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Edited by
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Buy you a beer brother
If your government can make it a serious offence to label Asian products with the US flag then it should work. Up here, if they package a finished product from China, they consider that 50% of the product made here, the packaging of it, so they're able to label it "Made In Canada" It's a joke, no one knows what's really made here at 100% Clean all that up and things should work out. |
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I just find these debates ( and constant T.V. commercials) to be a waste Not of substance is said. Frankly I don't care about what Bill Clinton did, I don't care that Trump talks thru his a** at times Tell me about the plans you have for our future. Both say they have them.. defeat I.S.S. , create U.S.jobs, control immigration... they say they have the plans... but they don't share the plans with the people who will be affected by these plans. If I was to tell my boss, that I have a plan... then didn't tell him what is was.. my next plan would have to be on how to navigate thru the unemployment process I heard some kind of plan from Trump on that stage, jobs will come from those who are able to repatriate some 5 Trillion back to the US economy... Something the present admin can't seem to get done? Goods from Mexico & China subject to import tax to level the playing fields. Revisited Trade deals etc. 20 Trillion owed, she had her chances to change things within... 30 years as a career politician that accomplished very little. Clinton refers to her website, she says, if you want details on MY plan, go rifle through my site, I, personally won't go there, I want to hear it come out of their mouths not some place she can quickly edit at will and change her plan whenever she wants. It was highly illegal what she did with those 33k emails, Trump is right, instructing all her staff to plead the fifth is corrupting the justice system. So many things wrong with voting for her, that's all I'm going to say as an outsider. Well, I am voting for Trump basically because I can't stand Hillary, that being say. Import tax on product from China and Mexico are long long overdue. NFTA was a friggin joke.. still is. I am building a factory in the U.S., to bring jobs back and I will tell you, if the U.S. raises the import tax you will see 1000's of companies do the same Why Because China labor & raw material costs have gone up each year. Steamship companies charge ($4,500.00) on average to bring in a container, then you add the port charges and surcharges. Meaning the landed cost of many products currently made in China are now not that much cheaper then if made in the U.S. 90% of the outbound containers leaving the U.S. ports for China are EMTPY. They are being sent back for rotation! But the Government has to DO SOMETHING about it. Make it feasible for companies to move back. Dump the entire NFTA concept Tax product imported from " mill" countries Don't buckle to the steamship companies Don't buckle to the longshoremen Give companies tax incentives to move back Give companies utility incentives to move back JMO I agree with you on MANY topics, not just this one. let's take the metal working industry as an example, the old industrial shears, lathes and metalworking equipment is now considered way too dangerous for the unionised shops in the US, In China for example, a worker can lose a limb and he'll be replaced the same day on the same machine. no biggie In the plastic injection industry, all those machines were shipped out a decade+ ago. There are practically none left here, the retooling and gearing up for production could take a decade to renew and most companies are not in a position to re-invest here. Anyways, you get the point, things will not be easy to make America great again and I see a new avenue with robotics in manufacturing for the US, it's the only way
John... you are absolutely right.. dead on When we decided ( 3 years ago) to move back, after doing the analysis for over a year and the financials it was determined that the only way to do it was by utilizing state of the art robotics ( fully automated robotics assembly lines) in the plant.. which we are doing. We are also building a injection mold division in the plant, 20 machines, state of the art.. and totally robotic. We will make the components we need to build the finished product.. in house.. using American raw materials. Even with the robotics and full automation, we will still employ over 200 full time.. good paying jobs... which is what it is all about. And frankly.I will also tell you that every single trade contractor on this job knows what is at stake and they are all.. about 150 of them.. working their a** off.. to get it done better then anyone else can.... pride.... So it can be done... it takes determination, money and sweat. I just hope other companies follow suit.. and help to turn the tide... I really do. And I am banking that when people see that American flag on the product... they buy it. Millions of us pick it up or have interest in it but once the sticker shock sets in.... back on the shelf it goes. Plus you have to think about products all people know by name even without having seen or owned it. Ex. Nike anything. Indonesia, China, Taiwan..... I mean if we want something made in some exotic place what's wrong with the U.S. Virgin Isles PHIL KNIGHT? Msharmony, they are both criminals. Trump is a discriminating extortionist and tax evader. Clinton has broken more laws just having to do with classified information perjury and destruction of evidence than General David Petraeus and Bradley/Chelsea Manning combined. Everybody---- we don't have to vote for either of these two. You can still vote for two official candidates in the race or write in any non criminal you so choose. At least then you know you did your part not turning our country into a WWE or WW3 contributor. |
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I just find these debates ( and constant T.V. commercials) to be a waste Not of substance is said. Frankly I don't care about what Bill Clinton did, I don't care that Trump talks thru his a** at times Tell me about the plans you have for our future. Both say they have them.. defeat I.S.S. , create U.S.jobs, control immigration... they say they have the plans... but they don't share the plans with the people who will be affected by these plans. If I was to tell my boss, that I have a plan... then didn't tell him what is was.. my next plan would have to be on how to navigate thru the unemployment process I heard some kind of plan from Trump on that stage, jobs will come from those who are able to repatriate some 5 Trillion back to the US economy... Something the present admin can't seem to get done? Goods from Mexico & China subject to import tax to level the playing fields. Revisited Trade deals etc. 20 Trillion owed, she had her chances to change things within... 30 years as a career politician that accomplished very little. Clinton refers to her website, she says, if you want details on MY plan, go rifle through my site, I, personally won't go there, I want to hear it come out of their mouths not some place she can quickly edit at will and change her plan whenever she wants. It was highly illegal what she did with those 33k emails, Trump is right, instructing all her staff to plead the fifth is corrupting the justice system. So many things wrong with voting for her, that's all I'm going to say as an outsider. Well, I am voting for Trump basically because I can't stand Hillary, that being say. Import tax on product from China and Mexico are long long overdue. NFTA was a friggin joke.. still is. I am building a factory in the U.S., to bring jobs back and I will tell you, if the U.S. raises the import tax you will see 1000's of companies do the same Why Because China labor & raw material costs have gone up each year. Steamship companies charge ($4,500.00) on average to bring in a container, then you add the port charges and surcharges. Meaning the landed cost of many products currently made in China are now not that much cheaper then if made in the U.S. 90% of the outbound containers leaving the U.S. ports for China are EMTPY. They are being sent back for rotation! But the Government has to DO SOMETHING about it. Make it feasible for companies to move back. Dump the entire NFTA concept Tax product imported from " mill" countries Don't buckle to the steamship companies Don't buckle to the longshoremen Give companies tax incentives to move back Give companies utility incentives to move back JMO I agree with you on MANY topics, not just this one. let's take the metal working industry as an example, the old industrial shears, lathes and metalworking equipment is now considered way too dangerous for the unionised shops in the US, In China for example, a worker can lose a limb and he'll be replaced the same day on the same machine. no biggie In the plastic injection industry, all those machines were shipped out a decade+ ago. There are practically none left here, the retooling and gearing up for production could take a decade to renew and most companies are not in a position to re-invest here. Anyways, you get the point, things will not be easy to make America great again and I see a new avenue with robotics in manufacturing for the US, it's the only way
John... you are absolutely right.. dead on When we decided ( 3 years ago) to move back, after doing the analysis for over a year and the financials it was determined that the only way to do it was by utilizing state of the art robotics ( fully automated robotics assembly lines) in the plant.. which we are doing. We are also building a injection mold division in the plant, 20 machines, state of the art.. and totally robotic. We will make the components we need to build the finished product.. in house.. using American raw materials. Even with the robotics and full automation, we will still employ over 200 full time.. good paying jobs... which is what it is all about. And frankly.I will also tell you that every single trade contractor on this job knows what is at stake and they are all.. about 150 of them.. working their a** off.. to get it done better then anyone else can.... pride.... So it can be done... it takes determination, money and sweat. I just hope other companies follow suit.. and help to turn the tide... I really do. And I am banking that when people see that American flag on the product... they buy it. Millions of us pick it up or have interest in it but once the sticker shock sets in.... back on the shelf it goes. Plus you have to think about products all people know by name even without having seen or owned it. Ex. Nike anything. Indonesia, China, Taiwan..... I mean if we want something made in some exotic place what's wrong with the U.S. Virgin Isles PHIL KNIGHT? Msharmony, they are both criminals. Trump is a discriminating extortionist and tax evader. Clinton has broken more laws just having to do with classified information perjury and destruction of evidence than General David Petraeus and Bradley/Chelsea Manning combined. Everybody---- we don't have to vote for either of these two. You can still vote for two official candidates in the race or write in any non criminal you so choose. At least then you know you did your part not turning our country into a WWE or WW3 contributor. although I am raised to walk in other peoples shoes and try to understand their perspective I disagree that the alleged crimes of Clinton have anything to do with her capacity as President, I believe she has more knowledge(living with a president and in the white house for 8 years, being a senator and a secretary of state), skill, experience and genuine interest(working on and with disadvantaged citizens most of her career and getting CHIP passed) in americans than most who have run before her ,, and Im with her,,, |
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Why I didn't watch the debate,part one and part two..
Part one....I don't own a television Part two....I am not going to support this election system in any way. I am rather disappointed in the fact that the public accepts either one of these candidates as being qualified to represent our country. Any American citizen who is worth their salt should look into alternatives for this election. America seems to be populated by a bunch of apathetic mush brains,who just stand back and accept this system as being valid. I think if Washington,Jefferson,Adams,Paine,and many of the others could see what we have allowed ourselves to become,they would be more than disappointed.. |
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Edited by
germanchoclate1981
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Why I didn't watch the debate,part one and part two.. Part one....I don't own a television Part two....I am not going to support this election system in any way. You don't need a t.v. you can watch it online. As stated before, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR A DNR CANDIDATE. You can chose between Libertarian or Green, or WRITE IN ANY (preferably non criminal) person who meets the standard set forth in the Constitution. I am rather disappointed in the fact that the public accepts either one of these candidates as being qualified to represent our country. Any American citizen who is worth their salt should look into alternatives for this election. America seems to be populated by a bunch of apathetic mush brains,who just stand back and accept this system as being valid. I think if Washington,Jefferson,Adams,Paine,and many of the others could see what we have allowed ourselves to become,they would be more than disappointed.. I agree that most people are blindly supporting the person SELECTED to represent their party for president. I don't like either of the DNR candidates, and won't be voting for them either. Here's the problem, while you're upset about the non choice for President not participating in the process gives them just as much power personally and thousands of times more power in all down ticket races including judges, school boards, Atty's Gen etc. More people vote in the General election than in primary or midterm elections WHICH ARE THE ONLY TIME SINGLE VOTES COUNT IF THEY ARE PROPERLY COUNTED. All indications in the REAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, which would be the PRIMARIES, the votes WERE NOT PROPERLY COUNTED. There are more complaints of ELECTION FRAUD than in the last two presidential races combined. There are many lawsuits in NY CA KY and many other states. If you don't vote, you condone those CRIMES. If you do vote for somebody else THEN you can consider yourself worth your salt as a citizen. If not, you're MORE RESPONSIBLE for corruption up and down ticket than those who vote for DNR Selects for President because YOU didn't stop the criminals that support and contribute to their crimes as well as commit crimes of their own. The ONLY WAY we are going to regain some semblance of control of our country is by sending a sharp clear unmistakable message to the DNR party is by electing small or independent parties across the board. The DNC and the RNC are not listening to citizens. Trump isn't a populist candidate or an outsider HE'S a DEMOCRAT. Hillary isn't the first female democrat to be nominated by the DNC for President, SHES A REPUBLICAN who's more bloodthirsty than REPUBLICAN Bill was. Why don't they run in the parties they align with? So we get a PREDETERMINED OUTCOME AND BELIEVE THAT WE ACTUALLY CHOSE IT WHEN THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL WE WOULD REASONABLY ARRIVE THERE ON OUR OWN. Why the hell isn't it Ryan vs Biden? That's what millions of people were thinking then asking ONCE IT WAS ALREADY TOO LATE.  sorry! You get Trump's hair or Hillary's cackle.
Impeach them, they dare you, then we get vampire Tim Kaine or vampire Mike Pence. Most people don't even know who they are and people in the DNR parties didn't want them as VP. They are security blankets to anyone thinking about impeachment because you'd have to 'outwardly clean looking' people to oust which wouldn't happen in 4 years time. Then if the house speaker toes their line even a second impeachment would be meaningless. Think our establishment house senate governors and mayors would let that happen? Who's funding THEIR campaigns? We need to start looking now for people top to bottom that have nothing to do with think tanks, councils, committees, boards, banks or real estate. They run the gamit from policy to legislation crimes and cover-ups. It is disgusting that these two people are staining our ballots. We can do better. There are 200,000,000 people that didn't vote for either of them in the primary. This is what the DNR parties have given us. Even if half of those people are children or ineligible to vote there is more than enough possibility to put forth better candidates. |
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awwwwww, baby so cute I currently am helping with files at a pre k and they are so innocent and adorable. ... LOVE EM |
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In case anyone is wondering...final two debates....
Sunday, October 9, 2016 Second presidential debate Moderator: Martha Raddatz, Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and Co-Anchor of "This Week," ABC Moderator: Anderson Cooper, Anchor, CNN Location: Washington University in St. Louis , St. Louis, MO Wednesday, October 19, 2016 Third presidential debate Moderator: Chris Wallace, Anchor, Fox News Sunday Location: University of Nevada, Las Vegas , Las Vegas, NV Plenty of time for them to be forgotten about by November 8th 
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awwwwww, baby so cute I currently am helping with files at a pre k and they are so innocent and adorable. ... LOVE EM Stop It! Focus! Focus! Geez. |
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awwwwww, baby so cute I currently am helping with files at a pre k and they are so innocent and adorable. ... LOVE EM 
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BOMBSHELL #1: Campaign Manager Kelly Anne Conway 'Trump spent money in Cuba in 1998' on ABC's the View. Confession of guilt breaking Cuban embargo.
Newsweek Magazine BOMBSHELL #2: Trump Charitable Foundation not licenced to solicit money from the public in the State of NY. Foundations need a certificate to collect donations in excess of $25k. Washington Post |
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Edited by
RebelArcher
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Thu 09/29/16 09:18 PM
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The snipers were silenced, they have yet to be reached for comment.
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Edited by
RebelArcher
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Thu 09/29/16 09:22 PM
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The snipers were silenced, they have yet to be reached for comment. |
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And the cucks will cuck for Hillary too...just watch
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And here's the cuckers pick with her sniper fire lie...cucks gonna cuck....
http://youtu.be/-vpGh7qnxA8 ...cuck away cucks |
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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are at the bar at a fundraiser in the Hamptons. Donald leans over, non-alcoholic cocktail in hand, and says, “Boy, Hillary. The media are sure tearing you a new one over that scandal.”
“You mean my lying about Benghazi?” Hillary said. “No, the other one,” Trump responded. “You mean the massive voter fraud?” “No, the other one.” “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?” “No, the other one.” “Using my secret private server with classified material to hide my activities?” “No, the other one.” “Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, and taking bribes from foreign countries? “No, the other one.” “You mean the drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law?” “No, the other one.” “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?” “No, the other one.” “You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?” “No, the other one.” “The funding of neo-nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII?” “No, the other one.” “Turning Libya into chaos?” “No, the other one.” “Being the mastermind of the so-called ‘Arab Spring’ that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa?” “No, the other one.” “Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and slept through the briefing?” “No, the other one.” “Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?” “No, the other one.” “The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give Sarin gas to the ‘moderate’ terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, making it so that had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?” “No, the other one.” “The creation of the biggest refugee crisis since World War II?” “No, the other one.” “Leaving Iraq in chaos?” “No, the other one.” “You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance executives?” “No, the other one.” “Giving our cronies in Solyndra $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?” (China bid on it but can't confirm the purchase. Regardless, corrupt as hell) “No, the other one.” “The NSA monitoring citizens?” “No, the other one.” “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?” “No, the other one.” “ Me,, The IRS, Clapperand Holderall lying to Congress?” “No, the other one.” “Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet? “No, the other one.” I give up! … oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left office?” “THAT’S IT! I almost forgot about that one,” Trump said Now melt, you cucks
Going to bed, have a nice day 
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Edited by
germanchoclate1981
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 Who is leading the sheep? What do you do on the products they represent? What do you do with sheep on that product (get your minds out of the gutter I'm being serious)? What number is missing and what numbers do you see? Do you think this was an accident coming from the man that helped finance run and televise soap operas for men (WWE) raw is war. Do you think in his years of experience in SCRIPTED PROGRAMS and all of his extensive connections that this was an accident? You're being fleeced. He's not an outsider, he is a politician, and he's not conservative or republican. He is a white (with a bit of Orange) collar criminal. |
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