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Creationists and other brands of 'believers' insist on holding this false debate about 'evolution' on the foundation of competing 'beliefs' or 'faith'!!! Other brands of 'believers', meaning those whom collapse 'reality' and a word for word interpretation of the bible, as one and the same. Through a very particular spriritual phenomenon known as revelation, some become convinced of a particular 'revealed' truth. That is what is referred to as a belief. Such a 'revealed' truth, or belief, deals with collapsing the word for word meaning of a book, as the word of 'god'. That is a revealed belief, and people are free to beleive such revelations. Regardless of the belief in the end, it remains what it is: A 'REVELATION BASED BELIEF'. Based on the intangible. Based on faith. Faith, revelations and emerging beliefs, do not belong to the 'material', physical, or factual domain. Faith, revelations, and beliefs cannot be proven, nor can they be demonstrated to be scientifically true. If they were, think of it for a moment, THEY NO LONGER WOULD BE BELIEFS, ... THEY WOULD BE HARD FACTS!!! On the opposite side of the spectrum, facts never require FAITH, nor do they require any form of REVELATIONS to be demonstrated!!! Moreover, anyone presenting as a fact, something which was based on some sort of revelation, would see this alledged 'fact' relegated to domain of belief, and religious practice. No need to feel offended!!! Facts cannot attack religious beliefs, and religious beliefs cannot attack facts. There are no common denominators to connect the two domains. No amount of insinstance on the part of false phophets claiming that their beliefs are 'facts', will change this possible god given reality, that 'evolution' will never be a matter of faith, and creationism will never be a matter of fact nor science. The confusion between fact and belief, religion and science, was possibly legitimate and excusable throughout the 'dark ages'; lack of education, lack of information, etc. In 2007, confusion is no longer possible. To insist on perverting faith into fact, and and fact into faith is downright dishonest, and litterally laced with 'BAD FAITH'.  Seriously. In order for evolution to be true you will need to have (emphasis on HAVE) actual MISSING LINKS. But you dont. When ever some scientist comes along with an idea of HOW X could have evolved its almost always stated as "this explains how X could" COULD. SPECULATION taken as TRUTH. What does THAT say about the scientific approach of tested until VALID? EVen if you DID find something that could be credible as a 'missing link', in order for it to be UNDENIABLE this what would have to be presented: Monkey - Us. Monkey -(credible missing link) - Us : this missing link ALONE will NOT be enough to prove that we have come from simple, to more complex. hence it would have to repeat[/] TWICE again: Monk (NEW credible missing link [A]) - Original credible missing link - (ANOTHRE NEW credible missing link ) - Us. And the process of finding Links between links will go on and on until it is UNDENIABLE that we evolved. By your idea here black holes don't exist either cause no one "has" one. |
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yzrabbit1, You expect me to take any of your posts seriously when you start a thread claiming Jesus was not God by posting a out of context verse; which you claimed was state by Jesus meanwhile was actually Daniel? Why should I take anything you say as credible? What are you talking about? |
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Love and Dragoness. Man, that sounds like a good title for a song. Ayway, thanks for your input and proving what I believe.
In case anyone hasn't gotten it, yet, I am evolution. You should have seen be 21 years ago. You'd believe it, too! I am not here to change minds. I love all of you the same, that not saying much cause I certainly don't love you like my children..... Seeek and you will find, knock and it shall be opened. Maybe try the doorbell. Bearsman |
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Put me down for the great flood, the garden of Eden, Adam in god's image, and the fabrication of Eve out of a 'rib' from Adam's thorax... It's so much simpler this way!!! Yeah really. One nice thing about Linus is that he kept his security blanket to himself. The problem with proselytizers is that they are always trying to get everyone else to suck their thumbs for them.  |
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Put me down for the great flood, the garden of Eden, Adam in god's image, and the fabrication of Eve out of a 'rib' from Adam's thorax... It's so much simpler this way!!! Yeah really. One nice thing about Linus is that he kept his security blanket to himself. The problem with proselytizers is that they are always trying to get everyone else to suck their thumbs for them.  Love that one!
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Yeah really. One nice thing about Linus is that he kept his security blanket to himself. The problem with proselytizers is that they are always trying to get everyone else to suck their thumbs for them. Hey, I resemble that remark!!!! Bearsman |
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Yeah really. One nice thing about Linus is that he kept his security blanket to himself. The problem with proselytizers is that they are always trying to get everyone else to suck their thumbs for them. Hey, I resemble that remark!!!! Bearsman |
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yzrabbit1, You expect me to take any of your posts seriously when you start a thread claiming Jesus was not God by posting a out of context verse; which you claimed was state by Jesus meanwhile was actually Daniel? Why should I take anything you say as credible? What are you talking about? Memory loss? or something more serious? http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/56268 |
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If I was in charge of my own evolution, I would have definitely kept the wings. This whole retarded argument is like watching kids argue on the playground. Evolution has no solid case and anyone willing to look at the facts of DNA would have to come to that conclusion. On the other hand, I don't exspect anyone who hasn't experienced what God is for themselves to understand. That's Gods job. Why aren't we seeing mixes of DNA right now and intermitant species and different levels of man. Because there isn't any and never will be. My faith has had oodles of physically manifested and supernatural evidence, but all you weazers can say and ever have said is "good for you, if it works for you". Du-uh, a miracle slaps you in the face and you STILL deny it, how stupid can a smart man be. Cop outs. I see Abra is still fighting himself. THEY buggin you Abra?   Well said. Bone of Contention goes in DNA and mutations as well. but no one here as the guts to check it out. |
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Love and Dragoness. Man, that sounds like a good title for a song. Ayway, thanks for your input and proving what I believe. In case anyone hasn't gotten it, yet, I am evolution. You should have seen be 21 years ago. You'd believe it, too! I am not here to change minds. I love all of you the same, that not saying much cause I certainly don't love you like my children..... Seeek and you will find, knock and it shall be opened. Maybe try the doorbell. Bearsman I am not sure what you are talking about, how I proved something for you but if I helped you out, good. I, in return got nothing from you that I haven't heard before. Not saying bad because you have the right to however you believe. But a revelation it wasn't. I can hardly wait for the evolution of religion. What will be the next one?? I wonder......christianity has been pretty powerful at beating down the other religions and claiming their self-made position as the one true religion. What will be the new evolved religion? What epiphany will happen? Will it be the fact that 2000 years from now they will still be calling every year the last year before their savior comes for them? Or will it be the fact that we will by then have traveled farther into the universe and it will become clear that evolution is more a fact than before? Will we have become a loving people with no need to judge others by skin, sexual orientation, background, lifestyle, religion, status, etc....? What will it be? |
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yzrabbit1, You expect me to take any of your posts seriously when you start a thread claiming Jesus was not God by posting a out of context verse; which you claimed was state by Jesus meanwhile was actually Daniel? Why should I take anything you say as credible? What are you talking about? Memory loss? or something more serious? http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/56268 Matthew 27:46 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi,[a] lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Suprise! I know more about your religion then you. |
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'bearman' wrote ;
God is Love. Let us not forget. LOVE is love!!! As for 'god', it is whatever people whom claim to believe, make of it. And I believe those 'god' believers have made 'god' into many other things besides love. The more the believers shout, fight and argue for the exclusive love that THEIR 'god' is so full of', the less love there appears to be!!! |
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Blood clotting just POPPED out of nowhere did it? Just like the universe? Seriously. Have you been able to answer Funches question? Why arent we told about any of the planets in our solar system in the Bible? How come the Bible didnt predict 9/11 so we could stop it? Why doesnt the Bible tell su exactly how God created everything instead of being 'vague' about it in Genesis? Therefore, by your logic JUST these because these questions cant be answer automatically debunks the bible. Its true that when they say "all the wisdom of man is foolishness to God" You think it’s silly to believe that the universe just POPPED into existence out of nowhere, but the idea that a God just POPPED into existence out of nowhere isn’t a problem. Clearly you have no ability to think deeply. lol you are ahead of yourself Abra. Can you explain the lymphatic system or the circulatory system to a Dog? Doing this way easier than trying to get a human to grasp the concept of Something that has 'always been'. To think that you Abra are capapble of understanding this....who is unable to think deeply now hmm? "Why do you feel so threatened Abra?" Threatened? Don’t flatter yourself. The things you are claiming are simply absurd and totally groundless. I’m just calmly pointing out that fact. keep telling yourself that Abra. If you are so adamant of my errors, read Bone of Contention and be a hero to the scientific world! You seem to be the one who is in a real panic about evolution. You apparently see evolution as a serious threat to your religion. Like if evolution is true then your religion must be false! Actually I LOVE talking about evolution because I see the full picture of it and how impossible and contradictory it is; I get my 'jollies' by provoking thought. Good luck with that one! I dont need luck, I already know that my ground is solid. I’d say you’re in big trouble. Glad it’s not my religion. Yeah i feel sorry for those that still follow this evolution like those fools did back in the days of spontaneous generation.
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I can hardly wait for the evolution of religion. What will be the next one?? I wonder......christianity has been pretty powerful at beating down the other religions and claiming their self-made position as the one true religion. What will be the new evolved religion? What epiphany will happen? Will it be the fact that 2000 years from now they will still be calling every year the last year before their savior comes for them? Or will it be the fact that we will by then have traveled farther into the universe and it will become clear that evolution is more a fact than before? Will we have become a loving people with no need to judge others by skin, sexual orientation, background, lifestyle, religion, status, etc....? What will it be? Its already here! According to a documentary, life on this earth arrived on a commit and we 'evolved' from the lifeforms that were on the commit. Global warming is another cult. But Im sure GW is just as factual as evolution *rolls eyes* see: "global warming, or Global governance?" and "The great global warming swindle" Two documentaries that obliterate GW. I think the next theory is that we are products of a different, superior civilization of ET's. ...which is pretty much scientology. |
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Edited by
yzrabbit1
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Mon 01/21/08 07:06 PM
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yzrabbit1, You expect me to take any of your posts seriously when you start a thread claiming Jesus was not God by posting a out of context verse; which you claimed was state by Jesus meanwhile was actually Daniel? Why should I take anything you say as credible? What are you talking about? Memory loss? or something more serious? http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/56268 Matthew 27:46 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi,[a] lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Suprise! I know more about your religion then you |
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Mon 01/21/08 07:06 PM
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Oops! This was an accidental post that just popped into existence from nowhere. Sorry bout that.
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ANOTHER ONE???????????? OH OK, I'll read, but I have homework, I may have to cut & paste replies for the last 6 or 8 threads on this subject.
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Edited by
yzrabbit1
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Mon 01/21/08 07:19 PM
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Matthew 27:46 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi,[a] lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Um no you dont actually, because if you did, you'd be a Christian. My apologies, my search of that verse came to this: Psalm 22 For the director of music. To the tune of "The Doe of the Morning." A psalm of David. 1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Suprise! I know more about your religion then you. LOL, dont wet your pants with excitement just ye rabbi, your wrong again: "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this? First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?". Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22. -http://www.carm.org/questions/why_forsake_me.htm |
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Oops! This was an accidental post that just popped into existence from nowhere. Sorry bout that. what a waste of a 3000th post! |
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