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Topic: souls
maraskia74's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:19 AM
do you think animals have souls?

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Fri 01/25/08 12:22 AM
They have dreams. Makes you wonder sometimes...

ybor363's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:24 AM
I had a long conversation about animal's capabilities to understand the world with a friend once. we talked about it for hours... but that was in my pot smoking days bigsmile .

maraskia74's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:26 AM
lol i have a blue heeler mix i swear if you look in to her eyes you can almost see her past lives, some days when shes sad i just give her a blanket and my favorite shirt to sleep with and shes better


Abracadabra's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:45 AM
Animals are no different from humans in a spiritual sense.

No question about it in my faith (Pantheism)

I once had a blind professor when I was taking a psychology class. He had a seeing-eye-dog that would sleep at the base of his desk while he lectured.

I’ll never forget the lecture when he was stating that animals don’t have the capacity to dream.

He didn’t know it, but his seeing-eye-dog was experiencing a dream at that very moment. The dog was totally asleep and it’s was having rapid-eye-movement that you could tell by just looking at it’s closed eyelids. It was also going through slight ‘running’ motions with all for of it’s legs. Just slight movements but enough that you could tell that this dog was dreaming of running somewhere. The legs were moving in a perfect running motion (just slightly but in perfect timing for a run)

I sat right in the front row no more than 3 feet from the large German Shepard.

If that dog wasn’t dreaming I’ll eat my hat.

Spiritually animals are no differnet from humans as far as I’m concerned. We are just animals. We evolved from lower animals. That’s what we are. We are just highly evolved animals. Period.

We are MAMMALS! In case anyone hasn’t noticed. :wink:

Not all that far removed from Dogs when you stop and think about it. They are MAMMALS too!

People who don’t believe we are animals must really be living in denial. noway

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 01/25/08 02:24 AM
Yup.

OrangeCat's photo
Fri 01/25/08 02:59 AM
yes

cuzimwhiteboy's photo
Fri 01/25/08 03:26 AM
I dunno, but they lack rhythm.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/25/08 03:48 AM
Edited by AllenAqua on Fri 01/25/08 03:49 AM
Hi everyone :smile: I feel they DO have souls because they griev the loss of their family & friends ( I know horses do ) and I think it's just human arrogance to believe less. I was watching a television documentary once about the killing of black bears in the U.S. to supply the aphrodesiac market in China. It seems they think that the potients made from drying & grinding the bears liver will help them be sexually potent.
Anyways, the documentary portrayed this lady interviewer following a bear hunter in North Carolina around while he was doing his grizzly business of killing, gutting, & taking the poor animal's body parts to a central location where they were sold wholesale to be shipped. At one point during the end of the interview she asked the hunter (a tobacco chewing good ol boy) "don't you think it might be wrong to kill these bears since you don't believe, as the Chinese do, that there is any truth to the belief about their livers actually being an aphrodesiac ? " his answer was that " hell no, it ain't wrong, those bears don't have no souls" as he said those chilling words, the camera pans to the gory remains of the slaughtered bears and shows him spitting out a big mouthful of tobacco juice onto them. Now I ask you folks...who is the one that doesn't have a soul ?


sorry all...this one hits too close to home for mehuh :angry: :cry: :angry:

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Fri 01/25/08 05:09 AM
every creature alive has a suppose soul ...people try to deny this so they won't feel to guilty about eating them ..ummm tasty

Suzanne20's photo
Fri 01/25/08 05:11 AM
Undecided

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Fri 01/25/08 06:10 AM
Yes, the soul is what animates the body, the Hebrews called it Nephesh (breath).

yzrabbit1's photo
Fri 01/25/08 07:53 AM

I don't care if they do they are delicious and I am going to keep eating them



If you guys don't like that you can eat me.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 01/25/08 08:58 AM
yz Hasenpfeffer?

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Fri 01/25/08 10:06 AM

yz Hasenpfeffer?


no thank you...but maybe a bit of the rabbit perhaps

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/25/08 11:13 AM


yz Hasenpfeffer?


no thank you...but maybe a bit of the rabbit perhaps




I guess that's what I get for taking the question seriously

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Fri 01/25/08 11:57 AM



yz Hasenpfeffer?


no thank you...but maybe a bit of the rabbit perhaps




I guess that's what I get for taking the question seriously


you were getting PETA seriously

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:05 PM




yz Hasenpfeffer?


no thank you...but maybe a bit of the rabbit perhaps




I guess that's what I get for taking the question seriously





you were getting PETA seriously




sorry bout that. I just don't believe in needless killing.

btw, I'm a PETA member

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Fri 01/25/08 12:10 PM





yz Hasenpfeffer?


no thank you...but maybe a bit of the rabbit perhaps




I guess that's what I get for taking the question seriously





you were getting PETA seriously




sorry bout that. I just don't believe in needless killing.

btw, I'm a PETA member


it was obvious

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 01/25/08 12:15 PM
I'll take that as a compliment, tyvmdrinker

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