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Topic: Will there be a blue wave in November ?
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Sat 06/09/18 04:17 PM




its not silence since noone can simultaneously talk about every incident in history ever at any one time, nor should they

the topic was THIS NOVEMBER .. but to address these unrelated points ..


the 1994 Crime Bill tried to address several issues, some a miss and some a hit,

Im not sure WHERE you get your information about African american unemployment, but Clinton was president from 93 to 2001 and here is the graph of AA unemployment from 1972 to 2018



clearly showing that numbers FELL under Clinton

AFDC was merely changed to TANF, which added some limits to it, not an excuse for anyone to commit crime


I will ALSO Judge Trump on what he does, but prior to what a POTUS does, they are judged on many other things that garner the support they need to BECOME POTUS, and I will continue to consider those things too...






nice spin, ready for the actual truth.

government statistics like poverty and unemployment rates do not include incarcerated people,oooops.

speaking of incarcerated people, young black men were rotting in jails and prisons so how could they be out looking for jobs?

If you add up the unemployment rates in the african American community and add those who are doing time the true number is 42%

Professor Bruce Western of Harvard has a nice study about this.

what do you think the number is for african Americans incarcerated in the 90's under Clinton's get tough on crime rhetoric is?

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Sat 06/09/18 04:24 PM
Edited by BlakeIAM on Sat 06/09/18 04:24 PM


Please.
Your savior Obama is a complete clown.
Stop "trying" to make him seem good.

He was and is evil.

Period.



he wasnt a savior or a 'clown'. He isnt evil. He was a POTUS, just like Trump, but with many more obstacles and issues to deal with during his Presidency.





Nope.
He is evil and acted like a clown.
And , no he didn't have more obstacles and issues to deal with more then President Trump.

That is reality.

Rock's photo
Sat 06/09/18 05:25 PM
The blue wave, will amount to nothing
more, than a tsunami of liberal tears
as they eat another big bowl of defeat.


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Sat 06/09/18 06:30 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/09/18 06:32 PM





its not silence since noone can simultaneously talk about every incident in history ever at any one time, nor should they

the topic was THIS NOVEMBER .. but to address these unrelated points ..


the 1994 Crime Bill tried to address several issues, some a miss and some a hit,

Im not sure WHERE you get your information about African american unemployment, but Clinton was president from 93 to 2001 and here is the graph of AA unemployment from 1972 to 2018



clearly showing that numbers FELL under Clinton

AFDC was merely changed to TANF, which added some limits to it, not an excuse for anyone to commit crime


I will ALSO Judge Trump on what he does, but prior to what a POTUS does, they are judged on many other things that garner the support they need to BECOME POTUS, and I will continue to consider those things too...






nice spin, ready for the actual truth.

government statistics like poverty and unemployment rates do not include incarcerated people,oooops.

speaking of incarcerated people, young black men were rotting in jails and prisons so how could they be out looking for jobs?

If you add up the unemployment rates in the african American community and add those who are doing time the true number is 42%

Professor Bruce Western of Harvard has a nice study about this.

what do you think the number is for african Americans incarcerated in the 90's under Clinton's get tough on crime rhetoric is?



haaaaaaaaaaa

seriously?

the claim was there were more 'than ever', I show a chart of how they declined and the response is then that it doesn't include incarcerated ...lol

guess wha?t if it DID include incarcerated it would STILL have a downward trend ...




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Sat 06/09/18 06:35 PM
empirical evidence says different

but believe what you want to believe, most of us read reports and look at actual facts vs propaganda and propagating fictions

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Sat 06/09/18 06:39 PM

empirical evidence says different

but believe what you want to believe, most of us read reports and look at actual facts vs propaganda and propagating fictions


I'd love to finally have a conversation with some of those that look at 'actual facts'.

it would be refreshing.

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Sat 06/09/18 06:43 PM
Edited by BlakeIAM on Sat 06/09/18 06:44 PM
Yup, so would a lot of us.
Facts are foreign to left liberal Democrats.

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/09/18 06:53 PM

Yup, so would a lot of us.
Facts are foreign to left liberal Democrats.


and yet these posts by 'right conservative republicans' are all but devoid of any facts .....


BlakeIAM's photo
Sat 06/09/18 06:55 PM
If one is delusional.

waving


msharmony's photo
Sat 06/09/18 07:00 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

or understands English

FACT: a piece of information presented as having objective reality These are the hard facts of the case.

OBJECTIVE: : expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretation

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Sat 06/09/18 07:04 PM

empirical evidence says different

but believe what you want to believe, most of us read reports and look at actual facts vs propaganda and propagating fictions


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Sat 06/09/18 07:08 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/09/18 07:10 PM
RED and Blue sheep are going to drive this country over the edge, all while blaming each other.

"if you would have been with the BLUE SHEEP ... blah blah blah"
"No. blue sheep are EVIL. if you would have been with the RED SHEEP .. blah blah blah"

I keep hoping for GREY(matter) to be more meaningful than political labels.



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Sun 06/10/18 12:09 PM

Yup, so would a lot of us.
Facts are foreign to left liberal Democrats.
not foriegn, they change facts and history to suit their needs... Why else are they trying erase the history of the civil war? Oh, I noticed all that stopped when obarry left office...

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Sun 06/10/18 12:56 PM
they change facts and history to suit their needs..


something both sides keep saying about the other, even when documented fact shows the data doesnt match ...


mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/11/18 09:25 AM

they change facts and history to suit their needs..


something both sides keep saying about the other, even when documented fact shows the data doesnt match ...


no...who was removing the civil war monuments, the liberals or someone else? Why do the democrats keep changing the fact they were never for civil rights? Don't try that spin crap, its not gunna work...

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Mon 06/11/18 09:43 AM

no...who was removing the civil war monuments, the liberals or someone else? Why do the democrats keep changing the fact they were never for civil rights? Don't try that spin crap, its not gunna work...


The Democrats are for civil rights when it makes them money and keeps the minorities poor out of their neighborhood


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Mon 06/11/18 01:02 PM


they change facts and history to suit their needs..


something both sides keep saying about the other, even when documented fact shows the data doesnt match ...


no...who was removing the civil war monuments, the liberals or someone else? Why do the democrats keep changing the fact they were never for civil rights? Don't try that spin crap, its not gunna work...


yes, removing monuments has little do with changing facts....

it has to do with which parts of history a community wants to commemorate

there is no spin, put SIMPLY the south wanted slavery enough to war over it. So when the Democrats had a largely southern base, they had a largely pro bigot agenda, however, when southerners got disenchanted with 'establishment' and started to vote republican, more northerners became the Dem base and abandoned that pro bigotry agenda.



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Mon 06/11/18 01:02 PM


no...who was removing the civil war monuments, the liberals or someone else? Why do the democrats keep changing the fact they were never for civil rights? Don't try that spin crap, its not gunna work...


The Democrats are for civil rights when it makes them money and keeps the minorities poor out of their neighborhood




the democrats are for civil rights when it represents their constituency which is so seriously impacted by the need to have them ...



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Mon 06/11/18 01:16 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 06/11/18 01:19 PM



they change facts and history to suit their needs..


something both sides keep saying about the other, even when documented fact shows the data doesnt match ...


no...who was removing the civil war monuments, the liberals or someone else? Why do the democrats keep changing the fact they were never for civil rights? Don't try that spin crap, its not gunna work...


yes, removing monuments has little do with changing facts....

it has to do with which parts of history a community wants to commemorate

there is no spin, put SIMPLY the south wanted slavery enough to war over it. So when the Democrats had a largely southern base, they had a largely pro bigot agenda, however, when southerners got disenchanted with 'establishment' and started to vote republican, more northerners became the Dem base and abandoned that pro bigotry agenda.



see, you're trying to change history again... Civil war wasn't just about slavery... Sure, the South wanted slavez, but all that was changing by then. most of the rest of the world had stopped using slaves by then anyway, slavery was already on its way out by the time the civil war started ... But if you really believe that, you should thank the republicans for ending slavery then...

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Mon 06/11/18 01:30 PM
lol.. yeah, okay.

from Georgia letter of secession:
But they know the value of parchment rights in treacherous hands, and therefore they refuse to commit their own to the rulers whom the North offers us. Why? Because by their declared principles and policy they have outlawed $3,000,000,000 of our property in the common territories of the Union


from Mississippi letter of secession:
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.


from South Carolina letter of secession:
A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery



Texas secession clause:

In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law


...nah,, it wasnt over slavery ...

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