Topic: Illegal Immigrant Supporters, Trying to Screw US Again!
scttrbrain's photo
Wed 11/07/07 07:29 PM
And deemed as stalkers when arrested and taken to court. Breaking the law is after all...breaking the law. I believe that taking pictures and stalking without permission is an offense in its'self. I know I would demand someone to stop taking pics of me. And if I saw them following me, I am calling a cop or worse.
Kat

Spur277's photo
Wed 11/07/07 07:36 PM
The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Tennesseeans
Analysis based on an estimated 100,000 illegal alien population residing in Tennessee indicates that they cost the state’s taxpayers more than $285 million per year for education, medical care and incarceration.

I would invite you to investigate for yourselves.
http://www.fairus.org

Mikey86's photo
Wed 11/07/07 07:47 PM
Not really a police activist, just a realist here.

People wonder WHY the roads are so clogged and we have to keep raising more money to build new one, and spend more maintaining the ones we already have (they weren't designed for the amount of traffic they now have).

People wonder why the cost of food has gone up, couldn't be more demand for it, hence, the need for MORE people to do the cheap ag work, which in turns means they need more food, repeating cycle.

People wonder why the main aquifer under the central US is becoming depleted so fast. For those that don't know, it's them main source of water to grow all the crops that are grown with machines in the central US (corn, wheat, etc). We have to grow MORE food to support the ever growing population, putting more and more drain on that aquifer.

People wonder why we are having issues with our infrastructure in the US for basic things like water, pretty simple to see that the population is growing far faster than the infrastructure can support. We've had a VERY good year for rainfall in most of the US this year, yet we still have to have water conservation measures in place.

People wonder why the crime rate in the US has gone up so much overall (yes, some of the percentages have gone down in certain areas, but the overall numbers keep climbing. Not a thought to the fact that we have a much larger influx of non-law-abiding people in the country.

People wonder why there are marches in the streets of people holding flags from other countries (throughout history that's been called an invasion). Instead of being proud to be Americans, they are proud to be Mexicans in the US, carrying on the invasion.

People wonder why we are having such a shortage of police officers in so many areas, lax of proper tax base and law abiding citizens who want the job, given the fact that they are told to let so many law breakers go free instead of upholding those laws, its a wonder we have anyone wanting to be police officers these days.

People wonder why millions of people can break the law and get away with it, when if they get pulled over for a traffic violation they get a nice ticket and fine (illegal’s don't BTW).

People wonder why they now have to carry uninsured motorist insurance on their car if they want any to actually be covered, when it's a requirement for every law-abiding LICENSED driver to have insurance. hmmmmm.

People wonder why our economy has such a large deficit. economics 101. You have a VERY large number of people making money using the infrastructure our forefathers built, and then sending that money back home. These very same people are the number one shoppers at places like walmart, where the vast majority of things are also coming from money spent in other countries like china.

People wonder why they will not be able to settle down in a decent retirement community anymore without being wealthy, mainly because those places all tend to be on the lower scale for cost of living (kind of a requirement for those retirees on fixed incomes), and those areas have now been taken over by people from other countries, waving flags from those countries, and sending money that should be spent here to those other countries.

All the people that claim that we need illegal immigrants are ignorant of the facts on what it's truly doing to our country. One of the MAIN things they are doing is bringing the living conditions of those other countries here, things like an overburdened infrastructure that can't handle it's population (sorry folks, the growth rate in the US without the illegal immigration was such that we could grow our infrastructure along with it, instead we are just barely keeping it together to handle the load we're letting get placed on it.

Those who support illegal immigration haven't had the neighborhood they grew up become overrun.
Those who support illegal immigration haven't had to go to a community hospital paid for by their taxes, and had to wait for hours and hours behind the illegal aliens who haven't paid anything to support that hospital.
Those who support illegal immigration haven't had teenagers in the house who can barely find a job at all because all the non-skilled jobs are taken.
Those who support illegal immigration haven't had to be told they now have to learn Spanish to keep the job they already have in the USA.

Those who support illegal immigration are blind to the REAL picture of what it's doing to our country, a country where all the things they are coming here for are quickly fading away (jobs, free speech, and what was once the most advanced civil infrastructure in the world).

Those who support illegal immigration haven't had family history of people building that infrastructure up into what it is today, at least not descendants they are proud of, not proud enough to protect what they built.

The typical person who supports Illegal immigration is typically someone who comes from a wealthy, or at least well off family, not from the families who've done all the "grunt work" to build this country.

Support someone who breaks laws, who trespasses, and who has no consequences for those actions? Support people who have mad a mess of the country they come from and are trying to bring that mess here? Support people who have let the country they come from be taken over by drug lords and corrupt politicians and are bringing that situation here? They have already corrupted our police system to the point that we may not recover. At the rate it's going, our country will be in just as bad a shape as theirs in a decade.

When my kids are having problems, I don't tell them to run away to somewhere that the problem doesn't exist; I teach them to start fixing the problem. Mexico needs to start fixing its problems, and we need to stop importing those problems here.

Now that I've said all that, let me say that I don't mind legal immigration at all; it's one of the things that has made this country great. But if you live in a dreamland and think that we can just take as many as can get here without suffering for it, you are sadly mistaken.


Mikey86's photo
Wed 11/07/07 07:59 PM
Sorry, my spell checker automatically changed political to police it seems, crappy software :)

Spur277's photo
Wed 11/07/07 08:07 PM
Right on, Mickey. And thank you.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Wed 11/07/07 08:21 PM
(((andrea)))

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 11/07/07 08:26 PM
I really hate to disagree with you but, I have been in some of these same situations and it wasn't as you say.
As for drug lords, wouldn't be any if we the people did not ask for them. As a matter of fact; the law is the very same ones bringing it in. DEA included. Lawless law, lawless politicians, lawless people. Many who claim to hate drugs themselves at least smoke pot. It is a drug and it kills thousands. Not what you think. I mean it kills thousands planting, harvesting, and delivering. It is a highly profitable job with terrible consequenses for so many that have no choice but to be a part in it. Forced if you will. Many die to get that drug to us here.
Kat

Fanta46's photo
Wed 11/07/07 09:32 PM
Guest worker programs are meant to assure employers (e.g., fruit, vegetable, and horticultural specialty growers) of an adequate supply of labor when and where it is needed while not adding permanent residents to the U.S. population.

This program is known as the H-2A Guest worker program! (look it up) It ensures that farmers and other industries like poultry cleaning and seafood processing plants have enough workers every year!

There is a waiting list and these workers are here legally!
Stopping illegal immigration does not effect this program and therefore does not effect the food supply!

Here are a few facts about the cost of your fruits and vegtables!

-- The average household spends only about $1 a day on fresh fruits and vegetables.
-- Labor costs comprise only 6 percent of the price consumers pay for fresh produce. Thus, if farm wages were allowed to rise 40 percent, and if all the costs were passed on to consumers, the cost to the average household would be only about $8 a year.

$8.00 a year if wages went up 40%!!!!! hmm that would just kill you wouldnt it?

Of course we just established that stopping illegal immigration would have no effect on our supply of farm workers! Still Ill bet we here that same lame ass arguement from the uninformed over and over!

Lack of information just doesnt stop some!!drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Wed 11/07/07 09:34 PM
Your getting off cheap spur!!

Illegal immigration cost NC $997 million last year!!grumble grumble

Fanta46's photo
Wed 11/07/07 09:36 PM
Hell a few million more and we could go annex the country and collect taxes from the whole population of Mexico!!

and get their oil.........laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 11/07/07 10:21 PM
yo!!! Jax i am in love with the person not the national identity....


i see my friends as human beings drinker drinker :heart: bigsmile :heart: not as american or dutch or israeli

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Wed 11/07/07 10:23 PM
o yea.... and if i say i hate racists and americans doesn't that throw me into the pot i hate....


humour???? sarcasm???? sorry.... must have left it in your other pantslaugh laugh laugh laugh :wink:

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 11/07/07 10:28 PM
Sulking, walking off with head hanging low....Alex doesn't like me anymore....:cry: brokenheart But, I like yuuuuuuuuu.flowerforyou
Kat

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Wed 11/07/07 11:11 PM
i don't just like you Kat i love you.......


have watched you metamorphosize...mentally, emotionally , intellectually, socially , spiritually...geeeezze

you are an inspiration for me, very often woman.

i am fortunate to have found you in my journeyflowerforyou :heart: bigsmile :heart:

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 11/07/07 11:15 PM
Holy cow!!! I am forever in your spell Alex. You just made my day. Wow....wow....hell yea.
Katflowerforyou flowerforyou

dean6121's photo
Thu 11/08/07 06:51 AM
you know taking pics of people in public places is not illegal,

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 11/08/07 07:55 AM
It is if they do not want you too. If it is deemed as a stalking procedure. If I do not give permission to take my pic and you continue to do so, I will take action.
Stalkers are never condoned. To me; if someone sets out to bother and stalk and take pictures for their own agenda; it is stalking.
One would have to wonder how many people may get killed or harmed while playing vigilante.
Kat

dean6121's photo
Thu 11/08/07 09:50 AM
IT SEEMS POLICE ARE WILLING TO TURN A BLINDS EYE WHEN THEY FIND OUT THE MOTIVES OF PEOPLE TRYING TO DO A PUBLIC SERVICE THAT ISANT CAUSEING PHYSICAL HARM, PUBLIC DETERRANT WHEN DONE WITH OTHERS ARE A GREAT WAY TO CURBE ILLEGAL ACTIONS LIKE HIREING ILLEGALS TO WORK FOR THEM I AM SORRY KAT I DO RESPECT YOUR IDEALOGIC VIEWS BUT YOU SEEM TO OUT NUMBERED ON THESE GROUNDS THE MEDIA AND NOW CONGRESS IS SEEING THE WHOLE PICTURE,WATCH LOU DOBBS AT 7:00 PM AND STAY INFORMED ON THE CURRENT EVENTS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Longhair3456's photo
Thu 11/08/07 11:22 PM
dude tahnks for your support on keeping our country the way it i ssupposed to be. Leagal Immigration is cool. But not Illegal Immigratin. Iguess thats why they call it ILLEGAL. lol

dean6121's photo
Thu 11/08/07 11:49 PM
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THE U.S. AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS ONE OF THEM,BUT LIKE KAT AND OTHERS HAVE SAID WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED,I WAS TALKING WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO TOLD ME THAT SEVERAL OF THE HIGHER UPS IN THE CITI BANK WERE ARRESTED TODAY FOR CONSPIRACY FOR THEFT OF FUNDS 27 TRILLION DOLLARS AND HE GAVE ME A THREAD WHICH SAID THAT THE PAST 3 PRISEDENTS ARE INVOLVED WITH IT, WELL I DONT JUST BELIEVE WHAT I HEAR BUT I CHECKED OUT THE THREAD HE GAVE ME AND IT IS SCARY AS HELL TO ME HERE IS THE FIRST THREAD
www.worldreports.org/news/92_u.s._state_departmen
SO I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE PERSON AMBASSADOR WANTAS WAS REALLY A PERSON AND FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IN THE FIRST THREAD IS TRUE HERE IS THE SECOND THREAD
inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/ambassador-wantas-2002-appeal/
THERE IS NO WWW. IN FRONT OF THIS THREAD
IF WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE LEAST OF OUR PROBLEMS ARE THE ILLEGALS.THEY ARE TALKING OF ARRESTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA VICE PRESIDENT AND MANY MORE HIGHER UPS IN OUR GOVD. IF WHAT THEY SAY IS EVEN PARTLY TRUE WE ARE ALL DOOMED,HAVE YOUR GUNS READY..............