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Topic: Why Do Non Believers Stay In The Religious Chat Forums?
iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:38 PM
Edited by iamgeorgiagirl on Wed 01/02/08 05:59 PM
I am not saying any particular person should or should't be in the forum. I am just wondering why they want to belittle others and be so arguementative?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:41 PM
smokin Maybe your just taking this too serious.smokin The whole point of this is to have fun right?smokin

Mike91ZX's photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:42 PM
Not trying to disrespect you or be rude, but what you're saying is also rude to those being rude, you should show love, not just love to those who are kind, love to all.

azrae1l's photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:43 PM
hey i get ridiculed and heckled by religious people in the forums all the time cuz i ask questions, maybe they might find them disrespectful cuz it doesn't agree with their views or whatever but it's things i actually wonder about, it was an honest question. and i get back "well your going to hell because you don't believe yadda yadda yadda". so the way i look at it is, if you do it others are going to do it back.

no photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:45 PM
Please read what Mike, one of the admins, posted regarding the rules for the religion forum:

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In this forum, we will not allow users to bash other users for either believing or not believing in a specific religion. (emphasis added)

We know that religion is a topic that many people feel extremely
passionate about, both believers and non-believers. However, if you wish to participate in this forum, discussions must remain civil at ALL times. If you wish to have a reasoned discussion about religion, the existence or non-existence of God, etc., you may do so, (emphasis added) but users who resort to insults or attacks in either direction as part of these discussions will be banned without notice.

Also, topics which are designated for response exclusively from one religion or belief system, or which may cause that type of polarization, will be deleted. The concept behind these forums is to encourage anyone to participate and post their opinions and thoughts as long as they are on-topic. (emphasis added) Topics which do not adhere to that philosophy will be removed, and the poster may lose his/her posting privileges.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Ergo, non-believers are allowed to be in this forum.


steelangel's photo
Wed 01/02/08 05:48 PM
While I understand where you're coming from, please keep in mind that most people who are "unbelievers" (as you so belittle them) find religion to be a joke - so ticking off the "bible-toting bigots" is a game to them. I myself would never take anything on this site seriously, nor much of anything on the internet. If someone says they want to meet me they'd better tell me how they feel face to face - I'm not falling in love with their screenname. The cool thing about the digital world is it offers a facade for you to throw sh** at people and then hide behind an avatar. Forums are full of people spreading crap because they don't have anything better to do or for people like myself, who find a few minutes out of their day to entertain themselves watching the stupid posts that other people put up.

So - First of all:

IF YOU'Re POSTING RELIGIOUS ANYTHINGS ON THIS SITE:
Umm... Dating site. Look it up, define it.

IF YOU'RE OFFENDED BY RELIGIOUS POSTINGS ON THIS SITE:
Dee-dee-dee. Here's your sign. You might be a redneck.

Anyone still confused?

KerryO's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:04 PM

I am not saying any particular person should or should't be in the forum. I am just wondering why they want to belittle others and be so arguementative?


Wow, major edit from the first version of this OP. Given that first version, I'd like to hear your comments on the thread entitled "Pray that all courts think this way." It's OP said this:

" In Florida, an atheist became incensed over the preparation of Easter
and Passover holidays. He decided to contact his lawyer about the
discrimination inflicted on atheists by the constant celebrations
afforded to Christians and Jews with all their holidays while
atheists had no holiday to celebrate.

The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the long
passionate presentation by the lawyer, the Judge banged his gavel and
declared, 'Case dismissed!'

The lawyer immediately stood and objected to the ruling and said,
“Your honor, how can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians
have Christmas, Easter and many other observances. Jews have
Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah...yet my client and all other
atheists have no such holiday!”

The judge leaned forward in his chair and simply said, 'Obviously
your client is too confused to even know about, much less celebrate
his own atheists' holiday!'

The lawyer pompously said, 'Your Honor, we are unaware of any such
holiday for atheists. Just when might that holiday be, your Honor?'

The judge said, 'Well it comes every year on exactly the same
date---April 1st! Since our calendar sets April 1st as ' April Fools
Day,' consider that Psalm 14:1 states, 'The fool says in his heart,
there is no God.' Thus, in my opinion, if your client says there is
no God, then by scripture , he is a fool, and April 1st is his
holiday! Now have a good day and get out of my courtroom! "

Works both ways, doesn't it?

-Kerry O.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:11 PM
Though I'm not real religious,
I consider myself Christian,
at least that's the belief
system I most identify with.

But if either believers or
non-believers show intolerance
for each other, it inhibits
the dialogue.

For Christians, the sin of Pride
enters in when they judge others.

In the Bible there is a quote:
"Why do you look at the speck
that is in your brother's eye,
but do not notice the log that
is in your own eye?" (or words
to that effect).

The point is, people have reasons
for why they believe, or do not
believe, and we should try to
understand them.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:21 PM
Well, there are several reasons.

1. There is no philosophy and/or science topic.

2. If there were, I'm sure the fundies would feel free to jump right in and try to discredit evolution. After all they see no reason to stay away from the topic that DON'T specifically include religion.

3. There are simply some philisophical topics that get much better responce in the religion catagory.

4. There are some people genuinely interested in what others believe and how they came by those beliefs.

FINALLY, in your opening post, you don't specify "believer" in what. So in these religion threads, there are many more believers - than just those who believe as YOU DO.

We all make mistakes, but it helps sometime to think about a bigger picture, before making a little comment!



Jess642's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:22 PM
Because we dont have a forum, and even non believers, are in a sense, a form of religion...


OMFG!!! Did I just say that???????noway noway noway

Someone cut out my tongue!!!!!!!!!!! :tongue: laugh laugh laugh :wink:

iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:22 PM
Maybe I do take some of the bashing I've seen here too seriously. I understand everyone has a right to believe whatever they choose to. Maybe I am the one who should stay out of the religious forum.

iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Wed 01/02/08 06:29 PM

Because we dont have a forum, and even non believers, are in a sense, a form of religion...


OMFG!!! Did I just say that???????noway noway noway

Someone cut out my tongue!!!!!!!!!!! :tongue: laugh laugh laugh :wink:
He He! I guess you are right about that. It just bothers me to see anyone bashed for their beliefs when nobody really knows who is right or wrong. blushing

sealove42's photo
Wed 01/02/08 08:12 PM
lol

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 01/02/08 08:46 PM
What's a "fundie"?

Kat

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 01/02/08 08:46 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Wed 01/02/08 08:47 PM
What's a "fundie"?

Kat

And why did that post twice??

andreajayne's photo
Wed 01/02/08 08:51 PM
Your headline to this one caught my attention, so I thought I would put my statment in, and say it doesn't apply to me. laugh I don't believe there for I stay away. I don't like people telling me what to believe, so I don't tell other people!

iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Wed 01/02/08 09:38 PM

Your headline to this one caught my attention, so I thought I would put my statment in, and say it doesn't apply to me. laugh I don't believe there for I stay away. I don't like people telling me what to believe, so I don't tell other people!
That is really how it should be...I don't mind explaining to someone how or why I believe what I do or listen to why they believe what they do...but I am appalled to see how some people come in here just to ridicule others for what they believe and make fun of them for it or just to be cruel. I guess I take it too seriously. Others see it as entertaining. It is so easy to offend people especially regarding religion... but everyone has to draw a line somewhere. I used to believe there was a Santa Claus too but I don't want to bash the people who still believe there is one...or go into his space and denounce him to those who believe in him either...it is just mean. I can understand a plethora of reasons why people don't believe but I don't understand why others feel compelled to bash them for it. After all no one can prove most of anything here beyond a shadow of a doubt either way.

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 01/02/08 09:49 PM
flowerforyou Most that post in the forums that do not believe in God ( the way we do )are simply not as the same belief as some of us. The intelligent ones just want to make sure we have all the reasoning's why they do not and maybe give us some of their insight as to why they do not. Either giving us reason to question our beliefs for answers or strenghening it.
Some have great input and cause for some great debates.
Then there are those that just haven't a clue. Control becomes their issue therefore causing chaos, or trying to.

It is all good here. Really it is. Stick around and have some great chats.
Keep to your convictions and just listen. Think for yourself and don't worry about it. If your belief has much strength, it will not falter.

Kat

no photo
Thu 01/03/08 05:59 AM

I am not saying any particular person should or should't be in the forum. I am just wondering why they want to belittle others and be so arguementative?


well someone has to keep an eye of you religious people so you won't resort back to torturing and murdering heretics like in the olden days

Differentkindofwench's photo
Thu 01/03/08 06:29 AM
Steel, I think you're making a whole new comic or you're only showing one half of the tour. Ya kinda put Bill and Jeff together there...:wink:

The religion forum is not a religion specific forum. Different religions and paths of life are going to encounter each other. I think education wise this is a good thing. By having different religious and non-religious people talk and see the "human"ness of each other, this just might be a way to get religions out of the them and us mentality and take it to a, "Hey, there is a PERSON holding that belief." and may be even a realization that the person and the religion is so very much more than you would have otherwise been aware of.

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