100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: Texas Senate OKs bill to abolish sanctuary cities | |
|---|---|
|
Edited by
msharmony
on
Wed 04/05/17 06:27 AM
|
|
I doubt anyone has open hearts for those who commit crimes against others.
It is in determining how to treat those who have not where the only disagreement lies. For instance, it is odd to me that illegal immigration is so often equated to prison and dangerous people. Most don't believe or want to believe that the immigrant and illegal immigrant population commit a lower rate of crimes than native born Americans. It is a fear tactic politicians use to paint the picture of illegal immigrants coming in and causing rampant crime. IT is odd to me that 'HUMAN rights' are so easily discarded with laws that basically encourage profiling people, assuming their citizenship should be checked, especially tying that need to incarceration, instead of the same type of passion into following the MONEY, the people who directly benefit,, THE EMPLOYERS. Remove the incentives, remove the crimes. Tomorrow if alcohol were once again illegal to consume, we would have a rise in other crimes and far more 'criminals' in jail. There is no criminal market if there is no crime THe golden boy Reagan used this approach; going after employers, providing amnesty to those who resided without breaking any other laws, and increasing border patrol(jobs, not walls). However, farmers protested and the Chamber of Commerce went to work defending employers and vetting laws were eventually laxed (for employers). AS someone who has gone through the immigration process and who loves their family, my heart does 'bleed' for those who simply want a chance to feed and provide for their families and cant afford to wait years to be able to have that chance. Not people who come here and harm others, those who come here to help their families. The narrative that its simply breaking the law or not or that illegal immigration is suddenly some massive 'threat' is a way to , imho, isolate,demonize, and de humanize a group of people in order to justify their treatment. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I doubt anyone has open hearts for those who commit crimes against others. It is in determining how to treat those who have not where the only disagreement lies. For instance, it is odd to me that illegal immigration is so often equated to prison and dangerous people. Most don't believe or want to believe that the immigrant and illegal immigrant population commit a lower rate of crimes than native born Americans. It is a fear tactic politicians use to paint the picture of illegal immigrants coming in and causing rampant crime. IT is odd to me that 'HUMAN rights' are so easily discarded with laws that basically encourage profiling people, assuming their citizenship should be checked, especially tying that need to incarceration, instead of the same type of passion into following the MONEY, the people who directly benefit,, THE EMPLOYERS. Remove the incentives, remove the crimes. Tomorrow if alcohol were once again illegal to consume, we would have a rise in other crimes and far more 'criminals' in jail. There is no criminal market if there is no crime THe golden boy Reagan used this approach; going after employers, providing amnesty to those who resided without breaking any other laws, and increasing border patrol(jobs, not walls). However, farmers protested and the Chamber of Commerce went to work defending employers and vetting laws were eventually laxed (for employers). AS someone who has gone through the immigration process and who loves their family, my heart does 'bleed' for those who simply want a chance to feed and provide for their families and cant afford to wait years to be able to have that chance. Not people who come here and harm others, those who come here to help their families. The narrative that its simply breaking the law or not or that illegal immigration is suddenly some massive 'threat' is a way to , imho, isolate,demonize, and de humanize a group of people in order to justify their treatment. maybe just try focusing on the word "illegal" ... every time a person enters this country illegally, regardless of the reason, they are slapping the faces of all the honest immigrants that did things the right way... if you spent 10-20 years and thousands of dollars looking earn your citizenship the right way, and then all of a sudden the libtards just start handing out citizenships like candy bars, wouldn't you be a upset about it? when our parents/grandparents came here and did everything the right way, they EARNED their citizenship the way the law says it's to be done... now it seems nothing is earned, just given out with no effort to get it, the same way every kid gets the stupid participation trophy... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues.
So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... yes, but illegally entering the country is not the equivalent to an issue of citizenship,, it is only an issue of permission to be here, which can also be a passport or some type of visa,,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... yes, but illegally entering the country is not the equivalent to an issue of citizenship,, it is only an issue of permission to be here, which can also be a passport or some type of visa,,,, thats disgusting... you seem to think breaking the law needs a reward...congratulations, rob a bank and not only keep the money, but here's another 200 dollars for daring to break the law... libs will never make any sense to me... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... yes, but illegally entering the country is not the equivalent to an issue of citizenship,, it is only an issue of permission to be here, which can also be a passport or some type of visa,,,, Yes, lets give them a passport to come and stay here for their entire life, sponge off our infrastructure, add to our prison population and break our laws. What a absolutely ridicules concept. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... yes, but illegally entering the country is not the equivalent to an issue of citizenship,, it is only an issue of permission to be here, which can also be a passport or some type of visa,,,, thats disgusting... you seem to think breaking the law needs a reward...congratulations, rob a bank and not only keep the money, but here's another 200 dollars for daring to break the law... libs will never make any sense to me... another false analogy robbing a bank means taking something TANGIBLE that someone else 'earned' this country wasn't earned any more by anyone currently living here than it was 'deserved' by the ancestors who robbed, pillaged, and killed to get it people who see humans as pawns to prove who 'earns' what , will never make sense to me |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
having citizenship and having legal status to reside are different issues. So no, merely coming into the country is not a slap in the face to those who choose to become citizens. It is, at the worst, a 'slap' to those who went through a few years of inconvenience in order to get permission to reside here,,, visas are not in any way 'earned', they are paid for and , as someone who HAS gone through the tedious immigration process, it only makes me understand how those with nothing and in dire situations forego it to try to take care of their families we were never talking about greencards, it was always about citizenship and illegally entering this country... if they have a greencard or visa, then obviously they did things the right way... yes, but illegally entering the country is not the equivalent to an issue of citizenship,, it is only an issue of permission to be here, which can also be a passport or some type of visa,,,, thats disgusting... you seem to think breaking the law needs a reward...congratulations, rob a bank and not only keep the money, but here's another 200 dollars for daring to break the law... libs will never make any sense to me... another false analogy robbing a bank means taking something TANGIBLE that someone else 'earned' this country wasn't earned any more by anyone currently living here than it was 'deserved' by the ancestors who robbed, pillaged, and killed to get it people who see humans as pawns to prove who 'earns' what , will never make sense to me 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
there is a lot of ground between REWARD and PUNISHMENT
laws are not always implemented or written in the most logical way some are logical for the time they are written and need to be modified as times and people change the 'crime' of being here without a paper is far from the worst of crimes those 'crimes' harm no one and those who commit them should not be treated the same as those who have broken crimes that do the immigration system needs to be overhauled, more personnel need to be at the borders, those who continue to seek out, exploit, and profit from the labor of undocumented individuals need to pay remove the incentives, find the true profiteers, and find ways to better assist immigrants in need,,,, both through foreign policy and immigration policy scapegoating the desperate is the route of the BOUGOISE , who thrill at getting away with more and more through legal loopholes and the admiration of their fan base to believe they are all knowing and concerned with the well being of the common person |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Would be nice to see 49 other states to follow. I am all for "LEGAL" immigration. Totally against illegal If you go thru the legal process, go thru the vetting... then welcome :)...that is what America is all about. You want to sneak across our boarder, totally give the finger to our laws, then you have absolutely no right to b*t*h when you get caught and deported.... none.. zero. People forget (or don't care) about one thing. We have no idea who these people are.. what they were like back in their country. what ( if any ) crimes they committed back there. That is what the vetting and legal process is all about. So now we have over 200,000 illegal aliens sitting in our prisons and jails. God only knows how many more out loose on the streets. Mostly hard core gang bangers. Do you really think they were alter boys back home?, that they were not doing the same thing there? And these are the people who the bleeding hearts open their arms too Unbelievable! Yep and Texas has been cracking down on them |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It means following and enforcing the laws that we have. 
so, this is the law in Texas? " law enforcement in cities, counties and on college campuses would have to hold an arrested person in custody while US Customs and Immigration Enforcement looks into his or her immigration status " that seems like a lot of manpower hours,,,, lets see if it has any impact upon anything,,,, looking at it practically, unless TEXAS also has a law requiring everyone carry id everywhere and at all times,,,,,, I could be arrested for public intoxication walking in a park without ID, I would have to give them my name and sit through some questions that help them Identify me specifically and then also verify somehow that I had not just given the name of someone else I knew. That seems like it would require man hours and technology and enough to handle EVERY arrest made,,,, but whatever makes Texans feel better,,,,their state and their call Typically when the cop runs the person they can find out. It's when they lie about their identity is when it takes a long time and it's their bad for lying about who they are. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Except the republicans claim our religious beliefs allow us not to follow the law. See clerks refusing to sign marriage certificate. Then add hobby lobby corporation can use religious freedom. Cities are corporation therefore they too can use Texas religious freedom law and the republican platform of Our religious beliefs.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Except the republicans claim our religious beliefs allow us not to follow the law. See clerks refusing to sign marriage certificate. Then add hobby lobby corporation can use religious freedom. Cities are corporation therefore they too can use Texas religious freedom law and the republican platform of Our religious beliefs. That's a great idea. Now they have to figure out how to do it with no money. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
good job texas
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are several ways to be here legally. Illegal is illegal. Sancutary cities are aiding and abetting
|
|
|
|
|
