Topic: WAR/IRAQ
Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/05/06 01:11 AM
L

karmafury's photo
Tue 12/05/06 01:14 AM
C'mon Fanta. You must have an opinion on this as an old groundpounder.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/05/06 01:22 AM
333

karmafury's photo
Tue 12/05/06 01:25 AM
I thought bush and therefore by association this war were evil. That's
666 not 333.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/05/06 01:36 AM
Probably

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Tue 12/05/06 06:19 AM
Just another Canadian opinion on the subject...

Although now that Harper is sleeping with Bush.. and the Canadian's are
the heaviest hit with casualities... I think that gives us Canucks
permission to a voice too....

For the Record.. Canadians are Fence sitters.. we're the 'Neutral'
country and have been for centuries.. a status MOST of us are VERY happy
about... we've always been Liberal minded enough to Live and Let Live!!!
Also.. we're huge supports of 'peace and prosperity' wherein we enourage
those that need and ask for our help!! but this is getting a little
ridiculous.. because of Harpers 'right wing' ideals (or so stated in
yesterdays caucus) we've been put in a perilous position and are being
used for target practice!!

I am against war.. I was around during Vietman.. THAT was a mistake..
and so is this!! Bush now states that in order to finish this war for
the USA and come home, they have to TEACH them to fight for themselves..
but isn't history repeating itself..??? or am I just not reading things
right.. didn't another Bush administration 'educate' Sadam Hussain in
the 'lessons in combat' AND Arm him?? and what was the result of that???
The student turned on the Teacher!!

I wonder if ONE day.. we will LEARN from our Mistakes?!!

SJR2's photo
Tue 12/05/06 07:03 AM
doesnt anyone realize it was big moneymaking scam? knock sudaam out take
his oil meanwhile bush makes a killing bacause he has stocks in military
equipment. war = $$

SJR2's photo
Tue 12/05/06 07:07 AM
i think osama and bush set the whole thing up. we still havent caught
him, or are we even really trying?

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Tue 12/05/06 07:17 AM
I agree S... war IS Money!! the sad part is.. since the war started..
the US dollar has dropped below the .10 mark.. where prior too, it was
at the .24 cents on a dollar CDN.. they MAY be making money on the
sly... but the US economy is huring cuz of it... overall!!

There does seem to be a slight rise in the exchange now.. due probably
to the notion all the soldiers will be coming home soon... or at least
that's the impression they're giving..

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Tue 12/05/06 07:22 AM
Do y'all realize, Canada is the ONLY country that ever gained its
independence just by asking nicely? LOL

Anyway back to the topic. I've said this in a previous thread but it
bears mentioning again. What is the US gonna do, once a new "democracy"
is set up in Iraq, if a short time down the road the ppl freely elect a
gov't that is unfriendly toward the US? They are going to have to
maintain a military force in Iraq forever, to keep its puppet regime
propped up.

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Tue 12/05/06 07:29 AM
OR... abandon them altogether and have them plot against North America!!

as previously stated... History WILL repeat itself over and over again..
until the Chain is Stopped and we actually LEARN from our mistakes!! (or
elect someone that has a better learning curve... :o)

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Tue 12/05/06 09:54 AM
i see miss know it all is on here!

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Tue 12/05/06 10:26 AM
I'm sorry.. was that directed at me?? the Miss Know it All??

If not.. my bad..

if YES..

I DON'T pretend to know Everything.. I just like staying informed about
situations that are Life Changing!! and War I'm afraid.. affect's us
all!!

karmafury's photo
Tue 12/05/06 10:47 AM
The ones most affected by war are the troops doing the fighting and
their families. The best thing civilian population can do is support
their troops. When civilians stop supporting their troops morale drops
and leads to more casualties.

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Tue 12/05/06 10:55 AM
your quite right karma, but here's the conundrum. In order to support
the troops, SOME ppl think you have to support the war as well. Or else
keep our freedom of speech to ourselves.

karmafury's photo
Tue 12/05/06 10:59 AM
The problem is that as with Vietnam the media reports the worst. This
brings the civilian population to turn a blind eye to whatever good
happens. People then cease to support troops leading,as mentioned, to
casualties. Vietnam was lost by politicians and media not by the troops.

PublicAnimalNo9's photo
Tue 12/05/06 11:17 AM
Quite right. The US NEVER lost a large unit battle in 'Nam. Every
battalion sized battle or bigger, the US kicked ass and kicked it hard.
Prime example of how one can win all the major battles and still lose
the war. Then again, it IS hard to win when major tactical decisions
have to come from half a world away from somebody who hasn't got clue
what the situation looks like. War has become very fluid, with
situations changing by the minute in combat. You NEED to have the
commanders in the field(preferably the ones on the front line) making
tactical decisions on the spot, no matter how big or small.

The media too is to blame. They have spent far too long earning their
living showing bad news. Sensationalism garners more viewers than
showing troops giving food to the children or helping a civilian re-open
a damaged well or whatever.

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Tue 12/05/06 11:26 AM
one can assume that the media is playing sensationalism only to attract
the viewers by adding a more 'entertaining' view of things.. the media
however does not ALways decide what they can and cannot air.. the more
'humane' segments are less 'attractive' to the average viewer/reader!!
and what we may deam 'the real good stuff' usually gets lost on the
cutting room floor or in the back pages of the paper!!

Sad... but true..

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Tue 12/05/06 03:24 PM
.... doesent matter now why we are there anyway. What matters now is
that we are there. playing the blame game now is counterproductive.
What is the right course of action now? If we pull out now, we loose.
That is the Sad truth. We are there for the duration now.

karmafury's photo
Tue 12/05/06 04:58 PM
True words indeed Rambill. Now as back then remains the question of long
before the media rips the guts from the morale of the troops.