Topic: Electoral College fair or not???
Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:07 PM
I see a lot of other differences cute! Gov differences!

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:25 PM
New Hampshire does look nice though Cute!flowerforyou

How do y'all stay so small?

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:30 PM

Popular Vote would ensure that the areas of the country with the most people would basicaly decide who becomes President. That would mean California and NY!

I do not want to have a bunch of Yankees and Cal-I-forn-I ayes telling me whats best for me! No thank you!!

Not a good idea!!



ya know i thought that to

but it is that way anyway

look at the numbers

ma has 11

and calif has how many

so not really much differnce

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:32 PM
adj, California gets 54 electoral votes as they have a population of 29 million.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:33 PM
Yes, it is adj. The electorial college is based upon a ratio!
By the time you start adding individuals the odds change drastically!

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:35 PM
Yep NC has 8 million! We have 15 electorial votes...

The current system is fair!drinker

Totage's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:39 PM
No, if it was fair the peoples president would be elected not some of the presidents we've had.

If we had no electoral college I think more people would vote, having more confidence that their vote may actually count.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:48 PM
People dont vote cause they are complacent! Thats all!!

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:52 PM
I believe if more voted and the electoral college worked properly, it would work that way too. If the popular vote could over ride the electoral in circumstances like the 2000 election that would be nice also.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 05:56 PM
A provision? Hmmm ....

what controls, what limits?
Where would we draw the line!!
Maybe if the election was as close as 5 electorial votes, go to the popular vote?.

That might work!

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:00 PM
to keep the electrol college

it should be broke down into districts

no candidate gets every vote in the state

and thus leaves the others with out a say


Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:01 PM
We tried to get a split vote here in Colorado but we were out voted at the polls. I would really like to see that here as there are alot of dems here but we do not get counted. We are counted as a red state.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:05 PM
We are republican by history, but that could change this year!

If it werent for illegal immigration! I so prayed, preached, and *****ed for that last bill in Congress to pass and get this issue behind us!

Instead the issue has grown and the problem here is so great I know its going to dominate peoples votes!

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:10 PM
Well and you already know my position on immigration. But I agree it will be a prominent subject. The hackles are up about it, 30+ years too late. But so is politics, I guess. It will be interesting to see the results.

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:15 PM
How Many Votes do States Get?

Each State is allocated a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives. The number of electors for a State is based on the number of members in the House of Representatives who represent the State, plus two for the State's Senators. A State's Congressional delegation is determined by the State's population.

The number of people in each State is determined by the Federal census, which is taken every ten years and includes a count of every State's population.


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adj4u's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:16 PM

How Many Votes do States Get?

Each State is allocated a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives. The number of electors for a State is based on the number of members in the House of Representatives who represent the State, plus two for the State's Senators. A State's Congressional delegation is determined by the State's population.

The number of people in each State is determined by the Federal census, which is taken every ten years and includes a count of every State's population.


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looks like popular vote will not change it much

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:17 PM
Dragonness,
I graduated HS in Alamogordo, NM in the 70's! Apprx. 80 miles from the border! Believe me, I have been to Mexico many times and I know for a fact that Illegal immigration was not the problem then as it is now!
No way,
No shape,
No form!!

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:19 PM
I have many Mexican American friends and when I speak about illegal immigration, I speak with those friendships in mind and with their thoughts as well!drinker

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:22 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 12/11/07 06:25 PM
538 el col votes

55 ca == 10.223% for 12.223% of pop.

31 ny === 5.762% for 6.548 of pop.


2004 pop numbers from this site

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html


i don't see that much difference

that justifies keeping the college

it needs scrapped and majority needed to win > 50%


Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/11/07 06:26 PM
I posted those State by state adj!

They changed year to year! NC just gained 2, Kent lost 3, NY lost, LA lost etc....!!

Her Ill get you a link, if you want!
drinker