What do you think about this?"All is fair in love and war."
Well i think that it is true.

Not everything in life is fair, so I disagree with your statement.

i think probably nobody cares too much about this stupid topic

Based on my relationship with my ex..I believe in it because he is about to be hauled back in court for child support arears after he has lived resonsibility free for the past 4-5 yrs.
Now this means warrrr...wahoooooooooo!

A catch-all for the "bottom-liners."

Works fine for those lacking the ethics or the intellect to devise alternative solutions....


And I find it offensive and presumptuous when someone attempts to speak for others about what "probably nobody cares about." Have you done a survey? It's a perfectly valid topic.

You are cool

I don't know about cool Denise ... cause I never wanted it like this...but he never could do the right thing..so now I am playing hardball...No Mercy

Could the inverse be equally as true???

That all is fair in fear and peace?

Assuming my understanding that fear is the opposite of love...

Lex~~ I have givin up all ethics & intellect with my situation.....but .... where are the ethics in telling a child that his daddy rather do crack & live off a b*tch rather then give him a birthday presant? Time to get down & dirty

well when you have to do thing you have to do them right

denise u need to stop e-mailing me i really have no patience to deal with bull crap you could have simply said i dont care what you think right here in the forum you didnt have to e-mail me so i would appreciate it if you'd leave me alone

Child support? What's that? I've raised my children on my own. I'm putting the youngest through college now. I will do it on my own. And as far as the father, he can't understand why she doesn't ever call him. She is bitter because he left the state when she was only 5. I never talk bad about him, she has decided on her own what kind of person he is. She sees him only if she can find the time. She doesn't try to hard. I guess what goes around comes around. It's his lose because she's one heck of a young lady.

Dawnette -- Always allowing for specific circumstances as exceptions to a general rule, I understand that -- my comment was directed at the cliched nature of the premise, not at any one application....for those who would use it as a justification for simply not bothering to formulate an alternative.

Yes, there are going to be situations where you have to get down & dirty, but I would submit that even THIS doesn't constitute ALL is fair -- would you shoot him? Would you run him over with your car? I mean, if we're talking about child support, it's his obligation, and he should have been paying it all along. I see nothing radical or unjustifiable about taking steps to get what's coming to you.

awwww digger thats awesome you should be proud her dad sounds like my dad

well you don't need getting mad at cause you can't a man lol
you act like the world own you something and you get mad at whatever i am not going to tak any crap from you okay so get over it whit you "I AM MAD AT THE WORLD LEAVE ME ALONE MOOD!!"

I am damn proud of my daughter. She is wise beyond her years. She will be leaving for a semester in England in a couple of months, I will miss her so much, but it is a once in a life time chance.

I too enjoy the abundance of lack with rregards to child support.

And the pitance received for the care and nurture of our son over the past 13 years has consumed itself in the provision for the bi-weekly trips I make for my son's occassional weekend visits with his mom some 112 miles away.

And yet, I am supposed to be endearing in this regard. However, my son's relationship with his mom is more important to my son than the costs involved in accomodating his will.

I know that were a remissive crackhead to have been raising him would have been unacceptable to him as well!!!

OUCH!!! Maybe I should leave that under the blood!!

yeah shadow ~ my daughter has totally written him off..but unfortunately my sons still wait & hope he will be around for something, anything ...he leaves them thinking he'll be there for them and dosen't even call.

Lex ~
Shoot him? run him over? hmmmmmmm

naww .....I guess not.... I was thinking an eye for an eye though..not actually physical harm.

Dawnwtte -- what you're saying, though, indicates that decisions are being made, or have been made, regarding the lengths you're willing to go to in order to ensure that he fulfills his rightful obligation.

I maintain that there's a big difference between "all's fair" --hinting at "ANY means to an end" -- and using the existing system as an advocate in a wholly justifiable attempt to obtain what should have been yours all along.