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Reuters, 16th August 2019
Trump is due to visit Copenhagen in September and the Arctic will be on the agenda during meetings with the prime ministers of Denmark and Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory.
Talk of a Greenland purchase was first reported by the Wall Street Journal. Two sources familiar with the situation told Reuters. Status In 1917 Denmark sold off the then Danish West Indies islands for $25 million to the United States, which renamed them the United States Virgin Islands. A defence treaty between Denmark and the United States dating back to 1951 gives the U.S. military rights over the Thule Air Base in northern Greenland. In May, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Russia was behaving aggressively in the Arctic and China's actions there had to be watched closely as well. |
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The title of this thread is somewhat misleading. At this time anyway. I don't know about the future.
Greenland has just released a statement debunking the rumors. It is not for sale. |
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Given the present geopolitical climate, anybody can see this is a 'win-win' situation for the stakeholders including the 50 k people living on that very vast ice-sheet. President Trump is direct. No posturing, nothing. This is something that unnerves most politicians (around the world). But it saves negotiation time and costs. I'm learning. |
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Hi Jaish
I realize I came off a little abrupt with my last posting. I apologize. It's a good topic. I like your postings. You have a lot to contribute on these forums. Yes, it's a very important area. It will be interesting to see what happens in the future. |
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Edited by
jaish
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Fri 08/16/19 10:27 AM
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Hi Jaish I realize I came off a little abrupt with my last posting. I apologize. It's a good topic. I like your postings. You have a lot to contribute on these forums. Yes, it's a very important area. It will be interesting to see what happens in the future. I missed the 'little abrupt-ness'; where(?) Yours was a balanced observation. What I intended to say before the shower of high praise was: 'Even if it is a 'no' from Greenland today, Trump will keep the door open for tomorrow.., at his terms.' |
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Edited by
jaish
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Fri 08/16/19 11:03 AM
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Returning to the topic, if someone were to enquire how does US-Greenland concern me. 'Right, it does not!' But if the question is rephrased to 'what compels US to take in Greenland.., today' then we are discussing geopolitics, just like oil. And in geopolitics, no event is isolated; it falls within a pattern of events happening alongside. So if Pompey is saying Russia is aggressive about Arctic and the Chinese are roaming free; then it's hog wash. The analysis does not dilute the importance of Greenland being within the fold of America; not at all. for all practical purposes it already was. The question is, is it because Trump is a real estate Mogul and so the acquisition? Or is it because there's something else going around the world, a pattern of events; and Trump is a fast learner? |
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It's more than likely because Russia are making claims in the artic region in the ice cap. wanting to find oils and minerals.
Another side is it gets them closer to the usa! This has been going on for some time now so it's not just a trump thing. |
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Russia's interest in the Arctic,
extends far beyond natural resources. If the ice melts, or can somehow be cleared out of the way, it will open shipping lanes that'll be worth untold trillions of dollars, to whoever controls them. As it sits, Russia already claims/controls much of the Arctic. If Greenland is to become a state or territory, I welcome them. |
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Russia's interest in the Arctic, extends far beyond natural resources. If the ice melts, or can somehow be cleared out of the way, it will open shipping lanes that'll be worth untold trillions of dollars, to whoever controls them. As it sits, Russia already claims/controls much of the Arctic. If Greenland is to become a state or territory, I welcome them. 
I think they made passage through some time ago! |
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Jaish,
What an Incredibly Sweet response! Thank you so Much. The Artic area is truly important strategically, especially since China and Russia also want it. It is also important because of the Natural Resources, and there's also something else to consider. It's location in reference to the Ice Caps and Global Warming. The United States is already a member of the Arctic Nations, because of Alaska. If We obtained Greenland, We could have more clout in that as well. As far as your questions, I don't know if Trump wants to acquire Greenland, because he is a Real Estate Mogul. There is a correlation between wanting power and acquiring things. In that sense, you are correct. He is trying to get it for the assets stated earlier. As far as the last part of your question, (paraphrasing) ... Is it due to something else going on or around the world?.. I have no idea. Thanks for the very engaging discussion. |
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It's not like we get a vote. We should get a vote.
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That's a good point, Cat.
I didn't even think of that. I, personally, think it would benefit the US to acquire Greenland. In the event that ever happened, the outcomes would depend on many variables. I don't think it's going to happen though. |
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21 August:
Although we are aware of the news, it is repeated here thereby bringing this thread to closure. U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday called off a visit to Denmark scheduled for early September after the country's prime minister rebuffed his idea of purchasing Greenland. "Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen's comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time," Trump said in a post on Twitter. "The Prime Minister was able to save a great deal of expense and effort for both the United States and Denmark by being so direct. I thank her for that and look forward to rescheduling sometime in the future!" May be another time! |
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Maybe the Russians put in a higher offer?
Or maybe these countries are fed up of being used as a first strike facility? Which basically all Europe is being only a few hundred miles from Moscow? |
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Maybe, if an offer to trade Puerto Rico
for it were made, the Danes would have been more agreeable... |
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Edited by
jaish
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Thu 08/22/19 05:00 AM
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Maybe, if an offer to trade Puerto Rico for it were made, the Danes would have been more agreeable... Makes sense. The Danes could have at least waited to see what the offer was. |
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