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I have heard mosques amd church have helped Harvey. I have also read contradictions with Osteen. He even said the main reason (before the flooding) was they didn't ask for the church to be a shelter. Thwy way I was raised, the church shouldn't have to be asked. This was a mega church that could help those in need. The basement and parking garage doesn't matter. If it could help, it should help, even if it is short term. The church isn't owned by him and gets tax benefits The first time I have seen anything about Mosques opening their doors was today... Have not seen post about other Churches opening doors.. As far as who opens their doors for those to take shelter if the bottom floor is flooding with all the Electrical why would anyone expect it to be a shelter.. But truth is the City of Houston declares which places are shelters when they opened the Stadium when Katrina hit due to the location and all they found out that places of that size is not always the best to open up.... Just tell me if they city is flooding how long you think the bathrooms will work?? Here is what happen with Katrina and the Stadium I'm sure the City of Houston did not want to repeat this and tried to get people in shelters that could actually provide for them long term... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Hurricane_Katrina_on_the_Louisiana_Superdome Hurricane Katrina Inside the Superdome, August 28. Approximately 9,000 residents and 550 National Guardsmen sheltered in the Superdome as Katrina came ashore on August 28, 2005. Maj. Gen. Bennett C. Landreneau, Adjutant General for the Louisiana National Guard, said that the number of people taking shelter in the Superdome rose to around 15,000–20,000 as search and rescue teams brought more people from areas hit hard by the flooding. Officials set up security checkpoints and confiscated alcohol, weapons, and illicit drugs from those seeking refuge in the building.[2] The Superdome was built to withstand most catastrophes. The roof was estimated to be able to withstand winds with speeds of up to 200 mph (320 km/h) but flood waters could still possibly reach the second level 20 feet (6.1 m) from the ground, making the structure an unreliable shelter in severe rain and wind. When looking into the origins of the claims about 200 mph (320 km/h) wind security in the Superdome, CNN reported that no engineering study had ever been completed on the amount of wind the structure could withstand.[citation needed] The building's engineering study was underway as Hurricane Katrina approached and was put on hold. It was used as an emergency shelter although it was neither designed nor tested for the task. However, the damage to the roof was not catastrophic, with just two relatively small holes and the ripping off of most of the easily replaceable white rubber membrane on the outer layer. On August 29, 2005, at about 9:00 AM EDT, reports from inside the Superdome were that part of the roof was "peeling off," daylight could be seen from inside the dome, and rain was pouring in. The Associated Press stated there were two holes, "each about 15 to 20 feet (6.1 m) long and 4 to 5 feet (1.5 m) wide," and that water was making its way in at elevator shafts and other small openings.[3] The same morning, during an interview on ABC news, Governor Kathleen Blanco called the Superdome shelter strategy an "experiment," when asked if it could hold the storm or the flood.[citation needed] |
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There's a few mosques open for shelter here...for a list, go to khou.com, or here is a direct link...
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I have heard mosques amd church have helped Harvey. I have also read contradictions with Osteen. He even said the main reason (before the flooding) was they didn't ask for the church to be a shelter. Thwy way I was raised, the church shouldn't have to be asked. This was a mega church that could help those in need. The basement and parking garage doesn't matter. If it could help, it should help, even if it is short term. The church isn't owned by him and gets tax benefits The first time I have seen anything about Mosques opening their doors was today... Have not seen post about other Churches opening doors.. As far as who opens their doors for those to take shelter if the bottom floor is flooding with all the Electrical why would anyone expect it to be a shelter.. But truth is the City of Houston declares which places are shelters when they opened the Stadium when Katrina hit due to the location and all they found out that places of that size is not always the best to open up.... Just tell me if they city is flooding how long you think the bathrooms will work?? Here is what happen with Katrina and the Stadium I'm sure the City of Houston did not want to repeat this and tried to get people in shelters that could actually provide for them long term... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Hurricane_Katrina_on_the_Louisiana_Superdome Hurricane Katrina Inside the Superdome, August 28. Approximately 9,000 residents and 550 National Guardsmen sheltered in the Superdome as Katrina came ashore on August 28, 2005. Maj. Gen. Bennett C. Landreneau, Adjutant General for the Louisiana National Guard, said that the number of people taking shelter in the Superdome rose to around 15,000–20,000 as search and rescue teams brought more people from areas hit hard by the flooding. Officials set up security checkpoints and confiscated alcohol, weapons, and illicit drugs from those seeking refuge in the building.[2] The Superdome was built to withstand most catastrophes. The roof was estimated to be able to withstand winds with speeds of up to 200 mph (320 km/h) but flood waters could still possibly reach the second level 20 feet (6.1 m) from the ground, making the structure an unreliable shelter in severe rain and wind. When looking into the origins of the claims about 200 mph (320 km/h) wind security in the Superdome, CNN reported that no engineering study had ever been completed on the amount of wind the structure could withstand.[citation needed] The building's engineering study was underway as Hurricane Katrina approached and was put on hold. It was used as an emergency shelter although it was neither designed nor tested for the task. However, the damage to the roof was not catastrophic, with just two relatively small holes and the ripping off of most of the easily replaceable white rubber membrane on the outer layer. On August 29, 2005, at about 9:00 AM EDT, reports from inside the Superdome were that part of the roof was "peeling off," daylight could be seen from inside the dome, and rain was pouring in. The Associated Press stated there were two holes, "each about 15 to 20 feet (6.1 m) long and 4 to 5 feet (1.5 m) wide," and that water was making its way in at elevator shafts and other small openings.[3] The same morning, during an interview on ABC news, Governor Kathleen Blanco called the Superdome shelter strategy an "experiment," when asked if it could hold the storm or the flood.[citation needed] |
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Moe, actually they do talk about that as well as the 3 that died there one was suicide he jumped off the bleachers.. It was horrible what all happened to that place...
It is all in that link.... People have to consider if you are making a place prior a shelter for others it has to be considered if it is good or not to have people staying in it.. Who knows now he is saying that Houston asked for the Church to help out once the flooding had went down.. As a focal point to hold supplies in order to give out.. He has stated the Mayor of Houston had contacted them prior to work that out which he agreed too.. Too many are putting blame out when all that energy could go else where... In the end everyone that is in that area will know who did or did not help... |
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I have heard mosques amd church have helped Harvey. I have also read contradictions with Osteen. He even said the main reason (before the flooding) was they didn't ask for the church to be a shelter. Thwy way I was raised, the church shouldn't have to be asked. This was a mega church that could help those in need. The basement and parking garage doesn't matter. If it could help, it should help, even if it is short term. The church isn't owned by him and gets tax benefits The first time I have seen anything about Mosques opening their doors was today... Have not seen post about other Churches opening doors.. As far as who opens their doors for those to take shelter if the bottom floor is flooding with all the Electrical why would anyone expect it to be a shelter.. But truth is the City of Houston declares which places are shelters when they opened the Stadium when Katrina hit due to the location and all they found out that places of that size is not always the best to open up.... Just tell me if they city is flooding how long you think the bathrooms will work?? Here is what happen with Katrina and the Stadium I'm sure the City of Houston did not want to repeat this and tried to get people in shelters that could actually provide for them long term... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Hurricane_Katrina_on_the_Louisiana_Superdome Hurricane Katrina Inside the Superdome, August 28. Approximately 9,000 residents and 550 National Guardsmen sheltered in the Superdome as Katrina came ashore on August 28, 2005. Maj. Gen. Bennett C. Landreneau, Adjutant General for the Louisiana National Guard, said that the number of people taking shelter in the Superdome rose to around 15,000–20,000 as search and rescue teams brought more people from areas hit hard by the flooding. Officials set up security checkpoints and confiscated alcohol, weapons, and illicit drugs from those seeking refuge in the building.[2] The Superdome was built to withstand most catastrophes. The roof was estimated to be able to withstand winds with speeds of up to 200 mph (320 km/h) but flood waters could still possibly reach the second level 20 feet (6.1 m) from the ground, making the structure an unreliable shelter in severe rain and wind. When looking into the origins of the claims about 200 mph (320 km/h) wind security in the Superdome, CNN reported that no engineering study had ever been completed on the amount of wind the structure could withstand.[citation needed] The building's engineering study was underway as Hurricane Katrina approached and was put on hold. It was used as an emergency shelter although it was neither designed nor tested for the task. However, the damage to the roof was not catastrophic, with just two relatively small holes and the ripping off of most of the easily replaceable white rubber membrane on the outer layer. On August 29, 2005, at about 9:00 AM EDT, reports from inside the Superdome were that part of the roof was "peeling off," daylight could be seen from inside the dome, and rain was pouring in. The Associated Press stated there were two holes, "each about 15 to 20 feet (6.1 m) long and 4 to 5 feet (1.5 m) wide," and that water was making its way in at elevator shafts and other small openings.[3] The same morning, during an interview on ABC news, Governor Kathleen Blanco called the Superdome shelter strategy an "experiment," when asked if it could hold the storm or the flood.[citation needed] I heard about it a couple of days ago http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2017/08/27/233347/list-of-houston-area-shelters-for-those-forced-out-of-homes/amp/ |
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Moe, actually they do talk about that as well as the 3 that died there one was suicide he jumped off the bleachers.. It was horrible what all happened to that place... It is all in that link.... People have to consider if you are making a place prior a shelter for others it has to be considered if it is good or not to have people staying in it.. Who knows now he is saying that Houston asked for the Church to help out once the flooding had went down.. As a focal point to hold supplies in order to give out.. He has stated the Mayor of Houston had contacted them prior to work that out which he agreed too.. Too many are putting blame out when all that energy could go else where... In the end everyone that is in that area will know who did or did not help... |
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Judge Ed Emmett said in a press conference Sunday afternoon that the city is setting up shelters and working hard to get people who need assistance to those locations.
And they stated the above in that link~~~ Just saying the City has control where people should be sent.. I'm not saying he was wrong or right for not opening the doors just saying it very well could have been the choice that even the Mayor felt was not the right place to shelter others.. Regardless what choices were made good or bad.. many jumped to conclusions without all the facts before them... We can point fingers all day long in the end pointing those fingers have done nothing to solve the issue... 
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Judge Ed Emmett said in a press conference Sunday afternoon that the city is setting up shelters and working hard to get people who need assistance to those locations.
And they stated the above in that link~~~ Just saying the City has control where people should be sent.. I'm not saying he was wrong or right for not opening the doors just saying it very well could have been the choice that even the Mayor felt was not the right place to shelter others.. Regardless what choices were made good or bad.. many jumped to conclusions without all the facts before them... We can point fingers all day long in the end pointing those fingers have done nothing to solve the issue...
Exactly. There are different sides. I happen to not believe him. As a church, they should do all they can. I know many churches and businesses in DFW that have little but doing all they can. |
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True but until the Mayor is asked if that was the conversation guess we will not know..
But again the basement/lower parking garage area was flooded.. Maybe not within the main building but you are asking for another disaster putting people in a building with any water on any floor when it comes to electrical... Just saying not somewhere I would choose to put people if there were other resources that would house them better.. |
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True but until the Mayor is asked if that was the conversation guess we will not know.. But again the basement/lower parking garage area was flooded.. Maybe not within the main building but you are asking for another disaster putting people in a building with any water on any floor when it comes to electrical... Just saying not somewhere I would choose to put people if there were other resources that would house them better.. I disagree. I think he back peddled and was "shamed" into opening the doors |
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MIghtyMoe
EyeAm's Language......Machtiger Moe, "Vielen Dank Furs Das Update." Means- MightyMoe, Thank you again for the update. " Ich Hoffe Der Sturm Hat Niemanden Getotet". Means - I hope no one got killed. " Halten Sie Sich,Daruber Aus Wei Sie Es Sehen Und Fuhlen. Means- Keep voicing about how you feel about how you see it & feel. So I gave it to you in my Deutschland language. |
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Edited by
EyeAmYourHost39
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Wed 08/30/17 05:29 PM
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Ms Harmony,
Eye's Lingo! "Ms. Harmonie, " Ich Stimme Dur Zu " "Ich Schatze Diche Recht" "Kirchen Helfen Nur" " Wein Die Leute Auch Helfen" English - I agree with you, I guess you right. Churches only can help if the people help as well in other areas. |
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one thing people should remember, is that he couldn't just let 20,000 pe0ple in without adequate supplies...food,water,toilets,clothes...what would have happened if he did with nothing to help them with?
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Remember, it's not a Church, it's a Bidness.
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AlleOops
Lol i like that ..... A bidness. |
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