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28 November 2006
Jesus will search your kidneys

I [Jesus] am he which searcheth the reins [kidneys] and hearts. Revelation 2:23

Yes, it's true. Jesus is going to search through your kidneys. And if he doesn't like what he finds there, he's going to send you to hell.

You see, according to the Bible, your conscience is in your kidneys (called "reins" in the King James Version). So by inspecting them, Jesus can tell if you've been naughty or nice.

Here are some other verses that give a God's eye view of kidneys.

Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. Psalm 7:9

I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons. Pslam 16:7

Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart. Psalm 26:2

Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins. Psalm 73:21

Yea, my reins shall rejoice, when thy lips speak right things. Proverbs 23:16

But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart. Jeremiah 11:20

I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. Jeremiah 17:10

But, O LORD of hosts, that triest the righteous, and seest the reins and the heart. Jeremiah 20:12



http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/11/jesus-will-search-your-kidneys.html

To you believers does it matter that this says kidneys and something we would think is silly today?

Hmmmm....so sort of like a urine test? Those ar given all the time to see if we are drug and alcohol free. Just saying...to see if we have been nice.
Kat

These are written so long ago before man had any understanding of the body. So maybe to them that was your soul??? Ya think????

Holy urine test Batman

well........

if we play with the figurative and the literal then lets play with it all

In the OT, or Torah, there is a descrption of the inheritance of the half tribe of Manasseh that didn't cross the Jordan into the promised land at the behest of Joshua and Caleb and the description of which holds are a greater meaning when transliterated in concise conformity of the figurative vs, the literal.

here it is....

"The cords of forgiveness are like the parched end of a rope in a dry well whose waters have gone out to sea."

These are the borders of the land of inheritance for any?


hhmmmmm...............

I wonder, then, what are the borders of all those that DO enter the "promised land"?


Kidneys , indeed.

let us cleanse our inward parts on a spiritual level then, as well.

The Bible merely reflects that ancient view, not modern scientific views. What science eventually did was to explore that quiet organ, THE BRAIN, and understand it's necessity for the "life" of people's emotions and decision-making abilities, and also to run all the other organs, via the nervous system. The Bible authors were ignorant of the primacy of the "brain and nervous system," and hence the Bible does not draw any concerted attention to the brain, but instead mimics the old ancient pre-scientific ways of envisioning "life" as being directed by the "heart," depending on the "blood" and "breath," not to forget the fact that the Biblical authors also believed that other organs also "directed" human being, like the "kidneys and bowels":

My bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the Lord Jer. 31:20.
Be ye straitened [restrained] in your own bowels 2 Cor. 6:12.
I long after you in the bowels [affection] of Christ Philip. 1:8.
The bowels of the saints are refreshed.... Refresh my bowels in the Lord Philemon 7:20.
Shutteth up his bowels of compassion 1 John 3:17.

Bowels as in "that sick feeling we can get when something is wrong" or "that excited feeling we can get when good things happen".
Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins [Latin, renes, which means kidneys, a literal translation of the Hebrew] Ps. 73:21.
My reins [kidneys] also instruct me in the night seasons Ps. 16:7.
Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the heart and reins [kidneys] Ps. 7:9.
Yea, my reins [kidneys] shall rejoice when my lips speak right things Prov. 23:16.
I am He [God] which searcheth the reins [kidneys] and hearts Rev. 2:23.

The Talmud says that one kidney prompts man to do good, the other to do evil. The kidneys (among other organs, yet excluding the brain) were especially reserved for Yahweh and sacrificed to Him as a burnt offering Lev. 3:4-5. Even if the Hebrews regarded this insight into the kidneys as "pure poetry" (which is doubtful, based on historical comparisons, and since figures of speech have to originate from ideas), it is a poetry that no longer survives or interests mankind. In fact, in the above verses the Hebrew word for kidneys has been translated soul in modern English Bibles to avoid cumbersome explanations of why the ancient Hebrews attributed moral significance to a person's kidneys.

Kat

wouldee

Maybe they get a wet well





Kat
Nice info. I would have to agree with you the people who wrote the book obviously did not know the human body.

reins sounds more like that which controls you...I think they were referring to one's mind not kidneys

Rabbi, your boredom is showing.

You need some lyrics to work on or something.

I know it sounds like that. Thats why they left the word in to be ambiguous. If they put in the real word Kidney everyone would ridicule it. It again shows the deception of the bible writers and translators.


This is a link to the definition in answer to Funches below

http://bibletools.org//index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/Easton/ID/3098/Reins.htm

the word for kidneys is renal not reins

Renal is Latin, not Hebrew translated into English.

Don't tell me...

theres going to be a debate over kidneys now...I thought I seen it all up until now

Ain't it a pis*ser!

If my soul is in my kidneys...than its gone already from all the pepsi I drink

So my soul really does bother me about once a night and refuses to let me sleep

LOL. Mine too. Last thing at night. During....and first thing in the morning. Whizzerrrrrrr.........

Kat

Yes exactly. The bible has been written and translated so many times over the course of 2000 years that you can't take everything as a complete truth. There were parts removed and most likely parts added. There was a time when most people couldn't read and it was monks of the church that made copies of the book. Thats why I like to look into things such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Judas.

The people that wrote the book were human not divine.

Couldn't agree with you more Chazster