Topic: How dangerous is the Iraq war for military personnel?
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Sat 11/10/07 04:29 PM

By FRANK GREVE

WASHINGTON -- Here's how the risk of death among U.S. troops in Iraq varies by rank, service and other factors, according to a new University of Pennsylvania analysis:

* The death rate for deployed Marines in Iraq is 8.59 per thousand per year, more than twice that of the Army, nine times that of the Navy and 20 times that of the Air Force. Navy and Air Force personnel serving in Iraq have lower death rates than comparable civilians at home.

* Enlisted personnel in the Army and Marines are significantly more likely to be killed than officers. Army privates first class and Marine lance corporals have the highest risks in their services; lieutenants have the highest risks among Marine and Army officers.

* Active-duty Army death rates are three times those of Army Reserves; the National Guard is in the middle. Marine active duty and reserve risks are equally high.

* Older troops, women and African-Americans are killed at lower rates; Hispanics, Native Americans and Asian and Pacific Islanders at higher rates.

* The Iraq troop-death rate overall is less than half the death rate for the U.S. civilian population when all ages are included.

The study, co-authored by demographers Samuel Preston and Emily Buzzell and titled "Mortality of American Troops in the Iraq War," appears in the September issue of the peer-reviewed journal Population and Development Review.

Overall death risks are based on an analysis of 2,706 deaths among U.S. troops in Iraq from March 20, 2003, when the first occurred, to Sept. 30, 2006.

Risks relative to service, rank, race and other factors are based on deployments and outcomes through Nov. 30, 2006.


dchatwin's photo
Sat 11/10/07 04:30 PM
Soo Ron Paul? Right on.

Radon2000's photo
Sat 11/10/07 04:39 PM
eh, this world is going to crap anyways and next thing you know the world will end

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Sat 11/10/07 04:50 PM
Those are some pretty good statistics.... but you are right... I was there I know, and agree

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Sat 11/10/07 05:02 PM
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Good to see ya bud:smile:

Great Stats my friend
"The Iraq troop-death rate overall is less than half the death rate for the U.S. civilian population when all ages are included. "

I guess our brave men and woman who are fighting for people to have freedom and a choice on how they want to live are actually twice as safe as we our in our own cities and streets.
Maybe thats why there are so many volunteerslaugh drinker drinker

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Sat 11/10/07 05:40 PM
??? How dangerous is any war to military personnell??? Of course the Marines die in larger piles, They are the first in. Its thier Job. They wouldent have it ant other way. yup.

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Sat 11/10/07 05:51 PM
i do think i iluded to that a couple years ago


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Sat 11/10/07 08:50 PM
The Marines are a light Infantry force. Thats why more of them die! They are a fine light Infantry, but the Army's third Infantry was the first to Bagdad, by a long shot!! If you remember they had to wait 2 days for the Marines to catch up! (political reasons)

The army has always bore the brunt of casualties, but they have a lot of support units that see very little if any fighting. The grunts do it, everyone else follows!

WWII- the longest continual engagement for the Marines was a little over a month. Total casualties for the war were less than 30,000.

The Army, esp the 3rd ID was engaged in N Africa, Sicily, Italy, and Europe. They made more beach landings than any other Unit during WWII and were engaged in battle for more than 4 yrs! Constantly!!!

Like I said the Marines are good (American) but they arent the 3rd ID!! The finest fighting force in the World!!


I am the Infantry.
I am my country's strength in war.
her deterrent in peace.
I am the heart of the fight...
wherever, whenever.
I carry America's faith and honor
against her enemies.
I am the Queen of Battle.
I am what my country expects me to be...
the best trained solider in the world.
In the race for victory
I am swift, determined, and courageous,
armed with a fierce will to win.
Never will I betray my country's trust.
always I fight on...
through the foe,
to the objective,
to triumph over all,
If necessary, I will fight to my death.
By my steadfast courage,
I have won 200 years of freedom.
I yield not to weakness,
to hunger,
to cowardice,
to fatigue,
to superior odds,
for I am mentally tough, physically strong,
and morally straight.
I forsake not...
my country,
my mission
my comrades,
my sacred duty.
I am relentless.
I am always there,
now and forever.
I Am The Infantry!
Follow Me.

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Sun 11/11/07 02:57 PM
USMC- Killing machines praying for war.

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Sun 11/11/07 02:57 PM
anyone seen sgt Payne? damn thats funny.