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Topic: Wow i'm pissed off at jersey
UWannaBSpontaneous's photo
Mon 12/17/07 09:53 AM
Ha! Most definately! glasses

Cause look at all the hits this got.

J

miked0002's photo
Mon 12/17/07 09:57 AM
i didn't even see it. I was too busy hitting refresh over and over to see what you had to say next lol....i'm mike by the way...(i know that you already know my name, but i couldn't see a proper way to introduce myself without saying that)

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Mon 12/17/07 10:00 AM
Death Penalty has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 Million
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources

UWannaBSpontaneous's photo
Mon 12/17/07 01:21 PM
I had to leave the News area but hey, Nice to meet you man! Keep posting the fun topics that get us all stirred.

drinker

texasrose9's photo
Mon 12/17/07 09:37 PM
There are times when a person has been convicted with credible and irrefutable evidence of horrible crimes. Crimes against small children, for example. I believe when it has been thoroughly proved the person is guilty of murder, particularly if it was especially cruel or to a young child, the death penalty is fair. Some crimes are too despicable to give someone life in prison.

But then again...I'm from Texas.... so I guess that explains it...

Jtevans's photo
Mon 12/17/07 09:41 PM
i say kill'em,no need to let them live their life in prison while the tax payers pay for it.the money could be going to something more useful!

davinci1952's photo
Mon 12/17/07 11:22 PM
they should be hung by their testicles by the chimney with care...

Turtlepoet78's photo
Tue 12/18/07 03:55 AM
Edited by Turtlepoet78 on Tue 12/18/07 04:01 AM

No offence to anyone but, ending the death penalty is a stupid idea. I think so anyway. Now for killing someone you get to live for free, in jail, the rest of your life. Isn't that motive enough to take someone out? EYE FOR AN EYE i say.


Not jail, prison & yes there's a big differance. Have you ever been to prison? Sleeping with one eye open? Watching over your back constantly? Prison is anything but "living for free" to inmates, keep it real now. Go ahead, kill someone & see how easy it is survive there. Oh, and btw, eye for an eye is a measure of restraint to say "no more than an eye for eye". Please, Jersey did a good thing, life in prison is much much much harder a sentance than death.

Oh, and those who commit crimes against women, children and the elderly are usualy the first to get raped and/ or shanked once they get to their assignment (prison);^]

yokoke's photo
Tue 12/18/07 01:03 PM
Go to jail,
Get your GED , knocks off time served...
Get your college degree, kocks off time served...
Good for 1 week get so much time in 'good behavior' taken off
Parole time......ahhhh been so good...pat on head & released...
Meals served, library, education, exercise....
who would not want to go??

Texas is smart.... Eye for an Eye....devil

So all in all you want to kill someone and not be executed for it.... go to Alaska, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, Wisconsin as none of these states have dealthy penalty statutes.....drinker smokin


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Tue 12/18/07 02:57 PM
People who've never been to prison really amaze me!! Yeah, rape, murder, loss of freedom, who wouldn't wanna go? Many states abolished parole, here felony good time is only 15% off sentance, meals are ****e, you always have to worry about what's in the meals, maybe you should educate yourself before making these ridiculas statements. And on privilages such as cable, yard time, good time, exercise equip. such as weights, if you don't offer an inmate these privilages than what do you have to take away when they act up? Running a prison is a science and serving in any one of those prisons is a nightmare. Maybe some of you guys need a field trip to one, before you talk about ignorance in other threads again while showing yours here;^]

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Tue 12/18/07 03:32 PM

People who've never been to prison really amaze me!! Yeah, rape, murder, loss of freedom, who wouldn't wanna go? Many states abolished parole, here felony good time is only 15% off sentance, meals are ****e, you always have to worry about what's in the meals, maybe you should educate yourself before making these ridiculas statements. And on privilages such as cable, yard time, good time, exercise equip. such as weights, if you don't offer an inmate these privilages than what do you have to take away when they act up? Running a prison is a science and serving in any one of those prisons is a nightmare. Maybe some of you guys need a field trip to one, before you talk about ignorance in other threads again while showing yours here;^]


Hey Turtle are you okay? You are getting really defensive...

Turtlepoet78's photo
Tue 12/18/07 03:37 PM


People who've never been to prison really amaze me!! Yeah, rape, murder, loss of freedom, who wouldn't wanna go? Many states abolished parole, here felony good time is only 15% off sentance, meals are ****e, you always have to worry about what's in the meals, maybe you should educate yourself before making these ridiculas statements. And on privilages such as cable, yard time, good time, exercise equip. such as weights, if you don't offer an inmate these privilages than what do you have to take away when they act up? Running a prison is a science and serving in any one of those prisons is a nightmare. Maybe some of you guys need a field trip to one, before you talk about ignorance in other threads again while showing yours here;^]


Hey Turtle are you okay? You are getting really defensive...


Why wouldn't I at this kind of ignorance towards our prison system?, it's offensive to anybody who's ever had any association with the prison system. Prison life is pure hell, period;^]

Turtlepoet78's photo
Tue 12/18/07 03:41 PM
Capitol punishment is no justice, it's revenge and serves no purpose but to say "ha, now who's the one who's dead";^]

yokoke's photo
Tue 12/18/07 03:58 PM

Capitol punishment is no justice, it's revenge and serves no purpose but to say "ha, now who's the one who's dead";^]


Well some see putting forth the tax revenue to pay for things they themselves are not afforded the luxury of attaining...some see capitol punishment as a way to end of torture knowing their loved one lost a life while someone else goes on...some see it not as revenge, but as what they deserve and that is from the inmates themselves who would rather die than endure the torture subjected to in prison....

Sometimes slipping on anothers shoes for a minute may help you to understand the grief, sadness, revenge others live....

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Tue 12/18/07 04:04 PM
Oh right, because I've never lost any friends to the Richmond southside? Keep it real, you can call an orange an apple but it's still an orange, in this case vengeance. Justice is out of love and protection for peoples safety in the general public. Locking them up is justice because they can't hurt another citisen from prison. Revenge is out of anger for the event suffered and the desire to make them suffer or die. So, locking someone away is obviously justice, so if they're already locked up, how does killing them then become justice?;^]

yokoke's photo
Tue 12/18/07 04:12 PM

Oh right, because I've never lost any friends to the Richmond southside? Keep it real, you can call an orange an apple but it's still an orange, in this case vengeance. Justice is out of love and protection for peoples safety in the general public. Locking them up is justice because they can't hurt another citisen from prison. Revenge is out of anger for the event suffered and the desire to make them suffer or die. So, locking someone away is obviously justice, so if they're already locked up, how does killing them then become justice?;^]


Each state sets the statute. Laws are laws. Consequences to breaking the law... not a matter of Justice.... it's the laws that people with free will and choice chose to break...

I admire your passion....perhaps you should enter politics....:smile:

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Tue 12/18/07 04:27 PM
I'm no politician, just the idea man. But justice is supposed to be the rule of law for convincting criminals, fair & speedy trial, humane treatment, how is killing somebody humane regardless to the crime they commited when it is your American, unalianable right to life? I know what it's like to lose somebody, and the urge for veangance is tempting, too tempting. Maybe you could argue for stiffer penalties, but killing is not only immoral, it's unconsitutional;^]

yokoke's photo
Tue 12/18/07 04:49 PM

I'm no politician, just the idea man. But justice is supposed to be the rule of law for convincting criminals, fair & speedy trial, humane treatment, how is killing somebody humane regardless to the crime they commited when it is your American, unalianable right to life? I know what it's like to lose somebody, and the urge for veangance is tempting, too tempting. Maybe you could argue for stiffer penalties, but killing is not only immoral, it's unconsitutional;^]


Well justice is always served outside in a realm much bigger than own meager humble existences here, we may not see it in our lifetime, but rest assured it does come full circle...

Turtlepoet78's photo
Tue 12/18/07 04:52 PM
Edited by Turtlepoet78 on Tue 12/18/07 04:53 PM
Actualy, think I already made my point, peace;^]

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Wed 12/19/07 08:20 AM
Sorry I do not believe in capitol punishment for ANY reason.

HOWEVER I do have one word for use inplace of capital punishment, and that is PENAL colonies (ok two words, sos orry :tongue:)

Penal colonies located on islands that are in the middle of the ocean with absoultely NO contact. Prisoners are parachuted in for life. They grow their own food, and build their own shelters.

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