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Topic: Obama and Goodness
anoasis's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:11 AM
Edited by anoasis on Sun 01/27/08 08:21 AM



The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from thr inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level.



First, I was raised Christian. I am not now a Christian. To call me one just because I was raised that way does not make it true. Obama has said he is Christian. Therefore by definition he is a Christian.

And secondly, although some radical extremist muslims have said that they would like to destroy the US. Many other muslims have said that they disagree. Grouping all muslims in this way is like saying "all christians want to destroy black people" just because some Klansman claim to be christian.

You are spewing dangerous rhetoric. Please try to examine your information and assess each piece of it- not just swallowing it whole as it is crammed down your throat.

The disinformation you are spreading is dangerous and divisive.



nascar8fan_31's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:14 AM
Obama did attend an islamic based school when he was a young child..it was not the radical type of islam that we are seeing transpire today...however, he has made it very clear that he is not muslim that he is very much a christian. the muslim smear is simply the CLINTON's compaign to attack him.

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:20 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp


Moondark's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:32 AM



Doesn't Obama seem to just have an air of Goodness about him.Which Christian Denomination does he belong to. He seems to be doing the Bible a good deed.

I think he is Islam


No, he is not. Taken from some of his interviews and articles that have been posted on line.

"It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street in the Southside of Chicago one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and not an epiphany. I didn't fall out in church. The questions I had didn't magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth." http://hootsbuddy.blogspot.com/2006/12/what-is-barack-obamas-religion.html

"I've been to the same church _ the same Christian church _ for almost 20 years," Obama said, stressing the word Christian and drawing cheers from the faithful in reply. "I was sworn in with my hand on the family Bible. Whenever I'm in the United States Senate, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. So if you get some silly e-mail ... send it back to whoever sent it and tell them this is all crazy. Educate." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22767392/


KennethP5206's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:32 AM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama

Moondark's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:34 AM
If you get this, go to Snopes. It punches holes into the entire thing. This took a little time to do, it is a brief synopsis of Snopes in ( ) behind the claims made in the email.

If you don't ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts....this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States....better heed this and pray about it and share it.

We checked this out on ' snopes.com '. It is factual. Check for yourself. (actually, according to snopes, it is not true at all.)

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. (By the tine SR marreid Ann, he no longer was a practicing muslim.)

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii, When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. (There is no evidence that he was radical at all)

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. (The muslim school was not a radical school. It was a mixed school, serving children of many different faiths, and it was secular in nature)

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is MUSLIM. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.' (He doesn't conceal anything about it. He even addresses his background in his books.)

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical. (His handlers don't have to attempt anything, because he isn't a muslim.)

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. (He doesn't even remember his father from that time. There was no influence because his father was no longer observing the Muslim faith.)

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. It wasn't a Wahabi school. There was some introcution to the Wahabi ideas. But the community was untouched by them.)

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. (Indonisia is a great example of how it IS possible for Muslim to merge with the western world. It is a Muslim country by religion, and a completely western world by culture and economics. It shows that that muslim ideals does not have to be incompatable with western ideals.)

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to down play his Muslim background. (He has been a Christian for at least 16 years. It is part of his own growth and has nothing to do with having a Muslim background.)

ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. (This is a complete and utter fabrication. Even if he was muslim and sworn into office with a Koran, who cares. Aren't we supposed to be supporting freedom of religion?)

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence to our flag. THis is not true. He has said the Pledge in public.

While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. This bit come from ONE photo. (If you look at the entire photo, every one has their back to the flag. Obama is not slouching, he has is hands folded at his belt. He is looking, respectfully at the same location as Hillary Clinton is looking. The other man on stage is looking someplace else entirely. Snopes says it is possible that there were other flags off the stage, so the people on stage wouldn't have to turn their backs to the audience.)

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. (There is very little truth in this email and even so, being a muslim, buddist, or wiccan wouldn't mean that a person would be a bad president. We are supposed to support freedom of religion and diversity.)

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level-through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!! (The person who wrote this is a fear mongering idiot.)

Please forward this to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country? (Personally, Obama would be my choice for the democratic runner.)

yzrabbit1's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:36 AM


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama


I stand corrected about you Kenneth. Your a big man to admit that. I see it was misunderstanding and I'm sorry for the things I said to you also

KennethP5206's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:39 AM


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama

As I stand corrected I will keep this and send it to everyone I know, so they know the truth. Again I apollogize to everyone...I did not know and now will make the following corrections.
I hate it when someone sends me something like this and it ends up being a lie...I absolute hate it....Sorry everybody.

KennethP5206's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:40 AM



http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama


I stand corrected about you Kenneth. Your a big man to admit that. I see it was misunderstanding and I'm sorry for the things I said to you also

Me too love you brother yzrabbit

Gumbyvs's photo
Sun 01/27/08 08:52 AM
Edited by Gumbyvs on Sun 01/27/08 08:53 AM
I just enjoy how political discussions with religion mixed in, always bring out the bitterness in people. Makes me happy to know that since the dark ages, not much has changed and nothing is going to change. Even though misinformation fuels a lot of this bitterness, its not the whole reason. Religion and politics just brings out the worst in people, even though religious debates shouldn't, they always end up with bitterness and hatred. But as long as you all are here to play the parts you were born to play, keep it up! I'll still be laughing.

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Sun 01/27/08 09:02 AM



http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama

As I stand corrected I will keep this and send it to everyone I know, so they know the truth. Again I apollogize to everyone...I did not know and now will make the following corrections.
I hate it when someone sends me something like this and it ends up being a lie...I absolute hate it....Sorry everybody.


I am sincerely impressed by your conduct here 'Kenneth'.

To act in a convinced manner, when you are genuinely convinced about something, is not only obvious, it is normal and legitimate.

To intelligently realize that your conviction was founded on incorrect information, to admit it, and furthermore, to correct the false perception, is squarely magnaminous!!!

As I said, sincerely impressed by your conduct.

anoasis's photo
Sun 01/27/08 05:25 PM


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



I stand corrected, and apollogize to everyone involved including Barack Obama


Good for you. So often people cannot admit that they were mistaken. It is a difficult thing to do.

flowerforyou

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