I think the biggest reason for corruption, is the(perfectly sane) desire to.not wanting your family to suffer under the same burden as the majority of the populace. If I had to choose between being fair to the masses, or enabling my family the opportunity to live above everyone else, I would look after my own.

I think some fantasize that picking the right 'side' will cause them to trickle down their lifestyle onto them

The Right or the Left side

When a country has citizens being oppressed and abused and killed by a dictator government, how can other countries help?

To impose sanctions, stopping money or food, also takes resources from those just trying to survive the dicators rule

To drop bombs or start wars in their countries, also ends up with casualties of those that need the help.


I have been watching some of the terrible things happening to north koreans and I just wonder if there is any way for the rest of the world to help them.

it's hard for a liberal to understand how to deal with a bully besides going to a safe place and hide... sadly for yall, that won't work with "bully" world leaders... brute force is the only way to deal with them... they've proved that talking don't do squat, just makes the drama last longer... to bad south Korea says no to an invasion, they do not want a war on the Korean peninsula... but we can't let a little crazy person dictate policy to the US, because he's just going to get crazier every time we don't retaliate...

don't you believe that the situation in Iraq and Lybia, for example, are worse than it was when they were ruled by the bully leaders they had?

don't you believe that the situation in Iraq and Lybia, for example, are worse than it was when they were ruled by the bully leaders they had?

of course, they are much worse, and syria will be as well... but those are different types of thought processes going on there, with fanatics on all sides trying to take over so they can enforce their rules on everyone else... we should have never destabilized that region... that wouldn't happen in NK, the people there are not fanatics...

How did the other countries achieve a semblance of Democracy? Was it always handed down to them by other nations? No. They fought for it.
How did India gained it's independence?
How did Algeria do it?
How did Ireland do it?
Scotland?
South Africa?

That's the problem with you democrats. You think people are always waiting for you to save them.
You wanna save a country? Save your own, it's going to hell as I write this.

Lets do look at how various countries gained their independence.

India? Did India escape rule by Britain by fighting? Actually, no, not really. Most of the job was done by a combination of the exhaustion of Britain by World War 2, and by international pressure, inspired by Ghandi's movement.

Algeria? Sort of, but again, the Algerians were fighting a long time before France decided to stop trying to hold on to them.

Ireland? Mostly achieved by themselves, but again, they benefited from the cost to Britain of fighting a world war (One, that time), as well as the external pressure of self-determination.

Scotland? Scotland isn't independent.

South Africa? Peaceful independence.

What about the United States? Gained independence through foreign intervention. Specifically, French intervention.


Something else to look at, I suggest, is what used to be known here, as East Germany. After the dissipation of the USSR, lots of "experts" were sure that the East Germans would NOT want to join with the West, but would want to remain independent. They assumed that the German people of the East, having been under Soviet domination for a half century, would want very much to remain separate. The "experts" were just as correct as they had been in predicting the collapse of the Soviet itself.

So. Are the N.K. people similar to the Germans, and would they blossom into normalcy the moment they are freed from oppression? Somehow? Or is there really something to the idea that people have to be "trained" or "prepared" for self-rule?