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Topic: WAR IN ISRAEL!
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Sat 12/02/23 07:33 PM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 12/02/23 07:36 PM

This is what actually happened in Gaza
The oppressed Palestinians triumphed over arrogant Israel
Israel did not win, even though it killed more people and destroyed half of Gaza’s homes with the support of many countries, led by America, and Israel failed militarily and politically.



you dont know history do you.

Arab armies for forcing Palestinians to leave, promising they could shortly return. 1949

ARAB countries lied to the Palestinians saying they could return. they are still lying to them.

arab countries do not care for the palestines, you do but you dont know history.

all the money get they turn into bombs, we give them more, they turn into weapons.

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Sat 12/02/23 09:31 PM


This is what actually happened in Gaza
The oppressed Palestinians triumphed over arrogant Israel
Israel did not win, even though it killed more people and destroyed half of Gaza’s homes with the support of many countries, led by America, and Israel failed militarily and politically.



you dont know history do you.

Arab armies for forcing Palestinians to leave, promising they could shortly return. 1949

ARAB countries lied to the Palestinians saying they could return. they are still lying to them.

arab countries do not care for the palestines, you do but you dont know history.

all the money get they turn into bombs, we give them more, they turn into weapons.


this is what Israel says not the facts

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Sat 12/02/23 10:28 PM
History of the Question of Palestine
At the end of the First World War, Palestine was among the several former Ottoman Arab territories which were made mandated territories by the League of Nations. The relevant provisions of the League’s Covenant (Article 22) referred to these territories as “certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire [which] have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative assistance and advice by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory”.
All but one of these Mandated Territories (categorized as class “A” Mandates) whose independence was provisionally recognized became fully independent States, as anticipated. The exception was Palestine where, instead of being limited to “the rendering of administrative assistance and advice” the Mandate had as a primary aim the implementation of the “Balfour Declaration” issued by the British Government in 1917, conveying that Government’s support for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”. This commitment was included in the mandate for Palestine, formally allotted in 1922 to Great Britain by the League of Nations, without having ascertained the wishes of the Palestinian people, as required by the Covenant.
During the 25 years of the Palestine Mandate, from 1922 to 1947, large-scale Jewish immigration from abroad, mainly from Eastern Europe took place, the numbers swelling in the 1930s with the notorious Nazi persecution of Jewry. Over this period the Jewish population of Palestine, composed principally of immigrants, increased from less than 10 per cent in 1917 to over 30 per cent in 1947. Palestinian demands for independence and resistance to Jewish immigration led to a rebellion in 1937, followed by continuing terrorism and violence from both sides during and immediately after the Second World War. Great Britain, as the Mandatory Power, tried to implement various formulas to bring independence to a land ravaged by violence. A partition scheme, a formula for provincial autonomy, a unified independent Palestine were all considered and abandoned, and in 1947, Great Britain in frustration turned the problem over to the United Nations.

https://www.un.org/unispal/history/

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Sat 12/02/23 10:48 PM
In 1917, the Balfour Declaration declared British support for a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine. The declaration was made in a letter written by Britain's then-Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour, to Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Zionist movement. The letter was endorsed by Britain's then-Prime Minister David Lloyd George, who became a Zionist in 1915.

How Did Balfour Declaration Change History of Palestine?
The British started facilitating the immigration of European Jews to Palestine. The Jewish population increased from 9% to over 27% of the total population between 1922 and 1935.
The British mandate was designed to offer Jews the ability to establish self-rule at the expense of Palestinian Arabs, despite the caveat in the Balfour Declaration that "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.

https://sputniknews.in/20231027/how-the-balfour-declaration-changed-the-history-of-palestine-5077330.html

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Sun 12/03/23 01:50 AM
Many comments here are way off, especially you who don't know Biblical History. This is about the Prophecy of Israel. No Mideastern country especially like Iran will win against Israel. Never will they win because they worship false gods.

Study your Bible. Land was given by God to Israel.
Jehovah God is the one who is Almighty.
Actually a Biblical Topic.
Learn what is factual.

then war is inevitable to Israel as prophesied, correct?

so, we can't do about it but collectively pray that it will be over soon and no more innocent lives will be sacrificed.

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Sun 12/03/23 01:02 PM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 12/03/23 01:03 PM
On Wednesday (18/10/2023), Egyptian President Abdel Fatah el-Sisi stated in a speech that Israel's war is not only to combat Hamas, but also to encourage Palestinian residents to move to Egypt. This action could threaten peace in the Middle East region. Earlier, Jordan's King Abdullah II emphasized that no refugees (from Palestine) would be allowed into Jordan or Egypt.

so agian refused

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Mon 12/04/23 01:02 AM
The Palestinians have the right to remain on their land. Forcing them to leave by force is considered a war crime committed by Israelز

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Mon 12/04/23 12:17 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 12/04/23 12:20 PM
i told you the history of them, the left the arab countries, promised they could return, week later the Arab counties denied them back in their own country.

you watch too much fake news.

i know you hate isreal i already know that, it is a given even though they only protected themselves, so your blinded by your hate to see the truth.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/23/analysis-two-million-human-bargaining-chips

They naively suggest that if borders were opened, then civilians could depart, leaving the fighters aligned with Hamas and other armed Palestinian factions behind, so Israel could defeat them militarily, remove the threat and let the civilians back in.

That is just uninformed jumble and wishful thinking, without the remotest connection to reality.

Most ordinary Palestinians feel very strongly that despite all the horrors they are enduring these days, they should remain in the Gaza Strip. At the same time, neighbouring states feel that they could not afford to take in two million more refugees.

see i have a friend he has family over in the philistines and knows people in the military. he siad this is the website that is 100 percent accrute. you never benn over there so you only guessing. i work with the guy so i know.
for he has family on that side of the world, so he tell me things, and yes he is a muslium.

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Tue 12/05/23 10:06 PM

i told you the history of them, the left the arab countries, promised they could return, week later the Arab counties denied them back in their own country.

i know you hate isreal i already know that, it is a given even though they only protected themselves, so your blinded by your hate to see the truth.




I do not hate Israel.
The problem continues because America and Israel rejected the United Nations resolution regarding “two states, Israel and Palestine,” side by side within safe and recognized borders, and the borders of the State of Palestine will be “based on the pre-1967 borders.” In addition to "a just solution to the Palestinian refugee issue in accordance with United Nations Resolution No. 194."

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Wed 12/06/23 05:41 AM


i told you the history of them, the left the arab countries, promised they could return, week later the Arab counties denied them back in their own country.

i know you hate isreal i already know that, it is a given even though they only protected themselves, so your blinded by your hate to see the truth.




I do not hate Israel.
The problem continues because America and Israel rejected the United Nations resolution regarding “two states, Israel and Palestine,” side by side within safe and recognized borders, and the borders of the State of Palestine will be “based on the pre-1967 borders.” In addition to "a just solution to the Palestinian refugee issue in accordance with United Nations Resolution No. 194."

What makes you think a two state rule would solve the problem between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Since there are no Israeli military or government personnel in Gaza before the war started, they were basically living in a two state system . It was Hamas terrorists, supported by Palestinians that broke thru the secure border barrier ,went in to Israel , and slaughtered innocent women and children and took hostages . The women and young girls are probably being raped everyday by these terrorists . There is no argument over the atrocities committed on oct. 7…and the statement from Hamas leaders to continue these attacks against Israel… So I ask you what is the incentive for the U.S or Israel to agree to a two state solution. It would be a destabilizing and devastating policy for the Middle East… I honestly think there will never be a true peace between Muslims and Jews.

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Wed 12/06/23 10:08 PM
The two-state solution ends the Arab-Israeli conflict
British writer Matt Hill said that the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is very simple and is the establishment of two neighboring states, one for the Israelis and the other for the Palestinians.
He explained that there is a comprehensive peace plan through the two-state solution, which receives widespread support, and requires courage from both parties to accept it. It consists of dividing the land between the Israelis and the Palestinians, so that the name of one becomes Israel and the name of the other becomes Palestine, and they live side by side.
The writer added that there are borders between the two sides that are internationally recognized, and they go back to the 1967 borders, which separate the two countries, and the two parties may need to make some amendments or exchange some lands between their countries.

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Wed 12/06/23 11:06 PM
your wrong they never be peace even if palatine was granted it. why in the muslum bible there is the mount. and that is a holy place to them.

the mount that is where the temple will be rebuilt in the tribulation i believe., and that is where satan (antichist will call himself god. and he will deceive and lie to the world. and who get a mark in the forhead or on their arm is doomed for entirety. then armagedon wil comee. 200 milion man army out of the orient i believe.

3rd holy-est place i think in muslium bible is the mount in isreal.

dont know the exact scripture, but cause that alone say they never let isreal be.

and they wont.

god is just siting back and let mans actions explain in thier own actions what they love. Meanwile he does nothing unill isreal gets attaked by gog. when gog dares enter the mountains of isreal then the whole army will be wiped out. thus will bring many to the faith.

By thier own action they be convicted.

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Thu 12/07/23 12:49 AM
The issue of Palestinian refugees
Written by researchers Francesca Albanese, at the Institute for the Study of International Migration, Georgetown University. And Damian Lilly, Head of the Protection Section at UNRWA
The displacement of Palestinians is the largest refugee situation in the world and the longest in duration. In 1948, the State of Israel was established, and the Palestinians’ right to self-determination was denied, their property was robbed, and they were exiled from their land.
Then Israeli laws and policy sealed the fate of the Palestinians, and 750,000 of them became refugees in 1948, as it prevented them from returning to their homes and made them stateless. As for the Palestinians who remained in Israel, Israel did not allow them to become Israeli citizens. Since 1948, the displacement of Palestinians has increased, many of whom still suffer from discrimination, poverty, and loss of rights.
The United Nations General Assembly has taken hundreds of resolutions reaffirming the right of refugees to return to their country, while compensating them for the harm they suffered. The Security Council has repeatedly stressed the need to achieve a just settlement of the refugee issue, but none of these resolutions has been implemented. Negotiations took place that extended for years and years between the two parties, including the Oslo Accords. However, the conditions of the Palestinians did not improve, despite the Palestine Liberation Organization’s recognition of Israel.
Millions of people remained without a political solution. Because the most difficult challenges are the lack of political will, the failure to return homes to their owners, the failure to compensate them for the harm that befell them, and the mass deprivation of citizenship. Then there is the lack of meaningful member state support to ensure the ethical application of international law, so the issue of Palestinian refugees has been left unaddressed.
The 'deal of the century' announced by the US government in 2019 widened the difference between the two teams. So the United Nations refocused the debate on refugee rights, because it is a must.

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Fri 12/08/23 01:37 AM
that is not what happened. again you reading fake stuff.

i know you hate isreal okay, i get that.

so no mater what anyone says you say the opposite cause you hate isreal.

you can see what hammmas did and stated the war.
cause you hate isreal.

so i give up cause i know you always search for biased things.

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Sun 12/10/23 12:37 AM
An Israeli special force tried to free the captured Israeli soldier Sa'ar Baruch, in Gaza.
Hamas broadcast a video of an attempt to free him. At the beginning of the video, Baruch appears talking about his age, his family history, and his place of residence. He said that he is from the Yeri settlement (in the vicinity of the Gaza Strip) and that he wants to return to his home.
After that, Hamas said in writing in the video, “The Zionist force infiltrated the prisoner’s place of detention at dawn through an ambulance and took cover behind humanitarian organizations, in flagrant violation of international law. The force was discovered and dealt with fire. The clash led to the death of the captured soldier, Sa’ar Baruch (25 years old), and the seizure of the force's communication device, weapons and equipment. In the last video clip, the captured soldier Baruch appeared dead, covered in blood.
Simultaneously with the publication of the video, the Israeli army announced that two soldiers were seriously injured during a “failed” operation to release prisoners held by Hamas in Gaza. He added, “No kidnappers were freed in this operation.”
A Hamas spokesman announced that Hamas fighters "thwarted an attempt to free captured soldier Sa'ar Baruch, which led to his death in addition to the killing and wounding of a number of other Israeli prisoners due to the barbaric bombing of the Gaza areas."
Hamas insists on not releasing Israeli prisoners unless Tel Aviv agrees to release Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons.

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Sun 12/10/23 03:47 PM
see no mater what anyone says your mind is made up. just the dems in the united states.

no logic to their side, just hate.

you never will understand,




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Tue 12/12/23 10:59 PM
Edited by LUNG1954 on Tue 12/12/23 11:01 PM
Lebanon

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Tue 12/12/23 10:59 PM
During a tour on the border with Lebanon, the Israeli Minister warned Hezbollah and Lebanon, saying:
“Beirut residents may end up in the same situation as Gaza residents.” He added, "Our large air force is directed towards the north, and we used only 10% in Gaza."
An Israeli raid targeted a pickup truck in an orchard southern Lebanon, about 45 kilometers north of the border. It was the first strike deep into Lebanese territory since the start of the fighting in Gaza.
It is noteworthy that the exchange of bombing and gunfire between the Israeli army and Hezbollah was limited to the border area between Lebanon and Israel, since the beginning of the war in Gaza. However, this is the first time that Israel has carried out a strike against a target so far from the border.
Maronite Patriarch Mar Bechara Boutros visited southern Lebanon to express the presence of the church alongside its children. The Patriarch met with clerics from various sects to confirm their demands calling for the preservation and security of Lebanon.
Their Eminences the Maronite Bishops held their monthly meeting, headed by Patriarch Mar Bishara, and with the participation of the General Superiors of the Maronite Orders. They discussed church and national affairs. At the conclusion of the meeting, they issued a statement that stated the following:
1- The parents express their deep sadness over the war taking place in Gaza, with its terrible tragedies and horrific scourges.
2- The fathers consider that the Lebanese state must be fully characterized by its constitutional institutions, and must have an effective tool to defend the country and its people. He must also be given all necessary means, including weapons, equipment, and others, so that he can carry out his duty in preserving the state and society by spreading security, peace, and reassurance to all the Lebanese people.
3 - As we approach the glorious holidays, the parents hope that the situation in the south will stabilize and peace will return to its villages on the border strip, so that every home can experience the joy of the holiday and enjoy the joy of its lights, and so that our children spread around the world can come to Lebanon and meet their families. Lebanon is counting on their arrival as the basis and support for creating an atmosphere of economic and social stability.

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Tue 12/12/23 11:03 PM
The song Long Live Palestine started in Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0RJEDw_Nag

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Wed 12/13/23 05:48 AM

During a tour on the border with Lebanon, the Israeli Minister warned Hezbollah and Lebanon, saying:
“Beirut residents may end up in the same situation as Gaza residents.” He added, "Our large air force is directed towards the north, and we used only 10% in Gaza."
An Israeli raid targeted a pickup truck in an orchard southern Lebanon, about 45 kilometers north of the border. It was the first strike deep into Lebanese territory since the start of the fighting in Gaza.
It is noteworthy that the exchange of bombing and gunfire between the Israeli army and Hezbollah was limited to the border area between Lebanon and Israel, since the beginning of the war in Gaza. However, this is the first time that Israel has carried out a strike against a target so far from the border.
Maronite Patriarch Mar Bechara Boutros visited southern Lebanon to express the presence of the church alongside its children. The Patriarch met with clerics from various sects to confirm their demands calling for the preservation and security of Lebanon.
Their Eminences the Maronite Bishops held their monthly meeting, headed by Patriarch Mar Bishara, and with the participation of the General Superiors of the Maronite Orders. They discussed church and national affairs. At the conclusion of the meeting, they issued a statement that stated the following:
1- The parents express their deep sadness over the war taking place in Gaza, with its terrible tragedies and horrific scourges.
2- The fathers consider that the Lebanese state must be fully characterized by its constitutional institutions, and must have an effective tool to defend the country and its people. He must also be given all necessary means, including weapons, equipment, and others, so that he can carry out his duty in preserving the state and society by spreading security, peace, and reassurance to all the Lebanese people.
3 - As we approach the glorious holidays, the parents hope that the situation in the south will stabilize and peace will return to its villages on the border strip, so that every home can experience the joy of the holiday and enjoy the joy of its lights, and so that our children spread around the world can come to Lebanon and meet their families. Lebanon is counting on their arrival as the basis and support for creating an atmosphere of economic and social stability.


After reading about all the meetings and discussions between patriarchs and emissary’s , I read nothing about their discussions on how to live side by side in peace with Israel. It seems they count themselves as the victims of current retaliation or future intrusion into Lebanon by Israel to destroy the people that vow to destroy them. You seem to get angered when a church or school or hospital gets damaged from incoming artillery as we all should but where was that anger when Hamas went in Israel without warning and started raping and mutilating and butchering innocent men, women , and children. How could anybody justify these acts commuted by these sub humans animals. Israel is giving a fore warning to the civilians to leave for their own safety and for your information Lebanon has been shelling Israel during this whole war but now they worry that Israel might go in as deep as they need to go to root out their enemy and kill them. Please, this is the war the militant Muslims wanted with Israel and now that they got it they want the rest of the world to bail them out with negotiations and humanitarian efforts for the good of peace in that region. I hope Israel follows thru in their mission to destroy those that refuse to let Israel live in peace.

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