than illegals have been the headlines here.

People stop believing the hatemongering of these racist propagandists. It is bull.

no photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:12 AM
Nu2 how did you slip this in???? You know I am not ALLOWED to talk about IMMIGRATION!!!noway noway laugh noway

stevex86's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:22 AM

Oh, man here we go with the dam misinformation propaganda. Illegals do not get benefits from the government. They are not eligible.

Stop believing the garbage spread by these racist propagandist. They are hatemongering and everyone that buys it is spreading the problem.explode

Even legal immigrants do not get benefits from our government until they have been here for sometimes more than 10 years.

Come on people stop believing the bullsh*t!!!!!!


Thats not entirely true. Their are some benefits that illegals and legals can recieve regardless of how long they ahve been here. Also, welfare, as are many other social programs funded by federal tax dollars, are administered by states. The states have various requirments regarding elegibility.

I agree though, immigration is a huge problem in this countnry in its own right. We dont need missinformation clouding the issues. I will say that if the illigal and legal Mexican immigrants wanted me to support them more they would have marched with Amercian flags, not Mexican or any other country.

I welcome future Americans to Immigrate to my wonderfull country. There is even a legal way to do it, albeit, seriously screwed up and in need of an overhaul. With that said though, I have no desire to fill my country with with Mexicans, Germans, or any other nationality. Just Americans, regardless of ethnic origins.

nu2topcat's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:46 AM
AN UPDATE::: dragoness is the most misinformed person in Denver Co. i know because i live here i am sick of her tirades about racism, and hatemongering, i am white, my son is half white, his mother is mexican (legal) she is so misinformed, she can not stand up straight, lol. i know what i am talking about, i live it daily unlike her reading it in some type of rag paper like star or national enquirer. i have been married to 2 mexican women, they also know the truth that she does not. the only bullsh*t i see is comming out of her lips. to any one who knows dragoness, stump posts and rocks more informed than she.
what a jewel!!!! who the hell is the hatemonger????

iraceslowcars's photo
Thu 02/14/08 10:50 AM
Edited by iraceslowcars on Thu 02/14/08 10:52 AM

With that said though, I have no desire to fill my country with with Mexicans, Germans, or any other nationality. Just Americans, regardless of ethnic origins.


So, where did your ancestors come from? Are you Native American? We all come from somewhere else...

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:01 AM

AN UPDATE::: dragoness is the most misinformed person in Denver Co. i know because i live here i am sick of her tirades about racism, and hatemongering, i am white, my son is half white, his mother is mexican (legal) she is so misinformed, she can not stand up straight, lol. i know what i am talking about, i live it daily unlike her reading it in some type of rag paper like star or national enquirer. i have been married to 2 mexican women, they also know the truth that she does not. the only bullsh*t i see is comming out of her lips. to any one who knows dragoness, stump posts and rocks more informed than she.
what a jewel!!!! who the hell is the hatemonger????


You sir are misinformed. I know exactly what I am talking about. I worked for the government here and can to this day tell you who is eligible for welfare and what income limits apply.

Just because you live here does not make you more knowledgable then I am . I have done the programs I worked for the government and know for a fact that illegals get nothing from the government and it is the feds who set the law and Colorado is following it to the letter.

You must be one of those misinformed constituents who voted to have our illegal policies revamped here so they could stop illegals from getting welfare. LOL, it was soooo funny to me. The legislature here catered to these hatemongers in our state and sat sessions to duplicate the laws already on the books here. I laughed and cried because it was ludicrous to sit and recreate that that was already in effect and then WASTE MY TAX PAYER DOLLARS DOING IT!!!!!

There was news coverage of this phenomenon last fall, News anchors reported NO CHANGE IN WELFARE ROLLS SINCE INTITUTION OF ILLEGAL LEGISLATION!!! Bet you can figure out why??!!!! NO ILLEGALS GOT WELFARE FOODSTAMP MEDICAID ....EVER!!!!!

So keep on talking but you are the misinformed person on this subject, not me.

stevex86's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:06 AM


With that said though, I have no desire to fill my country with with Mexicans, Germans, or any other nationality. Just Americans, regardless of ethnic origins.


So, where did your ancestors come from? Are you Native American? We all come from somewhere else...


All my ancestors are Amercicans. The second they stepped foot in this country thats what they became. I belive if you re read my post with an open mind, specifically "regardless of ethnic origins" you will understand my point more fully.

iraceslowcars's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:11 AM



With that said though, I have no desire to fill my country with with Mexicans, Germans, or any other nationality. Just Americans, regardless of ethnic origins.


So, where did your ancestors come from? Are you Native American? We all come from somewhere else...


All my ancestors are Amercicans. The second they stepped foot in this country thats what they became. I belive if you re read my post with an open mind, specifically "regardless of ethnic origins" you will understand my point more fully.

To me, the quoted part of your post contradicts the rest of it. Most people who entered this country even 100 or 150 years ago couldn't speak english and stuck with the traditions and language of their homelands, it takes a couple of generations to adapt to the melting pot aound us.

franshade's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:17 AM
urban legend - not true!
yawn

stevex86's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:20 AM




With that said though, I have no desire to fill my country with with Mexicans, Germans, or any other nationality. Just Americans, regardless of ethnic origins.


So, where did your ancestors come from? Are you Native American? We all come from somewhere else...


All my ancestors are Amercicans. The second they stepped foot in this country thats what they became. I belive if you re read my post with an open mind, specifically "regardless of ethnic origins" you will understand my point more fully.

To me, the quoted part of your post contradicts the rest of it. Most people who entered this country even 100 or 150 years ago couldn't speak english and stuck with the traditions and language of their homelands, it takes a couple of generations to adapt to the melting pot aound us.


Most of them didnt march carrying flags of their previous country either! The came here to be Americans, possibly even americans of Irish ancestory, but not Irish people living in American.

My great grandmother on my mothers side was first generation and my ex wife was a naturalized citizen. They all believed and weanted to be Americans, not something else. I served in Iraq with two soldiers from the Phillipines. They joined the Ameican Army to be elegible to be Amercians. I also am serving now with American, who was born in Mexico City, immigrated here and naturalized. He is an American not a Mexican living in America. None of these people marched with flags from another country demanding rights in this one. I know what Im talking about.

nu2topcat's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:37 AM
dragoness, still in the box of rocks catagory, i have had 3 brother-in-laws, no english or just a few words, when they wanted to go home, (mexico) they called immagration for a free ride back to mexico, then visitedd family there then snuck back laughing all the way. also they took american dollars to there original family in mexico. you might know the legal side but are clueless on the reality side, i am the one paying for the reality side and so are millions more like me. you are a typical goverment beuracrat CLUELESS, living in a makebelive world. till you have lived with the crap and seen it day to day as i have, shut the heck up goverment stooge!!!