pot, kettle, pot, kettle, pot, kettle,,,,

so tell us all, since 2k showed you what you already new about hillary, what has trump lied about?(in his 8 months in office vrs 30 years of hillary)

2k just showed me people will shrug off perceived offenses attached to penis in power much easier than perceived offenses attached to vagina in power


I will not simply cut and paste from my favorite site , it is simpler for me to print the sources outright so you can read for yourself,

each side has such sites they can go to for these every claim of 'lies' or 'scandal'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/22/president-trumps-list-of-false-and-misleading-claims-tops-1000/?utm_term=.3f879ddb3a0b

OR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=0

You got the name wrong. Its not obarry...its obummer! HA

in regards to the 'opposite' I was referring to

Mom posted this:

I think he divided us more on race..among other things.
I honestly think Killary is a nasty sketchy biotch.that lies to much,and would always be out for herself.

In comparison to Trump, whom I also voted for, I think the Good outweighs the bad.... Let me just put my personal opinion out here..
I love the way Trump has a big set of Balls and not afraid to use them for all of us as a whole. He has shown compassion, love hatred he has tried to seek our thoughts on most things before he takes action.I like the way he speaks up for all us...I like the fact that for him being so well off,if you will and me being from the rougher poor working side...He talks just enough ghetto REAL **** for even the most average American can understand.He is human

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But

to me, what I saw was that a black president only put a spotlight on division that was ALREADY there, as opposed to that president causing it.

to me, I see no evidence of Hillary being 'nasty' or 'sketchy' but rather being framed negatively for the things that her male colleagues do on the regular. I see evidence of her lying, of course, but no more than her male counter parts, again. I also see her having done for many people in her life that show she is just not 'for herself'

In comparison to Trump, who I see as the one always out for himself.
I think the childish and deceptive outweighs the good. I see his tendency to use his 'balls' as more childish than admirable. and wish he would use his BRAINS instead.

I have little reason to believe that after 70 years of a financially privileged life of giving NOTHING back, exploiting laborers, avoiding the military, and paying taxes. that he suddenly is interested in doing anything 'for all of us.'

I dont see him speaking up for Mexicans, blacks, muslims, or immigrants who are part of 'all of us' but rather speaking up only for Trump and how superior he thinks he is along with any other white males of his financial status.

My problem is he feigns 'ghetto' real talk even though he has no experience and has never wanted anything to do with those 'ghetto' real folks who he is also supposed to represent. That and the fact he talks out of both sides of his mouth, doesnt know what he is doing, and flourishes on a steady diet of infusing fear of others and vitriol against anyone who criticizes or disapproves of him or his performance.

That is the OPPOSITE view, I was talking about.

this is the face of a true hero for our future , she is warning everyone that the Russians are coming. This coming from someone that was saying for the past 8 years that she want to reset relations and how they could be a ally. A little more than a year ago she was cozing up to Putin now she's warning is how we were attacked by Russia during the election . Maybe we should call her Paula Revere , the Russians are cheating me, the Russians are cheating me. She's getting as senile as Nancy pelosi or that crazy which that wants to impeach anybody that's white.

and this is the face of the woman who might just knows the alternative the best

not sure what your trying to say here but I'm sure she knows the man in the Oval Office is the right person for this job

Making a point about the things we choose to 'admire' in others.

Identity Politics

I have no problem pointing out she has faults. Tunnelvision often confuses people about what I 'always' do in these threads but I have also pointed out her weaknesses and flaws myself.

I have problems with how her faults are embellished while others are downplayed or ignored or twisted into positive attributes in someone else.

I hope so too.

I think she has worked long enough in the part of the civil service industry that scrutinizes and obstructs. I hope she continues in the behind the scenes part of the civil service industry that advocates for others though.

C'mon msh "tunnel vision" kettle, pot, kettle, pot
I often wonder how far some people see past their windscreen. I am human and I don't have tunnel vision. I'm a big picture guy!

yes, tunnelvision. the tendency to focus exclusively on a single or limited goal or point of view.

like how despite the fact that I post on many topics in many threads that OTHERS have started, I am somehow seen as someone who 'only' comments about this, that or the other.

Kettle pot kettle pot is a description of how some do the very things they post personal attacks towards others about.

I am human and also don't have tunnel vision. I'm also a big picture gal.

How bout you have a funny bone too? Or are you really serious? I think Hillary is a concern, and on the world wide stage.

I have a funny bone when people say something funny, of course.

I think Hillary was better qualified and would do a better job and showed more of a history of knowledge and caring.

I think every trait I hear people bash regarding Clinton, Trump has in DROVES.


I think Trump is a concern, because he seems like there is nothing between his ears but air and fluff and nothing in his history of privilege but conning, lining his pockets, and standing for nothing except the best gamble of the moment.

The guy is 70 years old. Do you think he is doing this because it's the best gamble for the moment?
You know Jeffrey worked on him for a long time to get him to do the apprentice. Show that I didn't care for.

The lady is NEARLY 70 years old as well. And yes, I do think his motivation is more personal embellishment for his profile.

Articles I found ...interesting
Hillary Clinton, exploiting the venue of her appearance in Springfield, Ill. — where Abraham Lincoln warned against "a house divided" — told America that Donald Trump is not fit to lead in times of racial tension. This is rich, considering that she served under the most racially divisive president in American history.

On the very site where Lincoln denounced slavery, Clinton said: "Trump's campaign adds up to an ugly, dangerous message to America — a message that you should be afraid." Clinton said Trump is "pitting American against American" when we need "a president who can help pull us together, not split us apart."

The stinging irony is that Clinton is now the standard-bearer for a political party whose lifeblood depends on stirring racial tensions and alienating blacks from whites. There is no other way for the Democrats to continue garnering 90 percent of the African-American vote.

Under the guise of posing as the exclusive guardians of African-Americans, Clinton, President Obama and the entire Democratic apparatus do far more actual damage to race relations and the plight of American blacks than Republicans are accused of doing in the Democrats' imaginary world of self-serving, race-baiting propaganda.

Does Clinton think so little of African-Americans that she assumes it's endearing to them for her to recite black poetry in a grotesquely patronizing accent or to say that she is the spouse of Bill Clinton, America's "first black president"?

Democratic Party leaders know that neither Republicans nor their policy agenda is anti-black. They know that Republicans believe that conservative policies — including extricating blacks from the enslaving cycle of government dependency and inferior inner-city schools and doing everything within their power to prevent further government-imposed damage to the nuclear family — will help lift black families out of poverty.

But Democrats say otherwise because their lies work. They say George W. Bush denied aid to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina because blacks disproportionately suffered there. They say Republicans support tax cuts and welfare reform because they want to benefit "the rich" and are unconcerned about blacks.

Yet conservative policies have been effective at lifting up black families, decelerating the breakdown of the family and restoring the human dignity of those quagmired in the endless welfare trap. Indeed, empirical evidence demonstrated that Republican-based welfare reform legislation, reluctantly signed by President Bill Clinton the third time it was placed on his desk, inarguably benefited blacks.

But Obama deliberately unraveled the program anyway.

Obama's policies have been disastrous for blacks, whose unemployment levels are dangerously high. But he never accepts responsibility for his failures, preferring instead to scapegoat Republicans and their alleged lack of compassion for African-Americans and the poor.

Somehow it's the Republicans' fault that Obama has failed — even though he's advanced his agenda in ways he guaranteed would help, not hurt, blacks.




It's not just Obama's policies that harm blacks but also his intentionally divisive rhetoric.

You see, Obama is worse than the most race-exploiting Democratic politicians. Obama takes it a step further because he appears to really believe the vile words he spews on race.

Based on his books, his policies, his rhetoric for eight years and his unwillingness to discipline himself not to inject race at each and every opportunity, no matter how inappropriate, Obama obviously has deep and bitter feelings about race.

He showed that again in his regrettable remarks at the memorial service for the Dallas police officers murdered by a lone black gunman with racist malice aforethought.

Obama's comments were predictable, given his deplorable track record of insensitivity and agitation, but that doesn't make them any less repugnant.

You would think that at a funeral of fallen cops — ones murdered by a self-avowed hater of cops and whites — Obama would keep his powder dry.

He could have just been neutral — silent on the matter.

Instead, he launched into a diatribe about the allegedly unequal treatment of blacks in the criminal justice system.

Let me ask you: If you were the parent of an individual slain at the hands of a certain hater, would you want the eulogizer to shift into criminal defense mode for the killer?

Would you expect him to categorically denounce the criminal justice system and law enforcement as racially tainted, to whatever degree? Would you expect him to stump for gun control? To align himself with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

I'm probably too idealistic in this area, but I find it tragic that many refuse to wear color blinders with respect to political and legal matters. To me, it's sad that people vote for candidates on the basis of race.

Maybe others were just as unrealistic to believe that Obama, because of his race, would usher in a period of racial harmony. But seeing as many Americans did cast their vote for Obama at least partially based on his race — twice — couldn't we at least have expected more from Obama than his scorched-earth pattern of racial divisiveness?

I pray and pray that one day, a significant percentage of all minorities in this nation will come to realize that one political party is exploiting and damaging them, and it's not the party they think it is.

The Case For Trump: Trump Has Balls. Voters Like Balls.

Trump balls





ByBen Shapiro
@benshapiro
February 16, 2016


In Team America: World Police, the hero of the film, Gary Johnston attempts to infiltrate a terrorist group. The terrorist leader is skeptical until Johnston launches into an explanation of his “pain and sadness.” He says:


I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in their Blackhawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fiery black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats screaming for help. As quickly as they had come, the infidels were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too.

The terrorist replies: “I like you. You have balls. I like…balls.”

Welcome to the Donald Trump campaign.

Trump’s supporters disproportionately like that Trump has balls. Mark Cunningham of The New York Post correctly surmises that the rest of the field and the media are “only now realizing that much of what Trump’s been doing is just busting balls…It can be a test of manliness, a sign of respect, a way of bonding, and much more.” And so far, all of the Republicans have failed at the ball-busting game. Trump has been telling them to get their shineboxes, and they’ve been struggling for comebacks.

Americans are looking for a candidate with balls because they feel castrated. President Obama has spent eight years telling Americans that they are racist imperialists who have to get their testosterone in check. Hillary Clinton says that America must curb its mannish impulses, which result in anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minority tendencies; Bernie Sanders says we must override our impulse toward economic explosiveness in favor of a kinder, gentler redistributionism – utilizing the government gun, of course. The media and Hollywood tell us that strong women don’t need men, that strong men are universally villains.

Trump’s candidacy represents a visceral response to all of that. He plays like an extra from a gangster movie. He makes ridiculous, over-the-top promises, then stamps them with his personal guarantee. He has never crossed paths with humility; he’s never seen a deal he couldn’t make, a project he couldn’t build. His opponents aren’t opponents – they’re enemies. Everything Trump does, he does big. Everything Trump does, he does bold. Trump is Joe Pesci in Goodfellas, and if somebody tells him to get his shinebox, he’ll call them a “motherf***er” and them beat them to death. He’ll call Ted Cruz a “p****.” He'll talk about Megyn Kelly bleeding from her wherever. He’ll talk about beating up protesters at his rallies. He’ll win for us because he’s willing to do anything. The more vulgar he gets, the more we like him. The brasher he gets, the more we like him. The more outrageous his promises, the more insulting his tone, the more he shouts over his political opposition, the more we like him.

He has balls. Voters like balls.

There are two problems with the balls-only version of American politics. First, balls are necessary, but in service of an actual ideology. All balls and no brains makes Johnny a stupid bully. That’s what Trump is. He’s the unbridled id of American politics, unmoored from principle. Which means that, like Pesci in Goodfellas, you never know when he’s going to snap and shoot Spider for no reason.

Second, American politics wasn’t supposed to be a gangster film. It was supposed to be checks and balances to prevent anyone from consolidating all power. The goal of every gangster flick is monopolistic dominance of turf. The goal of American politics is avoiding such dominance so that Americans can be left alone.

But after a decade of testosterone-free politics, the pendulum is now swinging back the other way. And there are a lot of Republican voters – and Americans -- who want an unapologetic pair of balls more than a Constitutional conservative. After all, at least the balls won’t back down in the face of a fight
One lesson I’ve learned from working for Donald Trump is that you have to pay attention to what he does, not what he says. The left and the media are on a rampage accusing President Trump of being a racist and Nazi-KKK sympathizer because of his words in response to the horrid events in Charlottesville.

Let’s all accept two truths: first, that every sane person denounces the violence and racial hatred displayed in Charlottesville by far right-fringe white supremacists. And second that Mr. Trump should have shown better judgment in his seeming defense of these crazed groups carrying around torches and Confederate flags as if celebrating a darker period in our history.

Words matter for sure, but actions do speak louder than words. Leftists believe that good intentions are more important than results. If you meant well and your heart is in the right place, that’s what really matters according to this creed. As Bill Clinton put it so famously: “I feel your pain.” And that was enough.


No one cared more about the plight of black Americans than Barack Obama — our first black president — who won well more than 90 percent of the black vote. But the sad paradox of Mr. Obama’s presidency is that a president who was going to lift up black America economically, didn’t deliver. From 2009 to 2015 the incomes of black Americans fell by more than $900 per family adjusted for inflation.

So far under Mr. Trump median family incomes have risen by more than $1,000 according to Sentier Research and based on Census Bureau numbers. These numbers are not broken down by race, but it’s a pretty good bet that black incomes have risen with those of other races under Mr. Trump.

One example of an Obama/Democratic policy with good intentions that hurt black Americans was the minimum wage increase. This had a statistically significant negative effect on black teenage labor force participation rates by driving inner city youth with little training out of the workforce.


Balls....
Donald Trump's straight tell-it-like-it-is approach have been especially successful as it appeals to a lot of more conservative voters. This appeal was increased heavily by the terrorist activities in Paris and shootings such as in San Bernadino. The people are tired of President Obama's "cautionary" approach and likes someone who say that they will get things done




I almost regretted putting my true thoughts out there because I knew they would be nitpicked and analyzed. I did add JMO.oh and reason I copy and paste is I am still to ignorant to copy the linky and send it to M2..*gives big eyeroll of embarrassment..

I find it interesting that a few controversial yet considerably tame statements from Obama are perceived as 'vile' and 'divisive'

but the actual DIVISIVE statements from Trump are credited to his 'balls'


I find it equally interesting that there is so much false information being reiterated as if its verifiable fact

and that Clinton doing her job under the President is criticized yet Trump actually ENDORSING her during that time is brushed off , yet again

the penis gets a pass that the vagina or the brown skin rarely does


different perceptions or double standards? Who knows?