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I have routes in a few different places. Its always good to meet people from the site and I hope he flags me down.
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Tue 01/13/09 08:26 AM
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I have routes in a few different places. Its always good to meet people from the site and I hope he flags me down. I'll send you the details of where exactly he lives  
so it won't come as a shock to you , if someone flags you down  
if things work out with him...
and if i go to Idaho to visit him
we will find you for sure 
& hopefully Lady Eileen can be there , too 
and we can all go out for dinner ...
oh that would be soo cool!!!
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Sat 01/17/09 09:03 AM
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Well, The new Man from Idaho actually showed up
like he said he was going to
 that is truly amazing in and of itself
 since many of these California boys are so flaky
 they aren't very adventurous  or they are too much so
& it is rampant that they often say one thing & do another
 and many of them are so lazy & tight with their time & money
 they don't even want to come across town to meet someone
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I hope all is going well with you Vanessa.
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I live in Twin, been here bout ten years, before tht I was in Boise for 6 years.
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Welcome Achilles!!
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Thank you, this site seems more attuned to chatting than anything else, and that is good too.
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There are some really great people on here!
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I smell potatoes!!!
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That's funny, I work in a Pork slaughter house, I smell blood.
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I hope all is going well with you Vanessa. Ohhh...thank you Captain...
 I am doing quite well, thank you
 hope all is well with you & Lady Eileen
 i don't think this Idaho man is < the One > for me
he is better than many I have met
very generous and all
 but sadly... quite a bit neanderthal
oh well..back to the drawing board
Hi my Sweet Sister Fresh Mountain Air
Hope you & your Family are having a fun winter
staying happy, healthy warm & toasty
 in your rustic Mountain home in the pristine Wilderness
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I smell potatoes!!!
I do too
Russets
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http://132.178.236.111/information/otherprojects/potato/russets.html
IDAHO'S FAMOUS POTATO: THE DISCOVERY OF RUSSET BURBANKS Nearly all of the potatoes grown within the borders of the state of Idaho are one variety, the Russet Burbank. Although potato breeders have been working for more than forty years in the state in an attempt to improve the Russet Burbank variety, to date, no variety has been introduced that has proven a serious contender to this traditionally famous Idaho baker. It is fortunate that scientists are in the habit of keeping journals and records of their experiments and work because it is from Luther Burbank's journal that we find the following account of the origin of the Burbank potato. In 1872 Luther Burbank found a single fruit (seed ball) growing in his New England garden planting of the potato variety Early Rose. Because Early Rose did not commonly set fruits, he watched this fruit throughout the season with an eye to harvesting it when mature. Unfortunately the fruit disappeared from the parent stem. Burbank decided that it would not have been attractive as food to bird or animal and started to look for it. He said, "so day after day I returned and took up the search again and at last, this patient search was rewarded. The missing seed ball was found." Luther Burbank found only twenty-three seeds in the fruit. When the spring of 1872 came, he planted the twenty-three seeds in the garden "as one would plant the seeds of beets or cabbage. The ground had been prepared with great care and each seed was placed about a foot from its neighbor in the row, but no special protection was given the seeds." All twenty-three seeds grew and produced tubers. Two seedlings appeared better than the Early Rose parent and one of the two was distinctly better in yield and size of tubers. This better seedling proved itself in the summer of 1874. Burbank felt that this new seedling, which would produce two or three times as much as ordinary varieties, should be introduced to the public. He said that the first dealer to whom he offered the new potato "declined it rather curtly." Burbank finally mustered up enough courage to try again. To bring the potato to the attention of J.H. Gregory of Marblehead, Massachusetts, he sent him a sample by way of introduction. Burbank wanted $500 for the potato, but Gregory would pay only $150. Luther Burbank used the money to move to California. He took with him ten tubers that Gregory allowed him to keep. Gregory named the variety Burbank Seedling (which subsequently became simply Burbank). The ten tubers which Burbank took with him to California appeared to be the nuclear stock for the introduction of the Burbank variety to the West Coast states. By 1906 over six-million bushels of Burbanks were produced in these states. As late as 1949, 37,517 bushels of certified seed of Burbank were produced in California, Oregon, and Washington. The fact that Burbank subsequently grew more than one-half million seedlings from a deliberate hybridization program without producing another successful variety is also of interest. The potato which Idaho made famous was not exactly a Burbank. The Burbank variety is a smooth-skinned long white potato and the Russet Burbank variety, which Idaho grows, has a slightly rough reticulated skin commonly termed netted as a Netted Gem, a common synonym for Russet Burbanks. According to Luther Burbank the Russet Burbank was originated by a man in Denver, Colorado, who evidently selected a chance sport out of Burbank. Burbank stated that, "These Burbank potatoes raised by Lon D. Sweet of Denver, Colorado, have a modified coat in a way that does not add to their attractiveness. It is said, however, that this particular variant is particularly resistant to blight, which gives it exceptional value." Mutation from the russeted mutation back to the original smooth-skin Burbank types has been observed. The smooth-skinned reverse mutant appears to be indistinguishable from the original Burbank variety. There appears to be no reason to doubt that Russet Burbank variety originated as a periclinalsomatic mutation or sport of the Burbank variety as selected by Luther Burbank in the summer of 1873 from twenty-three seedlings derived from a chance fruit on a plant of Early Rose variety. Luther Burbank, in his writings, has stated that this chance seedling constituted his first commercially valuable plant development and that it furnished a practical means of his moving to California where he was able to carry out his experiments on a far more comprehensive scale than would have been possible in his native New England. Burbank gained his great renown from his subsequent work in plant hybridization, not from the potato bearing his name. In retrospect, considering the importance of the Russet Burbank potato variety in present day agriculture and industry, the Burbank and subsequent Russet Burbank mutant would appear to be his greatest single accomplishment. Even though the Burbank strain was developed in New England and mutated in Colorado, it remained for Idaho growers to make the variety famous. Potato scientists have speculated that it was not the Russet Burbank that made Idaho famous, but rather Idaho that made the Russet Burbank famous. The rationale for this statement is based on the fact that Idaho growing conditions tend to produce a superior potato of any variety. Since potatoes were originally a high altitude plant, they tend to grow better at elevations somewhat above sea level. Summer days along the Snake River Valley in Idaho are sunny and warm. Photosynthesis creates carbohydrates in the green leaves of potato vines in the form of starch. However, the leaves cannot store the starch and a process called translocation takes place. This action requires cool temperatures between sunset and sunrise for the successful transfer of the starch from leaves to tubers. Idaho's climate of warm days and cool nights provides ideal climatic conditions for the growing and production of potatoes. In addition to climate, potatoes require a high moisture content in the soil. It is thought that the ideal water content is around eighty percent. Most areas where there is sufficient sunshine to grow a good crop of potatoes do not have rainfall providing frequent rain storms to maintain the solid moisture at the ideal level. Since nearly all of south Idaho agriculture depends on irrigation, it is possible for growers to regulate the amount of water and the soil moisture content at the ideal level. The third factor that contributes to the quality of potatoes grown in Idaho is the nature of the soil itself. Potatoes seem to grow better in a light soil, like volcanic ash conditions which exist in Idaho's potato growing areas. Not only is the light soil conducive to good potato culture, but rich supply of trace minerals in the volcanic soil seems to be necessary for successful potato production. It has never been determined exactly what the soil contains that makes an outstandingly successful potato crop. When new land is brought under cultivation after centuries of "desert" conditions where sagebrush, bitterbrush, and a variety of grasses and forbes have been its only production, the first year usually produces an exceptionally fine crop. These desert soils are hardly ever high in nitrogen, and it is necessary to supply the needed nitrogen with chemical fertilizers. Phosphate is also usually added and in some areas, potash seems to produce added yields and quality. These three primary plant foods are replenishable at required rates, but it never seems possible to duplicate the first year crop when the potatoes are planted for the first time in desert soil and all of the trace minerals and native organisms are present. The net result of Idaho growing conditions is a potato which is high in solids content, has a white, mealy texture when cooked, and a pleasing potato flavor. Although potatoes can be grown in both alkaline and acidic soils, the Idaho farmland is predominantly alkaline. Although potatoes tolerate the alkaline soil balance quite well, it creates another problem-potato scab. It was in fact potato scab that made the Russet Burbank popular in Idaho and in the opinions of some people, the savior of the Idaho potato industry. Since the scab organism grows and prospers only in alkaline soils, in production areas where soils are predominantly acidic, scab is not a problem. It had become a problem of considerable magnitude in Idaho in the early 1900's when farmers were growing Rural New Yorker, Early Rose, Cobbler, Russet Rural, Idaho Rural, and Bliss Triumph varieties. The scab organism stays in the soil and when tubers are infected they are worthless for food purposes. It is not known for sure who brought the first quantities of Sweet's russeted Burbank potatoes to Idaho. It seems instead that several small quantities made their appearance almost simultaneously and various Idaho growers tried the new variety and found that it had considerable resistance to potato scab as well as other diseases. It took Idaho growers a considerable period of time to learn how to grow the Russet Burbank because it seemed to be extremely sensitive to soil moisture conditions, soil temperatures, and the ratio of vines to tubers. Although the consumer and the restaurant chef wanted the smooth, elongated, russeted tuber that pleases the eye and the palate of the final consumer, growers found russets growing knobby, misshapen, and ugly at the slightest provocation. They soon found that they could not allow russet potatoes to get dry during the growing season, nor could they grow them with wide plant spacing which allowed too great a vine in relation to the tubers beneath the ground. Russets proved prone to production of knobs, second growth, growth cracks and dumbbell-shaped potatoes compared to round varieties such as Cobblers and Bliss Triumphs. When grading standards were established, tubers with knots to be clipped off became twos and anything that was too rough for the simple clipping operation became a cull. It was therefore necessary for growers to acquire a great deal of knowledge and employ their skill without interruption throughout the growing season to have a quality crop. The very sensitivity of the Russet Burbank may have been an advantage to Idaho since it was responsible for growers and shippers thinking in terms of potato quality. The late Joe Marshall was one of the crusaders for quality production in Idaho, and was one of the people instrumental in getting a certified seed program started. Reaction by consumers was overwhelmingly favorable. Never before had a variety of potato appeared that baked with the white and mealy characteristics of the Idaho russet potato. For many years Idaho was the only potato growing area of any size that produced Russet Burbank potatoes and that gave Idaho the reputation for being the source of the world's greatest bakers. Growing areas in other states of lower elevation where nighttime temperatures are low enough tended to produce potatoes of lower solid content and with various internal problems that produce darkening and discoloration. States with growing areas above Idaho in elevation had shorter growing seasons and were unable to mature a crop of russets or produce tuber sizes that made them economically feasible. Higher growing areas also tended to produce a slimmer shaped tuber with a pointed end which was less acceptable for a quality potato. Many of the growing problems have been solved in other states, and considerable acreage of russets are now grown in Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Maine, to mention a few. Idaho potato industry people very sincerely feel that russets grown in other producing areas have never quite achieved the quality that Burbank's famous development has achieved in the state of Idaho. It is interesting that the accidental finding of a seed pod in Burbank's New England garden had such a remarkable effect on Idaho agriculture. The persistence of Luther Burbank in returning again and again to search for the single seed pod was the factor that held in balance the future of the Idaho potato industry. Certainly the contribution of Luther Burbank, the great plant breeder, to Idaho agriculture is one of astronomical size and very difficult to measure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text Excerpted from Aristocrat in Burlap: A History of the Potato in Idaho by James W. Davis. Courtesy of the Idaho Potato Commission. |
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I smell potatoes!!!
Hmmm...I think your really smelling burnt toast...
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(((Rapunzel)))
Thank you for the education!! It is always nice to learn something.....I always knew it was because we grew THE BEST potatoes!! LOL
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I smell potatoes!!!
Hmmm...I think your really smelling burnt toast...
hahahahaha....
i don't know what it is in my neighborhood...
it smells like burnt toast for real ...
and i have no clue what it is... 
and it is soooo annoying... 
and everyone goes around like nothing is wrong
i am thinking Can't any one else smell that? it is everywhere...nothing that makes sense
happens in the city for the most part
and everything that is soo weird is commonplace
go figure
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(((Rapunzel)))
Thank you for the education!! It is always nice to learn something.....I always knew it was because we grew THE BEST potatoes!! LOL
You are welcome i thought you'd like that
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I smell fries!!!
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I smell fries!!!
you have a real good sense of smell
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I have routes in a few different places. Its always good to meet people from the site and I hope he flags me down. Captain...
if he flags you down....
step on it and blast past him
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