Ms Harmony,


Remember the 70's hit show " All In The Family"? Remember Archie Bunker, on how people thought he was racist? Later it came out Archie wasn't racist but old fashion that didn't know what to say out his mouth. Remember back in the 70's those BlackExpo Films like " The Mack" " Dolomite", " Foxy Brown" " JD's Revenge" & " Superfly". Remember how black people some, took offense with the content of those classic movies. Better Yet, when the legendary movie " Scarface" was released in the after hour drive in theatres people didn't like it at first. The argument was mention that Pacino made Latinos from Cuba look like drug Czars. But the movie wasn't to portray as glorifying drugs it was a tale of one man's revenge not drugs.

I remember it all. I'm so old ...lol

The convincing portrayal of a character can lead to most offenses being forgiven. Pacino yesterday, today, and tomorrow. ..lol

Ms Harmony,


I think the line is to be funny, but don't use cultural stereotypes to make a chuckle. Example, don't do a skit on Blacks eating fried chicken. Don't do commercial on malt liquor with half naked girls with the bottles between there legs. Don't do taco bell commercials using Latin voiceovers with small dogs. I mean can you image turning the tables. a black man in full army fatigues, with a fishing pole and his blood hound advertising illegal moonshine, talking country making fun of woodsmen?.....I think the line should not bring stereotypes in it. one thing I like when back in the day bill cosby did his stand up, he never mention racial stereo types . He always focused on his family, and life scenarios. and he was funny as hell.

Ms Harmony,


don't feel bad I'm up there too.......Remember how Melvin Van Peebles movie Badass was controversial because in the movie the little kids supposed to be Mario as a child and his dad in the movie took him to see " Badaass" and it had a few pornographic secnes and his wife was arguing not to take young Mario to see that movie?

Sure.
Apartheid could be considered "reverse racism" as it was a minority of the overall population in South Africa promoting and enforcing racist policies, behavior, and beliefs against the majority.


Depends on how far "back in the day" you want to go.

At one point "back in the day" it was just humor or satire or drama or whatever. No different (to the performers, or desired audience) than Eddie Murphy putting on a fat suit and farting a lot. Or Robin Williams/Dustin Hoffman/Tom Hanks putting on a dress and affecting a falsetto voice.

At one point "back in the day" it became offensive.


No matter what you do, you're going to offend someone.
Crying racism is just a tool people seem to use any more to elicit a desired reaction from others. To make their pain and problems seem more severe.
For people to give themselves a sense of victimhood (and subsequent entitlement and attention it elicits), gravitas, and importance in the overall society which they don't have as an individual.
IMO most cries of racism anymore are little different than crying wolf.

IMO possibly because they aren't smart enough to understand their own feelings enough to figure out if they are actually offended or if they think they are just supposed to be and simply want to lash out against something.


Huh?
"Menstrual thinking?" Does that mean overly sensitive and emotional?

I don't know if it was like black face.
What was her intent? To personify a character? Or promote and enforce a racial stereotype?

If I wasn't so lazy, on Halloween I'd probably try to make myself look like Leon Phelps (Tim Meadows, The Ladies Man) and go up to women in bars and say "Can I ask you a question? Uh... was your father a meat burglar? Because it looks like someone stole two fine hams and put them down the back of your dress."
I think of that line at least 6 times a week ever since I saw that movie about 15 years ago. A woman broke up with me because it offended her that I said it once when I was fondling her butt.
She had a very nice butt. Fine hams indeed.
She didn't call me racist, though. Just insensitive since she thought I was calling her fat.

My dad always called pushing your butt against the window to moon people "pressing hams." He'd say to my friends and I, "you boys been driving around pressing hams tonight?" That's what he thought we did, because that is what he did when he was our age.
I guess pulling down your pants and showing your butt to people used to be the height of juvenile hilarity. I think it's sexual harassment now and might lead to having to register on a government website.

She might call me racist now. Whenever I drive up Main in Dayton, OH, and hear screaming, or possibly gun shots, or see sketchy characters walking up to my car, I say to myself "roll em up!" like Chevy Chase from National Lampoon's Vacation, as I roll up my windows.
Sad thing is a couple women were dismembered off main not too long ago, and one woman was shot and she sat at a convenience store for half an hour until someone asked if she was okay.
It's a bad area and predominantly black. Except for the hookers that are always walking around, they seem to be predominantly white.


I think comedians need to know their audience and read the room.
Stand up comedy is directly linked to the old minstrel shows.
We might not have stand up comedy at all if people didn't "back in the day" start the minstrel and burlesque shows.

Other than that, I don't really find it offensive, nor all that funny.
IMO it's little different than comedians that perform routines like: "you know you're a redneck...white people dance like this...white women be like...black women be like...Asians are all like..."
If they're dressing up like another race, then they're just a prop comic like Carrot Top, IMO.

Personally and probably off topic I enjoy more like 3 Stooges or AFV brand of slapstick comedy. It's not funny unless someone is getting hit in the head or nuts with a hammer.
And puns...like Steven Wright. And self deprecating, like Patton Oswalt. And political/topical like Dennis Miller, George Carlin, and Jon Stewart.


I don't think that's really possible.
Those are inherent to advertising and shortcut communication.
Think the Marlboro Man, the "everyday mom" that's in every commercial. Flo from progressive. Any commercial where you got the guy forgetting something or needing the wife to force him to take out the garbage or do some kind of chore or explain something to him.

Think of pretty much any character in any mainstream blockbuster ever.

Filmmakers, advertisers, look for people that represent stereotypes as a means for as many viewers as possible to connect in some way to that character.
At best they attempt to avoid negative stereotypes. Mostly to make sure to generate as big an audience as possible to form a positive association with whatever they're selling or saying.


I didn't see much of Cosby's standup "back in the day."
I was still a kid. I watched Nickelodeon and thought "You Can't Do That on T.V." and sliming was the height of hilarity.
Then I started watching The Cosby Show to feel more like an adult, because Robotech and Thundercats were for weekends and Whiz Kids and Manimal were canceled. And it beat the crap out of My Two Dads.
I thought the Cosby show was funny, never really thought of him as a black guy just a dad with a bunch of kids and kind of a stuffy wife who probably made him wear those ugly sweaters, like maybe they were all Christmas presents, like when I had to wear the ugly clothes my mom and grandma gave me rather than letting me just wear my lounge lizard kmart tshirt.

But I lost interest in Cosby when the Simpsons started airing.
Eat my shorts man was more funny.

Ciretom,


Wow, well I see you answers my quotes. its a lot of read but I try to commit to your response. You right race will always be a factor, again a factor in America. White America don't like to bring race in the equation but its like the name god, them more you try to remove god out of everything the more it shows god place in this country is always a factor. Race is the same. When it comes to mainstream entertainment, movie writers & producers want to create hits. what do black people do best on tv & radio ? well that's entertain. so when you allow mainstream writers to write a script, they tend to throw buffoonery in the acts to create laughs and a mass appeal for a mega hit. Sometimes racial stereo types are used in comedy because those who are the butt of them like to see the perceptions manifest on screen. Let me ask you this, I don't know if you follow director Spike Lee? He has a film called " Bamboozled. Bamboozled addressed black movie menstruals along with black face slap comedies. In the movie did the same as the white college student. instead of white people in black faces in the movie the movie writer in the movie decided to use black people in black faces. When the movie hit the box offices they had a campaigned to boycott that movie.

it was friggin Halloween. The day you can dress up in whatever you want. Don't like it.. don't look.

you want weird.. you want " non PC".. watch the gay Halloween parade in NYC.. they break EVERY rule.. but still get a standing ovation from the PC public.

Hypocrites ;)