Topic: Pouting "Never Trump" Republicans
msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 11:58 AM



So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism

mightymoe's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:05 PM




So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:07 PM





So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple

mightymoe's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:12 PM






So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:14 PM







So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:24 PM


the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




Meanwhile, in this universe . . .

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 12:25 PM



the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




Meanwhile, in this universe . . .


yes, the one where we watch the muslims closely and remain aware of how indecent those folks sneaking from mexico are,,,


lol

mightymoe's photo
Sun 05/15/16 01:12 PM








So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever


doesn't matter how decent anyone is or isn't... you break the law, by default, you're a criminal... you're the one adding all the extra sauce here... if ANYONE wants to come into our country, they need to do it the legal way... why is that so wrong in your mind?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 01:17 PM









So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever


doesn't matter how decent anyone is or isn't... you break the law, by default, you're a criminal... you're the one adding all the extra sauce here... if ANYONE wants to come into our country, they need to do it the legal way... why is that so wrong in your mind?



the focus was not on whether 'anyone' comes

the focus was on the Mexicans that come and how they are mostly not decent people



mightymoe's photo
Sun 05/15/16 01:36 PM










So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever


doesn't matter how decent anyone is or isn't... you break the law, by default, you're a criminal... you're the one adding all the extra sauce here... if ANYONE wants to come into our country, they need to do it the legal way... why is that so wrong in your mind?



the focus was not on whether 'anyone' comes

the focus was on the Mexicans that come and how they are mostly not decent people





no, it was about stemming the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, which included muslim and all of central America... you liberals just hear what you want to hear...

no photo
Sun 05/15/16 02:06 PM








So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever


The law has different levels of criminality

J-walking should not be put on the same level as illegal immigration

I understand Trump will give priority to those people who actually contribute to society and grant them legal citizenship pretty quickly.

There's nothing wrong with that IMO, people from Mexico should not be in the US illegally. This is common sense

As for his Muslim position, he would be doing a terrible disservice to the country by restricting US entry based on religion, I can't see him even coming close to implementing that. Way stiffer scrutiny maybe?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/15/16 07:51 PM











So, wanting to prevent the illegal version of immigration and wanting to prevent foreign terrorists from entering the USA makes one a bully. Go figure.




if said terrorists are specifically limited to muslims,, yes

and if prevention of illegal immigration manifests with statements like this
""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.""


..another yes

the message says, don't trust muslims or Mexicans




and i heard was "do things the legal way"... so you're in support of breaking the laws? do you wanna go rob a bank as well? maybe we should just abandon enforcing all laws, and just live in total anarchism? that would make you and the rest of the liberals happy now, wouldn't it?...



cant help what you heard

I heard maybe 'some' Mexican immigrants are good people
and that muslims, specifically, need to be watched in their places of worship



I would be very 'happy' if we address illegal immigration and not scapegoat MEXICAN immigrants

I would be 'happy' if we address terrorism and not scapegoat muslims for terrorism


Mexican "illegal" immigrants... he never once said anything about anyone that's here legally...



lol,,, ok

so all the children and women sneaking in are pretty much criminal and rapist?


he speaks like an idiot,,plain and simple


a criminal is a criminal... they wouldn't be considered criminals if they came here the legal way...

when anyone breaks the law, they become a criminal by default... sorry the liberals can't/won't understand that, but it is true, nonetheless...



no kidding?

so everyone that hasn't crossed at a crosswalk is criminal by default?

everyone that hasn't used their seatbelt is criminal by default?

everyone that has gotten high or driven intoxicated is criminal by default?


everyone who has not stopped at a stop sign?

and all these people, by virtue of being 'criminal' are therefore automatically not 'decent'?



,,yeah,, whatever


doesn't matter how decent anyone is or isn't... you break the law, by default, you're a criminal... you're the one adding all the extra sauce here... if ANYONE wants to come into our country, they need to do it the legal way... why is that so wrong in your mind?



the focus was not on whether 'anyone' comes

the focus was on the Mexicans that come and how they are mostly not decent people





no, it was about stemming the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, which included muslim and all of central America... you liberals just hear what you want to hear...



my hearing has nothing to do with political affiliation

'when MEXICO sends,, I imagine 'some' of them may be decent'


I heard it loud and clear,,,but people can choose to ignore it like they do all his lies and insults and deceptions



no photo
Mon 05/16/16 02:37 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Mon 05/16/16 02:41 AM


Trump Rally Chants "BUILD A WALL BUILD A WALL

http://youtu.be/lLvtX01Fsj4/ 00:44

15.7 MILLION ILLEGALS
(Pew Institute)

#NeverHillary


Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/16/16 03:12 AM
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2016/03/22/mexican-consulates-in-us-hold-citizenship-clinics-so-immigrants-can-vote-against-trump/


Mexican Consulates In US Hold Citizenship Clinics so Immigrants Can Vote against Trump

South of the border, there are big Mexican plans for defeating Donald Trump in his campaign to become President of the United States. In an “unprecedented effort” by Mexico, that government is meddling in our internal affairs by helping legal (!) resident Mexicans get US citizenship to vote against the Republican front-runner.

Our unfriendly neighbor claims to respect American sovereignty but has a funny way of showing it. The effort is off the charts because the Mexican government is holding “citizenship clinics” at its consulates which are officially territory of Mexico.

Actually, it’s the same old backstabbing behavior with which we have become familiar.

Below, US citizenship study materials, like the civics flash cards shown, were handed out in the Denver Mexican Consulate during a workshop for Mexican citizens to become US voters.

Of course, the suits south of the border have figured out that a President Trump would likely end the gravy train of trans-border free stuff that helps prop up the corrupt pols who run wealthy Mexico.

Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County Arizona recently commented on the Mexican scheming to Fox’s Neal Cavuto, reminding him of Hillary’s promise to put all illegal aliens on a path to American citizenship — a major step beyond normal Democrat hispandering. So of course they Mexicans want Hillary, not Trump.

SHERIFF BABEU: They’re holding these actual citizenship meetings and one was held just in Vegas recently — 500 plus deferred action are looking to go to this meeting to find out what is it going to take to go from that permanent status to actually gain citizenship which means they get to vote. That’s troubling, that’s concerning, that’s unprecedented in the fact that Mexico and its diplomats are going all out to make this effort now, during our election. . . .

It feeds into the whole Democrat playbook. We saw just recently Hillary Clinton and Bernie both take the pledge by [Jorge] Ramos saying that they would not only defer action, they would never deport any of these illegals who are here.

Hillary Clinton went a step even further and says she wants to put all 12 million illegals on a path to citizenship. This is even over-reaching anything President Obama has done.

Interestingly, the Texas reporting about the consulate shenanigans provided a view into the Mexicans’ disinterest in becoming loyal Americans — instead, the desire for US voting is all about defeating Trump and the citizens who want their sovereignty defended. There is no positive feeling or gratitude toward America to be seen. In fact, the deputy consul Victor Arriaga assured the immigrants that “It is perfectly fine to have a second nationality.” In addition he observed that “People are very proud of being Mexican and want to retain their Mexican identity.”

A man from Chihuaha got the message, saying, “I won’t lose my Mexican nationality. I’ll have dual citizenship.”

This attitude is nothing new. Mexicans regard the US as extended territory of Mexico which belong to them more than us. In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed, “I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders.”

Note also the assistance of Catholic Charities, who prefer to keep Mexicans unassimilated and culturally attached to their homeland which makes them more dependable pew-fillers.

Trump candidacy inspires Mexican immigrants to scramble for citizenship, The Monitor (McAllen TX), March 20, 2016

DALLAS — Presidential candidate Donald Trump wants to build a huge wall along the Mexican border.

Mexican immigrants Lilia Garcia and Antonino Reyes want to build one around themselves.

This month, Garcia and Reyes joined a growing surge of legal permanent residents across the country inspired to seek U.S. citizenship in an effort to defend themselves against the leading Republican candidate.

Call it “efecto Trump,” the Trump effect.

“I want to vote now,” says Garcia, a 52-year-old native of Irapuato. “It will be easier to get my rights, and I want to show solidarity with the people who still need documents.”

Reyes, who is 84, fingers yellowed Mexican documents that look fragile like leaves and explain life passages like birth, marriage and entry into the U.S. Reyes wants to vote, too. “I want to do this because I see this senor Donald Trump. He’s crazy,” Reyes says.

Garcia, Reyes and other Mexican immigrants have an unusual ally in their quest — the Mexican government. The U.S. citizenship workshops at Mexican consulates are a first for the Mexican government — and part of a chain of such events being held by key consulates in the U.S., said Victor Arriaga, deputy Mexican consul in Dallas. The consulate is working with groups like Catholic Charities and the North Texas Dream Team and with pro-bono lawyers.

Arriaga worked the crowd at a recent Saturday workshop, telling them they could retain Mexican citizenship while also holding U.S. citizenship.

“It is perfectly fine to have a second nationality,” Arriaga said, explaining a Mexican law in 1998 that changed the rules covering Mexican citizenship and nationality. “People are very proud of being Mexican and want to retain their Mexican identity. But they can still be a citizen here and experience their rights here.”

Not since George Wallace, the then-governor of Alabama, in 1968 has there been such a heated presidential race involving attacks on groups of people, says Jesus Velasco, a political scientist at Tarleton State University. “Right now is a special moment in the history of the United States.”

Although there are some barrier walls along some portions of the border, Trump has said he would build an ever-higher wall. He’s also said he’d increase the number of federal agents at the border, though the number increased over the last decade to nearly 20,000. And he shocked many by saying the Mexican government wasn’t sending their “best people” but people who bring drugs and were rapists.

The words prompted Mexico’s Foreign Relations Minister Claudia Ruiz Massieu recently to call Trump’s comments “ignorante y racista.”

Trump’s response to the furor: “The Hispanics love me.”

Velasco, the political scientist, said the Mexican government is trying to capitalize on the anger at Trump among many Mexican immigrants, who are likely to vote Democrat.

It’s impact is difficult to gauge, though. What is certain for now is that Mexicans have had some of the lowest naturalization rates among immigrant groups who have the green cards of legal permanent residency. There are about 8.8 million legal residents eligible to naturalize overall and 30 percent of those are Mexicans, the top percentage around the globe, according to 2013 estimates by the U. S. Department of Homeland Security.

The Pew Research Center found even more troubling findings in their 2013 “The Path Not Taken” study. Nearly two-thirds of Mexicans who were eligible to become U.S. citizens haven’t taken the step, which includes taking a citizenship test.

“For Mexicans, the language barrier and being afraid to take the test are the main reasons,” said Ana Gonzalez-Barrera, a Pew research associate. A 1996 U.S. immigration law toughened treatment of immigrants. That inspired several foreign governments to change their laws regarding dual nationality, as “a sort of protection,” Gonzalez-Barrera said. “This is the first time the Mexican government is helping out and facilitating the naturalization,” she said.

Other campaigns have been launched nationally around naturalization. Among them are the Latino Victory Project and the National Partnership for New Americans, which calls the campaign the New American Democracy. They use Trump’s “they are not sending their best” statements meshed with video of immigrants and their job titles: scientist, lawyer, community organizer, astronaut. The ending: “Our future is at stake. “NaturalizeNow.”

The U.S. offers exemptions to its English-language civics test and allows for certain immigrants to take the test in their native language. They include exemptions for those over the age of 50 who have lived in the U.S. for 20 years as a permanent resident and another for those over the age of 55 who have lived as a permanent resident in the U.S. for 15 years.

Across the nation, the flow of citizenship applications has increased 14.5 percent in the six months through January, the most recent data available, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Dallas has the nation’s fourth-largest population of Mexican immigrants, after Los Angeles, Chicago and Houston, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a D.C. nonprofit.

It can take up to six months for application processing in North Texas at the federal citizenship agency. At two weekend citizenship workshops in Dallas, volunteers saw hundreds of applicants, including a 93-year-old man.

“They are so enthusiastic about being citizens,” said Martin Valko, a volunteer lawyer at the event. Most told Valko they wanted to vote in this year’s presidential election.

Yasmin Rascon, a 38-year-old Chihuahua native with two U.S. citizen sons, said she applied for U.S. citizenship because of the anti-immigrant atmosphere in the U.S. elections.

“With the situation, I thought it was best to convert to U.S. citizenship,” Rascon said. “I won’t lose my Mexican nationality. I’ll have dual citizenship.”

mightymoe's photo
Mon 05/16/16 08:33 AM

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2016/03/22/mexican-consulates-in-us-hold-citizenship-clinics-so-immigrants-can-vote-against-trump/


Mexican Consulates In US Hold Citizenship Clinics so Immigrants Can Vote against Trump

South of the border, there are big Mexican plans for defeating Donald Trump in his campaign to become President of the United States. In an “unprecedented effort” by Mexico, that government is meddling in our internal affairs by helping legal (!) resident Mexicans get US citizenship to vote against the Republican front-runner.

Our unfriendly neighbor claims to respect American sovereignty but has a funny way of showing it. The effort is off the charts because the Mexican government is holding “citizenship clinics” at its consulates which are officially territory of Mexico.

Actually, it’s the same old backstabbing behavior with which we have become familiar.

Below, US citizenship study materials, like the civics flash cards shown, were handed out in the Denver Mexican Consulate during a workshop for Mexican citizens to become US voters.

Of course, the suits south of the border have figured out that a President Trump would likely end the gravy train of trans-border free stuff that helps prop up the corrupt pols who run wealthy Mexico.

Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County Arizona recently commented on the Mexican scheming to Fox’s Neal Cavuto, reminding him of Hillary’s promise to put all illegal aliens on a path to American citizenship — a major step beyond normal Democrat hispandering. So of course they Mexicans want Hillary, not Trump.

SHERIFF BABEU: They’re holding these actual citizenship meetings and one was held just in Vegas recently — 500 plus deferred action are looking to go to this meeting to find out what is it going to take to go from that permanent status to actually gain citizenship which means they get to vote. That’s troubling, that’s concerning, that’s unprecedented in the fact that Mexico and its diplomats are going all out to make this effort now, during our election. . . .

It feeds into the whole Democrat playbook. We saw just recently Hillary Clinton and Bernie both take the pledge by [Jorge] Ramos saying that they would not only defer action, they would never deport any of these illegals who are here.

Hillary Clinton went a step even further and says she wants to put all 12 million illegals on a path to citizenship. This is even over-reaching anything President Obama has done.

Interestingly, the Texas reporting about the consulate shenanigans provided a view into the Mexicans’ disinterest in becoming loyal Americans — instead, the desire for US voting is all about defeating Trump and the citizens who want their sovereignty defended. There is no positive feeling or gratitude toward America to be seen. In fact, the deputy consul Victor Arriaga assured the immigrants that “It is perfectly fine to have a second nationality.” In addition he observed that “People are very proud of being Mexican and want to retain their Mexican identity.”

A man from Chihuaha got the message, saying, “I won’t lose my Mexican nationality. I’ll have dual citizenship.”

This attitude is nothing new. Mexicans regard the US as extended territory of Mexico which belong to them more than us. In 1997, then-President Zedillo proclaimed, “I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders.”

Note also the assistance of Catholic Charities, who prefer to keep Mexicans unassimilated and culturally attached to their homeland which makes them more dependable pew-fillers.

Trump candidacy inspires Mexican immigrants to scramble for citizenship, The Monitor (McAllen TX), March 20, 2016

DALLAS — Presidential candidate Donald Trump wants to build a huge wall along the Mexican border.

Mexican immigrants Lilia Garcia and Antonino Reyes want to build one around themselves.

This month, Garcia and Reyes joined a growing surge of legal permanent residents across the country inspired to seek U.S. citizenship in an effort to defend themselves against the leading Republican candidate.

Call it “efecto Trump,” the Trump effect.

“I want to vote now,” says Garcia, a 52-year-old native of Irapuato. “It will be easier to get my rights, and I want to show solidarity with the people who still need documents.”

Reyes, who is 84, fingers yellowed Mexican documents that look fragile like leaves and explain life passages like birth, marriage and entry into the U.S. Reyes wants to vote, too. “I want to do this because I see this senor Donald Trump. He’s crazy,” Reyes says.

Garcia, Reyes and other Mexican immigrants have an unusual ally in their quest — the Mexican government. The U.S. citizenship workshops at Mexican consulates are a first for the Mexican government — and part of a chain of such events being held by key consulates in the U.S., said Victor Arriaga, deputy Mexican consul in Dallas. The consulate is working with groups like Catholic Charities and the North Texas Dream Team and with pro-bono lawyers.

Arriaga worked the crowd at a recent Saturday workshop, telling them they could retain Mexican citizenship while also holding U.S. citizenship.

“It is perfectly fine to have a second nationality,” Arriaga said, explaining a Mexican law in 1998 that changed the rules covering Mexican citizenship and nationality. “People are very proud of being Mexican and want to retain their Mexican identity. But they can still be a citizen here and experience their rights here.”

Not since George Wallace, the then-governor of Alabama, in 1968 has there been such a heated presidential race involving attacks on groups of people, says Jesus Velasco, a political scientist at Tarleton State University. “Right now is a special moment in the history of the United States.”

Although there are some barrier walls along some portions of the border, Trump has said he would build an ever-higher wall. He’s also said he’d increase the number of federal agents at the border, though the number increased over the last decade to nearly 20,000. And he shocked many by saying the Mexican government wasn’t sending their “best people” but people who bring drugs and were rapists.

The words prompted Mexico’s Foreign Relations Minister Claudia Ruiz Massieu recently to call Trump’s comments “ignorante y racista.”

Trump’s response to the furor: “The Hispanics love me.”

Velasco, the political scientist, said the Mexican government is trying to capitalize on the anger at Trump among many Mexican immigrants, who are likely to vote Democrat.

It’s impact is difficult to gauge, though. What is certain for now is that Mexicans have had some of the lowest naturalization rates among immigrant groups who have the green cards of legal permanent residency. There are about 8.8 million legal residents eligible to naturalize overall and 30 percent of those are Mexicans, the top percentage around the globe, according to 2013 estimates by the U. S. Department of Homeland Security.

The Pew Research Center found even more troubling findings in their 2013 “The Path Not Taken” study. Nearly two-thirds of Mexicans who were eligible to become U.S. citizens haven’t taken the step, which includes taking a citizenship test.

“For Mexicans, the language barrier and being afraid to take the test are the main reasons,” said Ana Gonzalez-Barrera, a Pew research associate. A 1996 U.S. immigration law toughened treatment of immigrants. That inspired several foreign governments to change their laws regarding dual nationality, as “a sort of protection,” Gonzalez-Barrera said. “This is the first time the Mexican government is helping out and facilitating the naturalization,” she said.

Other campaigns have been launched nationally around naturalization. Among them are the Latino Victory Project and the National Partnership for New Americans, which calls the campaign the New American Democracy. They use Trump’s “they are not sending their best” statements meshed with video of immigrants and their job titles: scientist, lawyer, community organizer, astronaut. The ending: “Our future is at stake. “NaturalizeNow.”

The U.S. offers exemptions to its English-language civics test and allows for certain immigrants to take the test in their native language. They include exemptions for those over the age of 50 who have lived in the U.S. for 20 years as a permanent resident and another for those over the age of 55 who have lived as a permanent resident in the U.S. for 15 years.

Across the nation, the flow of citizenship applications has increased 14.5 percent in the six months through January, the most recent data available, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Dallas has the nation’s fourth-largest population of Mexican immigrants, after Los Angeles, Chicago and Houston, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a D.C. nonprofit.

It can take up to six months for application processing in North Texas at the federal citizenship agency. At two weekend citizenship workshops in Dallas, volunteers saw hundreds of applicants, including a 93-year-old man.

“They are so enthusiastic about being citizens,” said Martin Valko, a volunteer lawyer at the event. Most told Valko they wanted to vote in this year’s presidential election.

Yasmin Rascon, a 38-year-old Chihuahua native with two U.S. citizen sons, said she applied for U.S. citizenship because of the anti-immigrant atmosphere in the U.S. elections.

“With the situation, I thought it was best to convert to U.S. citizenship,” Rascon said. “I won’t lose my Mexican nationality. I’ll have dual citizenship.”


see? he's not even president yet, and it's already starting to work...

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Tue 05/17/16 08:48 AM

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Tue 05/17/16 09:14 AM
Say what you will about Trump but he's not going to be president. I understand there are a lot of people mad in this nation right now, and they want changes to happen, and all that, but you have to understand who Trump is.

I've followed Trump's exploits since the late 1970s. He has been and always will be a spoiled child. He's going to say whatever he wants just to get people to side with him. He's done this throughout history, and he's lied and cheated his way to get everything his way.

I think it's rather disturbing and alarming that he's getting support from people like White Supremacists, the KKK, you know, the people we actually SHOULD be deporting in this country? =P

Trump supporters are in for the shock of their lives, that's all I can say. They're following this man because he's different, and unique, and radical, and thinks he's going to solve all of the nation's problems because he's not government material.

Already, he's pulling back from many of the statements he's already made to his supporters - promises he intended to keep. Banning Muslims from the country? "Just a suggestion", he now claims. Deporting over 7 million illegal immigrants? "that would be impossible", he now says. I mean, don't you people understand what's going on here?

Trump is treating this whole campaign as one colossal reality TV show. He's making a mockery of our nation, and our lives.

How anyone can still side with him, support him, actually BELIEVE in him...is just truly clueless and under-educated.

I'd like to believe we do still live in a nation of intelligence and common sense. If the American people truly vote in a charlatan, a reality-TV star, then they deserve whatever is unleashed onto the world.

The only reason Trump is even a figurehead today is because of the likes of Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz. No one WANTS to be thrust into the spotlight anymore and run for office. Why should they? The minute a name is cast into the ring, aren't we all going Google-crazy in a frenzy to dig up whatever we can on them? It's what we do, isn't it?

Respectfully, I am sorry that so many Americans are angry over the state of their country. But, you know what, if they got off their collective butts and actually did something with their own lives, maybe they wouldn't be so angry. =)

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Tue 05/17/16 09:15 AM


#Neverpresidentbully
#neverapsychopath




He's coming for you MsH.laugh


Well it looks like he's getting ready to screw the Reptilican party, and theirs nothing they can do about. Lol.

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Tue 05/17/16 09:19 AM
Edited by Robxbox73 on Tue 05/17/16 09:23 AM

Say what you will about Trump but he's not going to be president. I understand there are a lot of people mad in this nation right now, and they want changes to happen, and all that, but you have to understand who Trump is.

I've followed Trump's exploits since the late 1970s. He has been and always will be a spoiled child. He's going to say whatever he wants just to get people to side with him. He's done this throughout history, and he's lied and cheated his way to get everything his way.

I think it's rather disturbing and alarming that he's getting support from people like White Supremacists, the KKK, you know, the people we actually SHOULD be deporting in this country? =P

Trump supporters are in for the shock of their lives, that's all I can say. They're following this man because he's different, and unique, and radical, and thinks he's going to solve all of the nation's problems because he's not government material.

Already, he's pulling back from many of the statements he's already made to his supporters - promises he intended to keep. Banning Muslims from the country? "Just a suggestion", he now claims. Deporting over 7 million illegal immigrants? "that would be impossible", he now says. I mean, don't you people understand what's going on here?

Trump is treating this whole campaign as one colossal reality TV show. He's making a mockery of our nation, and our lives.

How anyone can still side with him, support him, actually BELIEVE in him...is just truly clueless and under-educated.

I'd like to believe we do still live in a nation of intelligence and common sense. If the American people truly vote in a charlatan, a reality-TV star, then they deserve whatever is unleashed onto the world.

The only reason Trump is even a figurehead today is because of the likes of Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz. No one WANTS to be thrust into the spotlight anymore and run for office. Why should they? The minute a name is cast into the ring, aren't we all going Google-crazy in a frenzy to dig up whatever we can on them? It's what we do, isn't it?

Respectfully, I am sorry that so many Americans are angry over the state of their country. But, you know what, if they got off their collective butts and actually did something with their own lives, maybe they wouldn't be so angry. =)



Wow nice refreshing point of view. Thanks! Yup once he takes office and becomes King of America, all these Trumpo supporters will be screaming for impeachment for acting like a liberal. But when the crowd is screaming for blood, blood is what they will get.

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Tue 05/17/16 09:27 AM
"Boston men jailed for Trump-inspired hate crime attack"

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/05/16/boston-men-jailed-for-trump-inspired-hate-crime-attack


1/ * If Mr.Trump is found guilty of "Hate Crime" in Canada will the U.S. voter care ?

2/ * If Ms. Clinton is found guilty in the U.S. will the U.S. Justice department Impeach ?


3/ * Could selecting a President by lottery be a profitable and a truer representation of the people.

4/ * Both of the leaders are a clear refection of America Today.
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