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Topic: twin flames
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Mon 05/22/17 02:10 PM

I don't mean to throw cold water on the romance of all of this kind of thing, but you did ask about "how real it can be."

The concepts of things like soul mates and twin flames and the like CAN be just romantic metaphors, or they can be religious/magic ideals, or they can be like folk tales we tell ourselves as encouragement. In my direct experience, I have found that they can be a nice way to express one's love and determination for someone, but that when too much belief is poured into the idea that there are real external forces which guide us, people tend to get lost.

The absolute worst emotional relationships I've been through, were the ones where the other person was so entranced by an ideal like this, that whenever I or the luck of existence failed to make some small piece of the magic expectation come through, the person either lashed out at me directly, or deserted me as though I were some sort of "false god" or sad trick that was played on them.

I enjoy the ideas for the way they can encourage people to examine and understand their own visualization of their lives, but past that I am wary of them. Ideals are tricky that way.

thank you Igor for your opinion and you are right I am after what really happens. it just that I have never figured out how or why I felt so safe so calm and so at peace when I met this person for the very first time


From my mostly-pure-logic point of view, I would suspect that the reasons why you nearly instantly felt so positive about someone, would have to do with a host of small elements of their appearance and behavior, which you subconsciously associate with things like home, and trust, and confidence. I know that I have occasionally been very strongly attracted to someone, or seen someone (even in the news) who I instantly thought of in a positive light, and upon careful consideration, realized that the reason I liked them so much, was because they reminded me of someone who I had ACTUALLY known well, who had all those positive traits.

It's not at all a bad thing, that you feel that good around someone, because often as not, the reasons why they DO remind you of good things, is because they really are a good person. But if you do want the real answer, then some basic pondering and other meditations should allow you to put your finger on what it is in particular that makes you feel as you do.

I would invest the time to do that were I in your place, not with an intent to upset the magic feeling of it all, but rather to both eliminate any fear I had that I was fooling myself, AND to make sure that I show full appreciation for the truly positive things about them that I discover are at the bottom of it all.

Sorry for rattling on so long, but I can't think of a shorter way to describe this.

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Mon 05/22/17 02:27 PM
This is the first I've ever heard of the term twin flames. There is still no real definition of it. That is the same with soul mates. People just seem to need to put a special label on their relationship. After going through this thread, and others, I'd say that I have never had a soul mate or a twin flame.

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Mon 05/22/17 02:35 PM

This is the first I've ever heard of the term twin flames. There is still no real definition of it. That is the same with soul mates. People just seem to need to put a special label on their relationship. After going through this thread, and others, I'd say that I have never had a soul mate or a twin flame.


Well, that's a great shame, and I hope you will have.

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Mon 05/22/17 06:46 PM
thank you all... your opinions are equally well thought of and serious...i appreciate you all for taking time to share your thoughts with me. I am torn between thinking deeply or just shrug off my experience as a memory... not analyze not complicate my life but then thoughts of soul mates and now twin flames just add colors to my somewhat grayish life lol.
Tom.. I would try the magic of losing my nose it's just too big for me to lose this lol.
cat.. I hope that you would soon have more of whatever you need.
Igor... feelings are feelings true just have to be real about it and not see it more than what it is:thumbsup:

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Mon 05/22/17 06:54 PM
crys

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Mon 05/22/17 06:55 PM
Crystal.. love your blog:heart_eyes:

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Mon 05/22/17 06:58 PM
Tom4u... you are right.. sorry for that headache lol. simply put love should feel easy...you love, you don't, you try, you lose... all facts nothing to analyze. it's just good to have my mind shook sometimes :nerd:

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Mon 05/22/17 07:59 PM
I'll bet more people know this than you think.

I agree with Tom. People just seem to love to get complicated.

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Tue 05/23/17 01:04 AM

Crystal.. love your blog:heart_eyes:

Thank you! Glad you liked it, hope it helped! flowerforyou

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Tue 05/23/17 01:38 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Tue 05/23/17 01:40 AM

This is the first I've ever heard of the term twin flames. There is still no real definition of it. That is the same with soul mates. People just seem to need to put a special label on their relationship. After going through this thread, and others, I'd say that I have never had a soul mate or a twin flame.

Soulmates have nothing to do with a love relationship, although ppl use the term to refer to their one and only other half.
But soulmates are ppl who are close to you, as they are part of your soulgroup and/or soulfamily. You got thousands of soulmates and you have (had) many in your life.
They can be family (parents, children), often your best friends are soulmates, partners can be too, but also a colleague or someone you meet in the streets or a shop that you seem to have this odd sense of familiarity with.
Soulmates usually feel familiar, even when you don't know them. You know how you can instantly like someone. Sometimes a sense that you've known them before and/or already know them (boils down to the same thing). These are soulmates.
Soulmates can stay in your life for a year, a months, a few minutes, your entire life. But you aren't necessarily romantically involved with them, wouldn't be possible because you have so many. But since soulmates typically really click with you, chances are that a partner or ex was a soulmate.
That doesn't make them the other half of you because, as I said, you got thousands of soulmates, not just the one.

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Tue 05/23/17 07:15 PM

I'll bet more people know this than you think.

I agree with Tom. People just seem to love to get complicated.

i agree i am so complicated...i love myself slapheadwaving

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Tue 05/23/17 07:18 PM


This is the first I've ever heard of the term twin flames. There is still no real definition of it. That is the same with soul mates. People just seem to need to put a special label on their relationship. After going through this thread, and others, I'd say that I have never had a soul mate or a twin flame.

Soulmates have nothing to do with a love relationship, although ppl use the term to refer to their one and only other half.
But soulmates are ppl who are close to you, as they are part of your soulgroup and/or soulfamily. You got thousands of soulmates and you have (had) many in your life.
They can be family (parents, children), often your best friends are soulmates, partners can be too, but also a colleague or someone you meet in the streets or a shop that you seem to have this odd sense of familiarity with.
Soulmates usually feel familiar, even when you don't know them. You know how you can instantly like someone. Sometimes a sense that you've known them before and/or already know them (boils down to the same thing). These are soulmates.
Soulmates can stay in your life for a year, a months, a few minutes, your entire life. But you aren't necessarily romantically involved with them, wouldn't be possible because you have so many. But since soulmates typically really click with you, chances are that a partner or ex was a soulmate.
That doesn't make them the other half of you because, as I said, you got thousands of soulmates, not just the one.

we can have several soulmates but only one twin flame :fire:... i guess if i am after that one person for me i should change focus or just not flowerforyou

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Wed 05/24/17 01:48 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Wed 05/24/17 01:51 AM
Change focus? No. Unless you mean work on personal growth. But you don't go looking for your Twin Flame. Like the signs said: You meet them out of the blue. You meet them when you are ready for such a high connection.
It is also not about a lovely romantic relationship. The reunion is about a higher purpose which is beyond individual.
Most ppl who have met their TF are going through difficult times because the TF mirrors the last bits and pieces of old wounds and fears, which can be very scary. So much so that some run from the connection. You really have to be ready for something like this, and very few are. It is only since the last -I don't know exactly- year, few years maybe that some ARE ready for this, and that TFs are meant to come together. Not for personal lovey dovy stuff, but to serve this higher purpose.

If you just want to be happy, be in a great relationship, you'd be better of in a Soulmate relationship. Being in a TF one is not really something to be envious of.
There are very few TFs that meet and are together in a romantic relationship.
Many think they are with their TF because it sounds so romantic and everyone thinks that being with your other half is the ultimate relationship. It is, but only if you're ready. And few are. But many ppl who aren't ready want to believe in the concept so much that they label the one that hurts them as their TF.
They are needy and clingy, co-dependent, and need the concept of TFs and being in a TF relationship to keep them afloat.
But that is NOT a TF relationship. it is never clingy, needy, co-dependent. A TF relationship can not be sustained when you still are like that. And you typically won't even meet your TF when you are still co-dependent.

So please don't latch on to the idea. If you are ready, you will meet them at some point. Like I said in my blog too: It's not a contest. You don't get a medal for being with your TF. You don't get instant happiness when you meet your TF (most just get their wounds and fears triggered).

DON'T search for your TF (you won't find them anyways, happens out of the blue) search for happiness! That's what life is about.
flowerforyou

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Wed 05/24/17 03:36 AM

Change focus? No. Unless you mean work on personal growth. But you don't go looking for your Twin Flame. Like the signs said: You meet them out of the blue. You meet them when you are ready for such a high connection.
It is also not about a lovely romantic relationship. The reunion is about a higher purpose which is beyond individual.
Most ppl who have met their TF are going through difficult times because the TF mirrors the last bits and pieces of old wounds and fears, which can be very scary. So much so that some run from the connection. You really have to be ready for something like this, and very few are. It is only since the last -I don't know exactly- year, few years maybe that some ARE ready for this, and that TFs are meant to come together. Not for personal lovey dovy stuff, but to serve this higher purpose.

If you just want to be happy, be in a great relationship, you'd be better of in a Soulmate relationship. Being in a TF one is not really something to be envious of.
There are very few TFs that meet and are together in a romantic relationship.
Many think they are with their TF because it sounds so romantic and everyone thinks that being with your other half is the ultimate relationship. It is, but only if you're ready. And few are. But many ppl who aren't ready want to believe in the concept so much that they label the one that hurts them as their TF.
They are needy and clingy, co-dependent, and need the concept of TFs and being in a TF relationship to keep them afloat.
But that is NOT a TF relationship. it is never clingy, needy, co-dependent. A TF relationship can not be sustained when you still are like that. And you typically won't even meet your TF when you are still co-dependent.

So please don't latch on to the idea. If you are ready, you will meet them at some point. Like I said in my blog too: It's not a contest. You don't get a medal for being with your TF. You don't get instant happiness when you meet your TF (most just get their wounds and fears triggered).

DON'T search for your TF (you won't find them anyways, happens out of the blue) search for happiness! That's what life is about.
flowerforyou


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