Good Afternoon, I'm sorry I took a very needed vacation spending time with my kids & my lady, but I brought a fresh topic to the forefront. Shouts out to all my Mingle 2 family... This topic well be very interesting,...America, when you hear about Rap Music & Rap Recording Labels like Def Jam, Loud Records, Wild Pitch, just to name a few, what do you know about it? Now think about it?...some say its a artistic expression thru music & lifestyle. Others my say " Its negative personas that massages narcissistic egos & image. Well what if I tell you that the reason why rap labels pushes negative music is all by true design. You say " EyeAm what you mean?" well what if I was tell you its politics behind the secret plan. I pulled up an article on " Raprehab.com" September 19th explaining that back in 2012, a controversial anonymous letter entitled " The Secret Meeting That Changed Rap Music & Destroyed a Generation". This is not about just rap but what brought the nonsense to the game. The article goes to say a letter which claims that an unnamed top music industry executives promoted gangsta rap to fill private prisons, was published by hundreds of blogs & websites & was reposted on countless forums. The private prisons industrial complex is very real & the people & entities behind it will go to surprising lengths to substain it. Okay follow me now......lets continue, I'm give you a real example of companies we didn't know invested in private prisons.

General Electric
Universal Entertainment
Interscope Records
Def Jam Records
The Nation's Largest Weapon Manufacturer
And many more1

Now let me tie it all in to what gangsta rap has to do with politics? okay , well, the ideal that music industry has manipulated rap music to glorify misogyny, violence, drugs, & materialism is a common belief held in hip hop circles. So in a nut shell they bank on the fact the more your child listen to gangsta rap the more chance your child want to emulate what she or he hears and may do a bone head act and go to prison. Like I said earlier in this topic, " Its by design......". So America, how do you feel about what you 've read? even if you don't listen to the music, I still want your thoughts, maybe you have someone in your circle that listens to the Trap Rap, or the Mumble Rap. Let's talk about this secret plan, maybe we can learn from each other on this, so voice!

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EyeAmYourHost39

EyeAmYourHost39,

Before I voice my view in all of this, I want to express Real hip hop music is not the same as Mainstream rap music. See I grew up with the culture & lifestyle. Hip Hop was about poor black & latino kids in the Bronx, New York City, taking a rhyme and relatively rhyme over a simple break beat. That was the birth of Rap. The content was back then about partying, representing your neighborhood, claiming your rap dominance as the best. Now lets fast forward, for years naysayers thought rap would die like Disco....as you can see it did die but on a smaller scale. Once rap made it on radio & TV commercials, movies, social media sites, word of mouth, through corporate America, & made a lot of people who don't care for the music & lifestyle rich, then the secret plan was being developed. I never listen to mainstream rap, I'm a father , and I grew up with the authenticity of the music. I didn't grow up today under the Trap Rap Era. Now that I know what I know, I won't say stopping listening to your favorite rap artist but research about the prison industry and the private investors participation. The Reason in my mind rap got so big well....because like or or hate it it made inspiring rap artist rich over night without paying dues. and when you are willing to push out garbage to the youth well....those who follow will buy your stuff without a thought.

EyeAmYourHost39,


Let me ask, is prisons a smart investment? Being a private investor in prisons make you a evil person? Can I be a good guy and invest in somebody's downfall & misery? Can I invest in the youth in rap music to guarantee that my prions will be filled by what they hear? America, is there a rational explanation to investing in private prisons?

when i was young i wouldn't be caught dead wearing
baggy cuffed pants like my dad wore, so i wore pegged pants
to be different than those old fogey's...was it a conspiracy
by the health industry to get me to do this so in my
later years i would develop circulation problems in my lower
limbs ? i don't think so...young people just want to be
different and will go to any length to achieve that end...

Argo63,

well its funny, you mentioned about baggy clothes I did in my early 20's, but it was in a time where that was not just hip hop fashion but young fashion. I admit I now like my pants kind of hugging my legs but not excessively tight...lol. Now I'm a 41 year old hipster, and I see fashion a lot more mature. I like to dress sexy, turtle neck sweaters with a nice leather jacket. or a nice pair of rip jeans with a nice motorcycle jacket and timberland boots, since here on the east coast now its cold.

I think that private prisons are a scam. There are several here that promise job training and other things but in reality they don't.
They are owned by their investors who may be judges, lawyers or anyone
with an interest in keeping them full.

Alleoops,

Welcome my friend, well....what prisons intentions to me are scams....lol I tell you this, the most bizarre thing I witness was I was eating lunch in a local food court in a mall here in Philly 3 suburban white youths , young men was talking about who they like in rap but then they was using the N-word towards each other......in my my I was livid, but then I had to remember that's the language used to embrace each other in black music.

EyeAmYourHost39,

America, think about it.....

we as people should really look into what corporate America invest in.

Again this not about turning people off to rap, but know its a certain agenda being pushed upon my babies ears.

Sexuality, homosexuality, "molly" usages, racism, glorifying guns, calling women out there wrong names, rappers name after drug leaders, the usage of the n-word, other atrocities in music. But can we blame just rap? what about POP artist like Miley Cyrus twerkin' on Tv, parents thought that was cute. What about Black Rock group " Body Count" with a song " Cop Killer"? What about even back in the 70's with disco music......studio 54 & how much drugs & sex was part of the nightlife culture? no matter what era you came up in , the last generation will always dislike the next music. I understand new artist have to make money, get famous, support themselves & there families. But the real money makers aren't the artist, the dee jays, or the break dancers, hell not even they management teams. its the puppet masters behind the cameras that use artist to get rich. With that bank on crime to make private investors rich.

Hey Eyeam and welcome back.

My feeling is that all music, including rap, is an art form. Just like photos, or drawings, or movies ... it tells a story and there are many stories to tell. Some of them are about the good life. Some about love. Some about partying. Some of them are also about pain and heartache. Some are about violence. And some are about sex.

I feel it is in the home that kids learn core values, BUT it is also in the community that those values will be enforced or not. I do believe rap has its place amongst adults AND amongst the millions who also live those types of lives to know they are not alone and someone 'relates' to their experiences, and also to show proof that they can come up and out of it.

The vulgar violent music is no more for children than vulgar violent movies, but it really is upon the community and the media to market appropriate material to the appropriate crowd, like the movie industry tries to do with ratings and rules for ticket purchases based on the movies.

I think that investment in prisons, from a purely financial standpoint, is probably a lucrative plan. But from a human standpoint, I think it may do more to encourage reactive incarceration in a time when not enough is being done to encourage proactive community involvement in children's lives.

Ms Harmony,

Welcome as well back, yeah it is music is about story telling, and freedom of artistic expression. In our society now a lot parents aren't monitoring they kids music like our generation. Some may asked why the radio stations keep playing the same music over & over? I tell them its to brainwash our kids and condition them to accept negativity as a norm. Its funny the craziest songs has the most catchiest hooks & the funkiest beats but its garbage. Also my opinion rap beefs is destroying the culture. you mean to tell me 2 rappers from the same hood, making the same amount of money can't co exist together? can you image ZZ Top had a rock beef with Megadeath ? sounds bizarre right?

Very little.


Very little. Just another commercial opportunity.


Some say taking a dump on a flag, shellacking it, and then taking a photo is art expression.
Anything you want to believe you can find "some say" it is true.


Pretty much anything that is subsidized by the government is part of an "industrial complex."




How about you list all of the companies that invested in private prisons.

There might be something worth investigating if those were the only companies that invested in private prisons.

Other than that, how are they invested in private prisons?
Is it direct investing and financing?
Are they simply invested in companies that have a controlling interest in private prisons? Are they invested in hedge funds and a component of them are private prisons?
Exactly how much of their portfolio is invested in private prisons?


IMO a lot of the entertainment industry glorifies misogyny, violence, drugs, and materialism and always has.

Remember super mario bros.? the 80's video game?
You ran around, collecting as much money as you can, jumping on and killing a bunch of creatures, trying to eat magic mushrooms, so you can save the incompetent princess who needs a mushroom tripping plumber to help.
Movies like Gentleman Prefer Blondes.

If rap music is glorifying misogyny, violence, drugs, and materialism, it seems like it's just another facet of the entertainment industry pursuing what they know sells.


Seems you could look at incarceration rates from the time "gangsta rap" started to when it became more popular.


Maybe.
Depends on your investment goals.
Sometimes an investment is made in one area to offset risk in another.
Maybe they just want to invest in the community, and the community they're in happens to have a private prison.


Not inherently. Otherwise all governments, states, cities would be inherently evil because they build or have prisons.

Albeit, my personal opinion is that prisons are pointless.
IMO they should be done away with. Fines, censure, and death should be the only punishments IMO.
Ostracizing isn't that effective in a globalizing world.
And that's ultimately what prisons are for. To ostracize people from the main society.

They lose even more efficacy when they become massive bloated institutions that develop their own society and groups/gangs.
Kind of like when your mom sends you to your room to think about what you did, or the teacher makes you sit and face the corner.
Not really effective as a punishment when all your siblings and aunts and uncles are in your room, or all your friends are standing with you in the corner.


Sure.
What if you buy your local prison a new library, complete with legal textbooks so they have something to work their appeals with.
Or bought them a new t.v., or industrial washer and dryer.
Or gave them money to start a work training program to help find jobs after being released.
You just invested in a prison.


Sure.
But you'd have to stick around and kind of push them towards actually performing illegal behavior, make sure they could be caught by the police, as well as found guilty at trial.
As well as make sure the crime they commit, are tried for, and the sentence leads to your particular prison.

You might want to get a judge in your pocket.

I think there was a law and order or some t.v. show about a judge getting kick backs from a juvenile detention center or something, so he kept sending kids there, for even the most basic of infractions.


Of course.
Like it or not they exist.
They are part of communities.
In those communities there are people inside and outside of that prison.
Investing in a prison may be protecting the people outside of the prison, or helping alleviate the cost burden on those outside of it, or possibly helping the people inside of it.

Other than that, from a more pedantic standpoint, private prisons are a business, investing may offer a return.


Is that why I keep hearing Metallica and that "I could walk 1,000 miles" song here in Ohio? To pump kids up with angry energy, and then get them to go outside and walk around for exercise? Because kids are too fat or something and just sit around listening to the radio?


Not really bizarre.
Metallica and Megadeth have been in a rivalry for a while.
I remember Brittney Spears and Christina Aguilera had a rivalry for a while. Especially while trying to shed their "good girl" images. Who could have the most salacious video.
There's always Paul McCartney and John Lennon.
Sammy Hagar vs. David Lee Roth.
Beatles vs. Rolling Stones.
Lots of beef's in "rock."

I think at one time it was ok ... but now has become big business ...
and that means there just might be ...corruption in that business ... with all the high $ investors ... don't believe they don't expect anything back on their investments ...do you ...

Ciretom is point on. This is crazy to me. Where is the parents responsibility? I monitored my kid as a single mom. I wouldn't blame music or anything on it. Cop out

CireTom,

Welcome Ciretom you said something very important, rap is a huge investments. in a lot of ways we can say conspiracy theories, powerful fraternities puppeting stars, & more. but one thing we can say prisons are a hot commodity. Remember a while back I did a forum topic about exposing the water industry? on a man from Texas name T.Boone Pickets a very wealthy billionaire that invested in pipelining water lakes & rivers Lake Meade to be exact.....well the prison industry found a way to make private & state to make money all they have to do is give reason to send someone to prison and we can lump a cell 4, 5 , maybe even 6 to a cell. now for every man in a cell the investors and the state get a thousand dollars per head multiply by how many you inmate in and whallllaaahhh you rich!

Yes, us whities are not allowed to use that word.. if we do.. its racist.. wrong.. terrible.. but if a black says it to a black.. well, then its perfectly fine. go figure.

i call my white buddy "cracker" all the time and
it's perfectly fine...

but if a black guy calls him that it's
racist wrong terrible...go figure

I have been a white person forever and I know of no white person who regularly calls their friends cracker.. not one.

Does any other white folks out there call their friends cracker? Lets take a vote.

its how language evolves really, there are many instances when a slang word meant as offense is altered by the offended group to use between each other. I can think of several.

I know jewish people can call each other jews, but someone of german heritage, probably not seen the same way.

I know gay people can refer to each other with the F word, but a straight person, not seen the same way.

history creates a context, some contexts are offensive and others are not.

Some contexts are contexts of inclusion and used to signal a common experience

other contexts are contexts of exclusion and used to signal a place of inferiority.

Context plays a big role in how the english language is used, and always will.

MysticView21,


I can agree , I think you right in one time in life it was a honest investment, but what happens if you continue to feed the monster, it got bigger & bigger! It's a hot commodity off of crime and a secret plan to target young men & women in rap today for the hopes to get your child to cause to be go to prisons to make a profit.

YellowRose,


To answer your question where's the parents? can I honestly say, the parents of the youth today, is the parents are younger. The parents partying with there teens & young. The parents are getting high, doing drugs, or bottom-line not interested in there children's music. Now I'm not talking you & my era parents, but the parents today. That's wonderful you monitor your children's entertainment. but the world is different now, the plan again is to brainwash your children to listen to negative rap and the mimic what the see & hear and react. then pow! prison. then the private investors get bank for per inmate.