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Topic: Tired cliche to cover big brother agenda doesn't wash anymor
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Wed 11/22/06 04:15 PM
Source:
http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/221106bigbrother.htm

(More Images, Documentation within this live article link above)

"As Long As You're Not Doing Anything Wrong, You Have Nothing To Worry
About"
Tired cliche to cover big brother agenda doesn't wash anymore


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Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, November 22, 2006

I am personally sick of hearing the above phrase used whenever the
latest surveillance tool is trotted out and used on the public as a
means of control. It's worn out and doesn't work anymore. People are
finally beginning to stop laughing at the madness of the big brother
society, but will it be too late when people begin to see the
seriousness of the threat?

Endlessly used as an excuse to pass into everyday use policies and
technology that are eroding our freedoms and giving our governments more
control and responsibility over our lives are phrases such as "Why worry
if you have nothing to hide?"

Since when were long established civil liberties and the citizen's right
to privacy replaced with this "new freedom", this "freedom lite" shall
we call it, this guilty until proven innocent mantra?

The problem lies with what is considered to be "something to hide". I
don't want to be filmed 24 hours a day, everywhere I go, does that mean
I've got something to hide? I don't much like the idea of being
fingerprinted if i want to go into a bar, does that mean I have got
something to hide? Yes, if I am an enemy of the gestapo in the 1930s,
but no if I am a free citizen in 21st century Britain or America.

Lets take a look at a few of the latest headlines to feature in our big
brother news section:

Fox News Trumpets Pentagon Spy Drones Listening In On Americans
"It's the first time anywhere in the United States that one of these big
things has flown on an official air combat command mission," Steve Doocy
noted. Brian Kilmeade followed up: "Well, you know what? I love it. They
gotta be listening in, listening to the right people. If they're
listening in at my house, they're gonna be bored to tears." Doocy jumped
in to say that he "wasn't sure" that the drone could listen in, but
"they can certainly see what's going on in your back yard. ... I don't
think you have anything to worry about as long as you're not doing
anything against the law."

Child database 'will ruin family privacy'
Parents will be devalued and family privacy shattered by the mass
surveillance of all 12 million children in England and Wales, says a
report today commissioned by Parliament's Information Commissioner. In
what is likely to be a major embarrassment to Tony Blair, it says
proposals for a £224 million database containing details of every child
will waste millions of pounds, undermine parental authority and actually
put children in more danger. Mr Blair defended the super nanny idea
saying it was right to give families a "helping hand". "No one's talking
about interfering with normal family life," he added.

Documents show U.S. Defense Department tracked anti-Iraq war activities

An anti-terrorist database used by the Defense Department in an effort
to prevent attacks on military installations included intelligence tips
about antiwar planning meetings held at churches, libraries, college
campuses and other locations, newly disclosed documents show. McPhearson
said he found the references to his group in the Talon database
unsurprising and he said the group continued to use public settings and
the Internet to plan its protests. "We don't have anything to hide," he
said. "We're not doing anything illegal."
So in just three examples there, you could be watched in your own home
by a military surveillance plane, all aspects of your kids' lives could
be put on a database to make sure you are an adequate parent, and if you
don't agree with a government policy you may be surveilled and placed on
an anti-terrorist database. The information gathered will not be
available to you but will be available to the government and the
government's intelligence personnel.

Is all that OK so long as you have "nothing to hide"? Are you
comfortable with that? Some may say "yeah but it probably won't happen
to me." Well, you'll never know until your actions are deemed to be
categorized by the authorities as "something wrong".


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There are those who still deny that we have moved into a big brother
society and that it affects their lives at all. For those who
immediately think this applies to them, please watch this film.

These people, far from living in denial, have just not noticed all the
methods of surveillance that they are under. This is not surprising,
given that the very essance of surveillance is that it is covert. It is
not arrogant or elitist to say this, after all how many people really
know what the TALON programme is or how RFID works?

This is the most dangerous aspect of the big brother society, the fact
that it is creeping and that there is always scope for expansion. How
many times is it relevant to say "this will not erode your liberties"
about another form of surveillance? If you took every aspect of the big
brother society featured in the film linked above and suddenly
introduced it all at once into a society where it was unknown, would the
people therein consider it to be a threat to their liberties?

I think they'd consider it to be an all out war on them.

There is a government ploy of saying that if you have nothing to hide in
our modern society you should react to these measures by being bold, up
front and proud that you are a law abiding citizen, you should revel in
the big brother society and not shrink away and try to avoid it.

In this sense the new forms of technology being used for surveillance
and information gathering are pushed as progressive and a step in the
right direction when they are in fact the exact opposite. Strip away all
the technology and the myth that they keep you any safer (put everything
under surveillance and you end up missing the real threats) and you are
essentially left with a never ending multiplication of methods of
covertly gathering information on everything you do. In a dictatorship
this is progressive, in a free society it is regressive.

chismah's photo
Wed 11/22/06 04:32 PM
VIDEO & ARTICLE: NYPD Installs "Sky Watch" In Harlem Neighborhood -
November 22nd 2006

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/221106skywatch.htm

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Wed 11/22/06 04:36 PM
i didnt read any of your post but i believe we believe in the same
thing. the man is intruding on my privacy way to far...and i dont feel
any safer than i didn on september 11th...and i was on the USS
Enterprise on the 11th(the US carrier not the spaceship)

no photo
Wed 11/22/06 04:45 PM
If your waiting for big brother to make his move..... well hello
they TOOK OVER 80 years ago.
People waiting for the hammer to fall should take note... The
hammer fell 80 years ago and is lying on the ground rusting away.
ANCIENT HISTORY THAT.

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Wed 11/22/06 04:46 PM
hey rambill

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Wed 11/22/06 04:49 PM
Did you know that for the last 10 yrs they have been taking and
catalogging DNA of every infant born in the US?

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Wed 11/22/06 04:53 PM
dont give the gov't that much credit. i used to work for it...they
aren't as sly as the movies portray. think about it, people that work
for the gov't are PEOPLE just like you and me.

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Wed 11/22/06 05:10 PM
Well yeah, lunatic. You seem to be a good person that worked for the
government. I commend you. But there are your higher bosses at the top
of the chain over you that wish to use this technology on the free
people or populations.

There ARE good people in Government. but there is also (Criminal
Elements) within our government that have said, planned and documented
years and decades back that THIS shall be the GLOBAL PLAN that all
nations shall be implimented with Big Brother Surveillance Controlled
Society.

It CANNOT be denied anymore of how our daily lives are getting more Less
and Less and Less and Less to our own Right to Privacy.

You see what is being built is not just some Fancy cool Surveillance
society for our safety. But a TOTAL Prisonitory Control Grid going up
Everywhere to WATCH & SPY on the population.

Then they will say to you "Well... It's to fight crime... move along...
nothing to see here" but that's just it. noting for the MASSES to see
but THOSE IN CONTROL to watch and spy on you is to see YOU.

Camera's that shout at you in the U.K. if you don't "BEHAVE" correctly
in public. oh yes, those will be coming to the U.S. very soon as well.

Notice all this surveillance is almost NEVER on the wide open borders.
uh uhhhh... nope nope nope... that's part of the North American Union my
friend. All in the Documents which are public. Anybody that's here under
Bush's Total Amnesty plans for 6 months to 6 years or those outside that
can get here are INSTANTLY legalized.

In all do remember that the Road to Hell is paid with good intentions.

My friend do you even know that they have Technology with Infra-Red
scanners mounted on special deployed helicopters that can actually SEE
THREW walls of your home and watch whatever you do?? Just go to google
and type in keywords like "Helicopters to see threw walls" or
"Helicopters Big Brother Technology" etc and you will get mainstream
news reports... I mean YOU CAN'T MAKE THINGS UP LIKE THIS... It's an
actual SCI-FI Horror Movie come to life and they are just conditioning
us to accept all this...

It's CRAZY and total COO COO LAND and they say "Oh yes it's GOOOOOOOOOOD
to listen to you in your home or threw your walls of your home or watch
you" 0_o

Next they will probably say cameras in school and public bathrooms are
good to. 0_o by the way... that's mainstream news TO.. Cameras in SCHOOL
BATHROOMS... THIS ISN'T FREEDOM...

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Wed 11/22/06 05:26 PM
WILLLLL, What kind of world or USA do you expect when they took prayer
out of the schools....''Oh'', some said, ''We should not let Christians
have their freedoms in the schools or in the gov.'' AND NOW YOU WANT TO
GRIPE AND CRY ABOUT EVERYONE'S FREEDOM BEING TAKING AWAY? All we can say
is: ''WE TRIED TO TELL YOU SO''...I am Cherokee and some of my
forefathers, of all kinds of tribes spoke the truth...''The USA will
destory themselves and the White Buffalo shall return!''

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Wed 11/22/06 05:32 PM
SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND GOVERNMENT..check it out

Truthoflife's photo
Wed 11/22/06 05:35 PM
Sorry you have been lied to by brain-washing...There is NO SUCH THING as
separation of church and state....it is a big fat LIE! What it DOES SAY
IS THAT THE GOV MAY MAKE NO LAW AGAINST RELIGION OR DENIEGH THE FREE
EXERCISE, THEREOF. Check THAT out.

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Wed 11/22/06 05:37 PM
Frankly I ain't brain washed..I don't belive in your damned God..don't
cram it down my throat and down force it on my kid in school..especially
a PUBLIC SCHOOL..so take your rehtoric elsewhere

Truthoflife's photo
Wed 11/22/06 05:43 PM
will, YOUR crap HAS BEEN CRAMED DOWN MY CHILDRENS THOATS! They were not
ALLOWED to read their Bibles on recess or during ANY breaks...Any kind
of praying is OUTLAWED AT SCHOOLS AND SINCE WHEN IS THE SCHOOLS HAVE THE
SCHOOLS BECOME THE GOV., ANYWAY? That is silly....All I am saying
deary...people of OTHER religions or beliefs SHOULD NOT CRY and BOO HOO
when their freedoms are removed or their freedom of speech, or any other
freedom is destoryed....It's like this...You take away ONE FREEDOM and
soon ALL FREEDOMS ARE GONE...Soon we, all, will have to ask permission
to take a piss.

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Wed 11/22/06 05:51 PM
a school is for learning not praying ..leave that kinda stuff at
church...if I had prayed or done my thing your kids woulda had a fit
about it because it wasn't Christian...so no prayer shouldn't be in
school, learning not church..ya want em to pray and stuff send em to a
private Christian school...and yes there is seperation of church and
state and thats the way it should be, I don't need a Christian telling
me how I should live my life or educate my kid

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Wed 11/22/06 05:53 PM
WELL IF THERE WAS PAYER IN SCHOOL IT MAKE KIDS A LOT CALMER AND HAVE A
LITTLE MORE RESPECT. RATHER THAN "EMO" BRATS RUNNING AROUND WITHOUT ANY
FAITH.

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Wed 11/22/06 05:53 PM
DAMN!!!!!Truth---get a Life!!serve your own God and leave other's
alone!!

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Wed 11/22/06 05:54 PM
thank you shadow and i love the pic darling

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Wed 11/22/06 05:57 PM
prayer in school has never, i mean never calm anyone in school ---i know
i've been there since 70's even now --it's still goin' on as usual

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Wed 11/22/06 05:59 PM
thank you, sweet-- didn't know you care about me

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Wed 11/22/06 06:00 PM
wow!!..here..SCHOOL FOR facts>>>CHURCH FOR FAITH..personal beliefs at
home..tolerance of others beliefs outside..remember we all are
essentially the same..both of you are mothers who love their children
and want the best even though you differ on what is best you must admit
that is isn't squabbling over personal beliefs.. government institutions
shoould be free of bias. which unfortunately means they have to be
almost sterile..so no ones personal point of veiw gets stepped on..What
we have to do is be more tolorence and understanding breeds peace..once
again unfortunately..humans don't breed undertsanding..we are only good
at (myself u=included) Being complete and utter jerks to one anotherSO i
conclude by saying i love you guys..and your gods//WILL

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