Topic: Synthetic Cannabinoids (K2/Spice)
mysticalview21's photo
Mon 11/05/18 08:07 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Mon 11/05/18 08:17 PM

comes on the market again ... just changes a ingredient... and it passes code ... they also... hear say ... lot of those in pain and in or out of the military are using to feel better ... but can't be cannabis... so far have never heard any deaths from it ... even though has side effects... death from other factors... but hear helps those in pain and used for other ailments also ... not this synthetic stuff ...
die from one time use ... just saying ... and they don't know where... its coming from ... find that hard to believe ... whoa and forgot they put another opioid on the market... with lots of side affects...



https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/synthetic-cannabinoids-k2spice

Totage's photo
Mon 11/05/18 08:26 PM
Most all drugs, even the illegal ones have benefits when used properly. Of course the more powerful the drug, the more likely to be abused and misused. I'm not saying everything should be legal, nor am I saying it should be illegal. I'm just saying everything has its purpose and a lot of times when something holds a lot of power, we humans can't handle it well.

R & R's photo
Mon 11/05/18 10:07 PM
Edited by R & R on Mon 11/05/18 10:08 PM
My estranged wife used to do that stuff some years ago. Messed her up big time, as if she didn't already have enough mental and emotional issues.

It might just be that it affects different people in different ways, but from my experience you're better off staying away from it. Nasty stuff.

As for Mary J, I don't think there's ever been a whole lot of serious research done on it in the past? Anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that it helps some people with some medical issues. Fine. But from what I've seen over the years it makes people, well, dopey-and exacerbates some existing issues (such as alcohol dependence).

Personally, though, I think the Feds outlawing it is ridiculous. Actually I think all drugs should be legal for adults. Adults have a right to make their own decisions, even bad ones.

Totage's photo
Mon 11/05/18 10:38 PM

My estranged wife used to do that stuff some years ago. Messed her up big time, as if she didn't already have enough mental and emotional issues.

It might just be that it affects different people in different ways, but from my experience you're better off staying away from it. Nasty stuff.

As for Mary J, I don't think there's ever been a whole lot of serious research done on it in the past? Anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that it helps some people with some medical issues. Fine. But from what I've seen over the years it makes people, well, dopey-and exacerbates some existing issues (such as alcohol dependence).

Personally, though, I think the Feds outlawing it is ridiculous. Actually I think all drugs should be legal for adults. Adults have a right to make their own decisions, even bad ones.


If drugs were legal, they would have to find another way to profile and keep the private prisons in business. Making drugs illegal has worked pretty well for them. "Legalizing" weed on the state level is just setting them up, but then again there is a lot of money in it, so they may have shot themselves in the foot on that move, like with alcohol and tobacco.

It's not about taxing the drugs either, it's about who has more money, the private prisons or the dispensaries.

I don't think the government itself is too concerned about drugs, they have other ways to fulfill their agenda.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 11/05/18 11:30 PM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 11/05/18 11:30 PM
Adults have a right to make their own decisions, even bad ones.

I agree for the most part.
Problem is, adults do make bad decisions and it destroys more than themselves.
Society is based on unity.
Laws are "meant" to bring and keep unity in the society.
They are a societal protection mechanism.
In the case of drug laws, they protect society from the saturation of common problems prone to the abuse of the drugs.
Not all drug users have these issues but a significant number to justify a law must exist or there wouldn't be a law.