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Topic: Now that we are close ...
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Tue 12/15/20 04:33 PM
An important message from the Dean of the University of Minnesota Medical School: "The two most advanced vaccines, from Pfizer and Moderna, are both highly regarded for safety. Some people are concerned that the vaccines were developed too quickly, but the speed comes not from corners being cut, but from how these vaccines were created. Traditional vaccines use weakened or dead virus to cause immunity. The new COVID-19 vaccines work by introducing a molecule (mRNA sequence) that is coded to tell the cells to produce the antigen that recognizes COVID-19 and mobilizes the immune system to fight the virus. RNA vaccines are quicker to develop, cheaper to make, and safer for patients because they don’t introduce an infectious agent."

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Tue 12/15/20 04:58 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rollout-of-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-slows-in-u-k-due-to-allergic-reaction-monitoring-11607967990

:point_up:this is laughable , doctors get paid for each injection they give

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/16/tensions-mount-over-handling-of-uk-covid-vaccine-rollout

:point_up:this is worse, the wife of the treasurer is the 1 who has been put in charge of buying the bloody vaccines. And if people end up wanting to sue somebody, then they sue the government, so, they sue the themselves, the taxpayer

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Wed 12/16/20 06:30 AM
A new day has started with Vaccines ... I am really happy for those that get it and are working in the fields and nursing homes ...I would think the VA also for veterans... and I am sure they will study how everyone who gets it ... side affect no side effects ...and the another new one coming out ... I meant to tell everyone if they did not know about the first covid vac ... I love when women that win and come out with the answers needed...


https://abc13.com/black-scientist-dr-kizzmekia-corbett-praised-covid-vaccine-kizzy-facui/8794247/

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Wed 12/16/20 10:07 AM
I think there is a lot of confusion about HOW most vaccines work and how the covid-19 vaccine works.

For example the flu vaccine works by introducing your body to tiny little parts of different flu viruses. This triggers a reaction from your immune system — the processes in your body that fight off infection. Your immune system realizes these virus fragments shouldn't be in your body, and figures out how to destroy them. They basically work by making the body produce antibodies to fight the virus

With the covid-19 vaccine the covid-19 virus ISN'T in the vaccine.
The Pfizer vaccine is an mRNA vaccine which works by encoding a portion of the spike protein found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. These mRNA vaccines use pieces of the encoded protein to create an immune response in your body, which then develops antibodies.


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Wed 12/16/20 10:58 AM
Edited by The Wrong Alice on Wed 12/16/20 10:59 AM
Wow, so no cow pox
There's been nothing in the press about the spike protein, where do these people get their information?
And all of this is said like, oh, well that explains it then, that sounds better
Wtf is a spike protein?
And if this brand new vaccine has been created using a brand new method, then surely it will have had even more rigorous tests than usual right? Oops
And surely a bunch of people ain't going to make a ton of money from this savior of humanity right? Oops
If it does go titz up, who will you sue, if you would if you could? In the U.K. you'd have to sue the government, so that's a bit like suing your own family, was it their fault?
In other countries, you'll likely have to sign a disclaimer, giving up your right to sue.
Anybody know how Sweden is getting on? I ain't heard anything in awhile. That's probably because they didn't act like sheep so now are all dead, right? Oops


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Wed 12/16/20 12:06 PM

Wow, so no cow pox
There's been nothing in the press about the spike protein, where do these people get their information?
And all of this is said like, oh, well that explains it then, that sounds better
Wtf is a spike protein?
And if this brand new vaccine has been created using a brand new method, then surely it will have had even more rigorous tests than usual right? Oops
And surely a bunch of people ain't going to make a ton of money from this savior of humanity right? Oops
If it does go titz up, who will you sue, if you would if you could? In the U.K. you'd have to sue the government, so that's a bit like suing your own family, was it their fault?
In other countries, you'll likely have to sign a disclaimer, giving up your right to sue.
Anybody know how Sweden is getting on? I ain't heard anything in awhile. That's probably because they didn't act like sheep so now are all dead, right? Oops




slaphead slaphead slaphead Maybe instead of wondering who to sue and people making money you should be more concerned about saving lives...and informing yourself instead of depending on the media to provide you with ALL the information regarding the vaccine which is ridiculous.SMH

The following info was EASILY found


mRNA vaccines aren't new....spike proteins aren't new Studying the use mRNA vaccines began about 30 years ago. Spike protein (S protein) is a large type I transmembrane protein and the RNA in mRNA is RNA, short for ribonucleic acid.
Key points from an article published in 2018 "Recent improvements in mRNA vaccines act to increase protein translation, modulate innate and adaptive immunogenicity and improve delivery......Diverse approaches to mRNA cancer vaccines, including dendritic cell vaccines and various types of directly injectable mRNA, have been employed in numerous cancer clinical trials, with some promising results showing antigen-specific T cell responses and prolonged disease-free survival in some cases.

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Wed 12/16/20 02:36 PM
1, I was being sarcastic,It feels like I've heard spike protein 100 times a day for 100 years
2, I believe the U.S.A. is a highly litigative society, often involved in suing someboy
3 saving lives? That could take many words and arguements to respond to, if it's about saving lives, why are some people going to make so much money?
4 numerous cancer clinical trials..the 1 illness that big pharma makes something like 70% of all it's profits from..sure, big incentive for them to....
5 you never did mention Sweden

Look mate, I've heard some of these so called scientific explanations about illnesses and medications for a long, long time. I didn't believe them then, and i don't believe them now

Perhaps the U.S.A. could sort out it's rampant obesity problem and stop stealing oil and going to war with anybody that doesn't want to use the petrodollar, if it wants to 'save lives'. Remember folks, we're on the ground fighting the battle for hearts and minds, that's what really counts, and freedom and democracy. That's more sarcasm btw

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Wed 12/16/20 03:12 PM
The US could stop stealing oil??????laugh

You are misinformed.

As of December 7th 2020 the United States is the top oil-producing country in the world, with an average of 19.47 million barrels per day (b/d), which accounts for 19% of the world's production. 2 The U.S. has held the top spot for the past six years.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of what you believe. frustrated

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Wed 12/16/20 05:16 PM
Yes, the US, along with other countries, could stop stealing oil

https://www.deccanherald.com/business/china-to-take-oil-refining-crown-held-by-us-since-19th-century-918862.html

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Wed 12/16/20 05:39 PM
Just HOW is the US stealing oil? Since May of 2019, the country became a net oil and gas exporter. Did the United States steal the oil it exports? Did the United States seize oil in Iraq or any other country? Did the United States seize any oil tankers? (in case you don't recognize it those are rhetorical questions)

The United States DOESN'T steal oil or any other products. The FACT is the United States gives MORE foreign aide globally than ANY other country, both financially and militarily. The United States pays MORE money than ANY other country to the UN and NATO.

Once again don't let FACTS get in the way of what you believe. whoa

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Wed 12/16/20 06:06 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 12/16/20 06:33 PM

Just HOW is the US stealing oil? Since May of 2019, the country became a net oil and gas exporter. Did the United States steal the oil it exports? Did the United States seize oil in Iraq or any other country? Did the United States seize any oil tankers? (in case you don't recognize it those are rhetorical questions)

The United States DOESN'T steal oil or any other products. The FACT is the United States gives MORE foreign aide globally than ANY other country, both financially and militarily. The United States pays MORE money than ANY other country to the UN and NATO.

Once again don't let FACTS get in the way of what you believe. whoa


I am not going to fight over every country ...we are in militarily becouse of some direct reason ... but yes we did seize oil ... and other energy's that some other country's have ... 1 is Iraqi.. but lets now go over how many country's we are in an why ...I will say u are right about he United States pays MORE money than ANY other country to the UN and NATO. ... and here is another wrong with the environment... becouse of oil how about all of the rigs in the ocean has large oil rigs left ... and did not break them down did they think it would be a birds perch ... I will go there later ...

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Wed 12/16/20 06:31 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 12/16/20 06:39 PM
why are you all talking oil in this topic ... make your own or go to another topic that has oil talk in it ... ok smartassjohn...


I an others may have heard that trumps & team wanted every one to get sick or die from this covid virus ... such a wonderful man don't let the door hit you in the *zz when u leave ... I thought what is wrong with this man well the psycho part and others just wanted people to die ... and he did not even care about his rich friends and or his proud boys and all other groups he has to do with and their children ... go ahead don't where a mask... so what if u die their is another raciest group to take your place ... look at me ...I am making a free living off you slaphead I thank you for your deaths ... yawn as he would just do ... or how about a roll of paper towelsyawn again ...

now I understand why they did not want any liability for those the works and die ... but now I am not sure but Biden is ok with putting a GOP member in the cabinet ... or somewhere ... thinking it would be a good way to work together ... my goodness they did nothing for the new President an Vic... finally said ok lets welcome them in ... putting someone in being a GOP unless he or she pushes a carte all around the white house ... asking would u like a magazine to read today ... they do not deserve any more why becouse what have they done really for the people except try and kill as many as they can ... I say don't do it ... they involved should really be brought up on charges for first and second degree murder ...

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Wed 12/16/20 07:29 PM
You heard that Trump and his team wanted everyone to get sick or die from this virus??????
If you truly believe that I would suggest find new people, media or groups to listen to who aren't ridiculous radicals.
I can understand people not liking him personally. I can understand people not liking him politically. What I can't understand is people who make ridiculous and baseless claims about anyone for the a fore mentioned reasons.
I would suggest reading "Guilt by Accusation" by Harvard University Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, he's a lifelong Democrat and liberal.

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