Topic: The difference between soul and spirit
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Tue 05/04/21 04:45 AM
Some Muslim scholars say man consists of two parts, body and soul. That is, the soul is the spirit. Others believe that the human being consist of three parts, body, soul and spirit. The soul is the part associated with God that leaves the body after death. Spirit is the part associated with the body and leaves him when he sleeps and then returns to him.
The Quran divided spirit into 3 degrees: 1st the tranquil spirit, which is the highest degree that the human reaches. This requires a lot of sincere work with oneself and with others, and sincerity with God while avoiding all sins. The 2nd spirit is a sign of evil that leads its owner to lie and commit sins. The 3rd the moderate spirit, it is an intermediate degree between the two, that sins, but admits guilt, and hurries to repent and turn away from the sins.
The Quran say: This Day (of Resurrection) shall every spirit (person) be recompensed for what he earned. No injustice (shall be done to anybody). Truly, God is Swift in reckoning.
The meaning of the word " spirit " in the Bible
The Hebrew word 'nephesh', and the Greek word 'psyche', were translated into “spirit.” Spirit in the Bible verses refer mainly to (1) the person, (2) Animals, or (3) human life or animal life.
In Arabic translation: "Jehovah said to Moses: “All the people who were seeking your spirit died.” But in most English translations the verse was: " Now the LORD had said to Moses in Midian, "Go back to Egypt, for all those who wanted to kill you are dead." Or "… all the men who were seeking your life are dead.”
The Soul
The Soul is created by command of God, and it leaves the body, at the moment of death.
On the Day of Resurrection, the soul will return to the body. The Quran said: And the Trumpet shall be blown78 and all who are in the heavens and the earth shall fall down dead save those whom God wills. Then the Trumpet shall be blown again, and lo! all of them will be standing and looking on.79
" Soul " in the Bible
Bible writers have used the Hebrew word 'ruach' - meaning is both 'wind' or 'breath,' or the Greek word 'Pneuma' to refer to “soul.”
In Arabic translation: ' Then the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the soul returns to God, who gave it.' Ecclesiastes 12:7
In most English translations the word was: "spirit " as in the verse:
'the dust [of mortals] returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.'
Or: 'So our bodies return to the earth, and the life-giving breath returns to God.' And ' Our bodies will return to the dust of the earth, and the breath of life will go back to God, who gave it to us. Ecclesiastes 12:7
In summary, "soul" and "spirit" are not synonymous. The soul is the power that brings life to the body, without which life stops with death and it does not think or feel. The soul is an invisible power that brings life to all creatures. Spirit thinks and feel so person can manage it. Psychologist deals with spirit but not with soul.

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Tue 05/04/21 07:32 AM
Lung, I’m curious what Bible and concordance you are looking at? For the KJV pneuma is being translated as spirit and psuche as soul.

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Wed 05/05/21 12:56 AM

Lung, I’m curious what Bible and concordance you are looking at? For the KJV pneuma is being translated as spirit and psuche as soul.

A human is identified here as having three parts: "spirit" (pneuma), "sensory-self" (psuche) and "body" (soma).
PSUCHE HAS THREE DIFFERENT MEANINGS IN REFERENCE TO HUMANS, (plus a fourth, figurative usage referring to God). In the KJV is translated as 58 times as "soul/s.", 41 times as "life" or "lives", 3 times as "mind/s", 1 time as "heart", 1 time as "heartily", and 1 time as "doubt." --KJV only translates the Greek NT (not the LXX). The English word and its derivatives including "psychology" and "psychiatry" are rooted in Greek mythology. According to Greek and Roman religions, the beauty Psyche, who had been loved by Eros (or Cupid) was released from death and granted immortality. "Psyche’s imagery in ancient art is represented with butterfly wings. The idea was, freed from death, the body of the soul could fly freely, soaring, departing from the shackles of the chrysalis."
The word psuche was historically translated eventually into the Latin Vulgate Bible as "animal" (i.e., every time you see "soul" in the KJV it is "animal" in the Latin). When the English KJV was originally translated (1611) the word "animal" was not common in the language. You will not find the word "animal" at all in the KJV. Rather, the word that was in use in 1611 was "soul", a word that had entered the language from the Old High German.

https://biblestudylessons.net/Comics/Greek%20to%20me/psyche.html

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Wed 05/05/21 08:58 AM
Edited by tdion on Wed 05/05/21 09:14 AM


Lung, I’m curious what Bible and concordance you are looking at? For the KJV pneuma is being translated as spirit and psuche as soul.

A human is identified here as having three parts: "spirit" (pneuma), "sensory-self" (psuche) and "body" (soma).
PSUCHE HAS THREE DIFFERENT MEANINGS IN REFERENCE TO HUMANS, (plus a fourth, figurative usage referring to God). In the KJV is translated as 58 times as "soul/s.", 41 times as "life" or "lives", 3 times as "mind/s", 1 time as "heart", 1 time as "heartily", and 1 time as "doubt." --KJV only translates the Greek NT (not the LXX). The English word and its derivatives including "psychology" and "psychiatry" are rooted in Greek mythology. According to Greek and Roman religions, the beauty Psyche, who had been loved by Eros (or Cupid) was released from death and granted immortality. "Psyche’s imagery in ancient art is represented with butterfly wings. The idea was, freed from death, the body of the soul could fly freely, soaring, departing from the shackles of the chrysalis."
The word psuche was historically translated eventually into the Latin Vulgate Bible as "animal" (i.e., every time you see "soul" in the KJV it is "animal" in the Latin). When the English KJV was originally translated (1611) the word "animal" was not common in the language. You will not find the word "animal" at all in the KJV. Rather, the word that was in use in 1611 was "soul", a word that had entered the language from the Old High German.


https://biblestudylessons.net/Comics/Greek%20to%20me/psyche.html


The Holy bible is not a dictionary nor an encyclopedia. Looking up the meaning of words will not help. VanderZon has made a dictionary in which most biblical words and terms are explained in detail, and translated to English. It does make sense to read or refer to VanderZon, because they are among the best one can find, for further biblical text, research and interpretation. It may or may not cost much depending on where you live, but you should acquire one for your own study. I do have mine.

Other then that, it's important to understand what text you are reading, and what they mean because the bible does not contradict itself.

Genesis[2:7] tells us that men is created from the dust of the ground, so his color, comes from the ground, and the soul enters the body through the nostrills with the 1st breath, which is called "The breath of life". So, an other word for soul is the breath of life, which will remain in the body as long as we breath. There are no timeframes mentioned and just the entrance of the soul.

The body becomes fully functional when the spirit or words are added to it. The churches know this, and that's why they will hunt you down, baptize you and force their doctrines into your minds, as soon as your spirit is old enough to understand what they are telling you. Their goal is to indoctrinate you, and make sure they imprint a believe system that will last for your whole life.

You will come to this site and teach Christianity and Hinduism and other religions, believing you are telling the truth, nothing but the truth and the whole truth only. Never understanding that your mind (process of thinking and reasoning) HAS BEEN CLOUDED and influenced by external forces. These people need us to think that way for their kingdom is not at hand, as long as we think and act as they want us to.

Either you believe it or not, but you are bewitched and have been your whole life. The story of the bible happened in North East Africa but the majority of people still think, and pray to a European Jesus.

So, now you know more about soul, spirit and mind, and the HEART is the MIND when used biblically. These are the weapons that will govern you and help you in your Journey of becoming, who you really are.