I really wanna know thoughts bout this Topic, I have bring through so many of these guys that can lie to make you love them

That is of no use as one day truth comes out by itself and it is clearly visible when it comes out, lying never helps and those who do it are maybe unstable mentally.

It does happen. Not all men / women / transgenders are the same. Some are just willing to do anything to get what they want.

In my opinion it still takes a face to face meeting tk see if the feelings are true.

Sadly, lying does help people to manipulate and get what they want. Sometimes it comes back to bite you on the azz, but not always.

OP: The world is full of sociopaths who will lie, charm, and manipulate to get what they want. The internet has been a breeding ground for this type of behavioral disorder. All you can do is fine tune your bull$h!t detector.

In general, it has to do with the sexual drive of most men and the sexual reluctance of most women. Many women still feel that having sex is something they reserve for someone they are in some level of relationship with. While that is their choice, the message to men is that they have to convince you that they also want that relationship so you will be willing to have sex.

For women, it is about the relationship; for men, it is about the sex. The truth is that both need what the other can offer;the difficulty is getting there in an honest manner and accepting the needs of the other. While I wouldn't expect a woman to consent to sex on the first few dates, I would expect her to become a sexual partner when she is comfortable with the guy and well before she feels it is an established, long term relationship. If we continue with the idea that men need the sex to be in a committed relationship and women need the committed relationship to have sex, we will never establish an honest relationship and deception will be the norm!

Every creature lies to some extent. It can be beneficial to survival. Example, a dog will manipulate you for food or a treat by acting hungry or affectionate to get attention or food. Spiders will entice their victims to get trapped in their webs, even flowers will lure victims to be trapped and eaten by them.

I think there are more and more sociopaths, habitual liars, etc. I'm not so sure if the internet is to blame or if it just brings them out more. Although I suppose many would find it much easier to lie to a monitor than to a real person. Maybe it is the ease of communication we have now a days, maybe it's other things, perhaps a mix of everything. Whatever it is, like you said, all we can do is fine tune our BS detector.

I think it also depends on what we define as a lie. Not everything inaccurate or untrue is necessarily a lie.

I THINK I know what you mean to ask. I THINK you are asking why some men who claim to be looking for serious mates, actually want to "conquer" women, especially sexually, with no intention of staying with them or truly caring for them.

The answers are complicated, and include everything from childishness, to cultural rewards, to mental illness, to deep philosophy.

I would suggest that rather than trying to answer why many males do this, you would benefit more from figuring out why males who are that way, are so successful at fooling you.

The place I suggest you start looking, is in what techniques and hints you use, to decide who to have sex with. For example, when I was much younger, many girls and women chose to measure a males intentions, by how much money he spent on her on a date. They thought that only a serious guy would spend a lot, and that any guy who was trying to find inexpensive ways to entertain each other, were obviously garbage. I periodically see women complaining that a guy used a COUPON to get a discount at the restaurant he met her at on the date, saying that such a guy is obviously a "loser."

Meanwhile, the talk in the guys locker room, was often about how to get laid by wearing expensive clothes, driving a hot car, and spending a lot on the girl, to trick her into thinking he cared.

Perhaps you measure how much a guy really cares in other ways, such as how often he calls you, or some other indirect indication. The thing is, if your results are a repeating sequence of thinking a guy really likes you, then finding out he was just another conquest freak, then something about what you are using to decide a guy is good, is backwards or wrong.

One more thing: selfish jerks (or jerkettes) are the way they are, independently. Good people don't accidentally CAUSE jerks to be jerks. So if a guy lied to you, it's because he's a liar. NOT because you forced him to lie, by having personal standards.

First of all, she's deactivated.
She also viewed my profile, and sent an email.
Take that as you will.

Secondly, I didn't read the topic anything at all like the rest of you.

I took it to mean "playgirl", as in model-like looks. A trophy partner.

In other words, why do men date gorgeous women, and feel they've done well....regardless of all other factors, such as personality, hobbies, interests, finances, work, etc.?

Why do men feel a beautiful woman is such a catch?

That's how I read it.