I think that we should pull out all of out troops right now from Iraq. Now people are going to say that it is cruel and becasue we started it we should finish it. Well the problem with that is that we can not finish it. No matter how long we are there we will never set up a peaceful government.

The example I use is The Revolutionary War. In the revolutionary war we needed the help of france. France gave us money and guns and lots of other things we needed. The reason we won and are the nation we are today is because France never went futher then that. Now say if they helped us overthrow the English, and then had tried to start a government that was the same as theirs, a monarchy. We would have rebelled against them to because thats not what we wanted. It is the same situation in Iraq the people need to fight and die for their own ideals. Now we can back any faction we want, but we can only help fight we cannot set up our own governtment.

Been involved in that war...its a non starter....we cannot impose our principles on others...what's them is them....let them sort it out for themselves.....seriously leave them for a year and they will have solved our problem (whatever that is ) out in a year 0% Budget expenditure.....

It wouldn't be that big of a deal if their ancient mentality didn't threaten modern progress. We're humans, we make up our own culture as we go, such as history has been. Nothing stands in the way of progress - and the arabic culture hasn't progressed in a milenia.

We are winning in Iraq, the surest sign is that the MSM has stopped talking about Iraq. By every objective measurement, we are winning in Iraq. When Democrats called general Petraeus, "General BetrayUs", they had a point. By making winning the peace in Iraq possible, he has betrayed everything that the elected Democrats had hoped for: A defeat for George Bush.

We probably should have never started the war. And frankly i could give a crap about iraqis. However, to pull out now would be a foolish thing. It's like saying that because we made a mistake to go over we should make another just because. I am talking from a tactical perspective so bare with me. When we went over we may have taken out a ruthless leader but in doing so we are giving the terrorists themselves more freedom. Sadam did may have hated America but for the most part terrorism was not tolerated. If you were suspected of it he would kill you on the spot. People in our country are very soft and emotional. Our government has to fight with their hands tied behind their backs. I can tell you from experience... war is hell. I have been on WELL over 100 combat operations in Sadre City, Baghdad, and Mosuel. I have met many convicted "insurgants" face to face. They have this mentallity going where they view kindness as weakness. Anyhow, if we pull out the country will fail. When it fails the Al-queda and other terrorist groups that are now funding the insergants will move in. Now they have a country and a lot more funding from taxing their citizens. We would make them more powerful at the same time it makes us look weak. This is a very dangerous combination when you are dealing with a bunch of religous extremists that want to do nothing more than hate. And from a more personal perspective, think of the soldiers. We have lost some 3700 ish troops. I can't stand letting them die for nothing. If we pull out, we fail. Their deaths would be in vain. Im sorry to ramble but i get pretty heated over this topic. It all boils down to this. We are doing good right now. We had a few lowpoints but, regardless what the media will have you believe, the surge worked, and is working. We need to ride this out a little longer so we can accomplish our mission. Not for them, but for us. If we fail, we will pay for it within just a few years.

I think we should pull out of the war right now. I read an article that said the roadside bombs don't really exist , but are Israeli missiles that kill troops on both sides: LETS YOU AND HIM FIGHT!!!You can't find those roadside bombs if they do not exist they say. The missile is faster than sound, you don't know where it came from they say. So americans blame it on Iraqis as a roadside bomb and Iraqis seem to know that it came from Israel, Lets you and him fight!! Does that make any sense???

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Drivinmenutz... Well said.

My heart breaks every time I read of one of our boys losing his life over there and as much as I want them ALL home safely, the fact remains that if we pull out now the radical terrorists will regroup and gain both strength and numbers. Would you rather have them on the run from our troops over there or free to plot a strike on us here at home? I say we give the boys everything they need to get the job done... more troops, the best equipment, and a unified home front that stands proud to support them.

This is an issue that hits home for me. Too layered to give a simple stay or go.
I have cousins that have thankfully come back from Iraq... and a fiance headed there in the Fall. For the sake of my future husband, who believes he needs to fulfill a duty, I will support him, and all the troops. I do not support the war.

well said Spider

*puts on tinfoil hat* Shalom;^]