Topic: Mississippi vs LGBT Agenda
Goofball73's photo
Wed 04/13/16 12:37 PM
Okay, so since I live in this state, allow me to say something about this. First of all, Mr. Adams can not agree with a law. That is his choice, just as it is a choice for the residents to like or not like the law. Second, his "stance" followed what Springsteen did in North Carolina, so basically the dude is a copycat...but ok. Third....his FANS paid to see him perform, and because of a law he doesn't like he has decided to not perform (but hopes that because he is Bryan Adams, that he will get the Mississippi government to change their ways). BTW....Adams has been a regular to the state because the casino's in Biloxi love bringing him in cause he will sell out 3000 to 5000 seat arena. Now he won't come because he basically thinks he is like Springsteen. Honestly, I could care less if he performs here. But what bothers me is that his fans paid to see him and now he wants to protest and boycott the state. Nice move Adams.....you haven't been relevant since the early 90's and most young people probably had to Google who you are. laugh

Argo's photo
Wed 04/13/16 02:18 PM
I don't know how to make a blue-link on here, but i can read
and educate myself by learning from scholars of the law and the
constitution...anyone else who would care to view these points
of law being discussed in this thread should access this info
and make up your own mind about the validity of house bill 1523..

it is plenty easy enough to find if you google

>>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution <<<

[PDF]here - Columbia Law School - Columbia University.
https://web.law.columbia.edu/.../memo_regarding...


as for the bs about cancelling concert tickets that anyone
has already paid for...i'm like 100% sure your money is
going to be refunded...no questions asked...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/13/16 02:45 PM

I don't know how to make a blue-link on here, but i can read
and educate myself by learning from scholars of the law and the
constitution...anyone else who would care to view these points
of law being discussed in this thread should access this info
and make up your own mind about the validity of house bill 1523..

it is plenty easy enough to find if you google

>>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution <<<

[PDF]here - Columbia Law School - Columbia University.
https://web.law.columbia.edu/.../memo_regarding...


as for the bs about cancelling concert tickets that anyone
has already paid for...i'm like 100% sure your money is
going to be refunded...no questions asked...


maybe you might some more education... permission denied on that link...

Argo's photo
Wed 04/13/16 03:01 PM
try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/13/16 03:15 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 04/13/16 03:16 PM

try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...

Argo's photo
Wed 04/13/16 04:33 PM
as i said everyone can read it for themselves and make up
their own mind...personally i see way more than a few ways
this bill discriminates against select individuals...

i don't think religious beliefs should influence government
policy or whether service should be denied to anyone in a
public accommodation open to all citizens...

btw this bill does not take effect until July 1, 2016 and i think
all this boycotting and protesting is to get the bill repealed or
at the least amended before that date...and if it is still on the books at that time you can be sure the ACLU will have hundreds if not thousands of people headed to mississippi to challenge it and see how many lawsuits can be filed for violation of their civil rights...

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:14 PM


try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:14 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Wed 04/13/16 06:24 PM
It does not matter if one lawyer or a thousand say the Mississippi bill is unconstitutional. (Nor the LGBT alphabet soup people). It proves nothing. And isn't worth reading. (We have 8 Supremes who don't agree on everything or perhaps nothing.)

It is SIMPLE: If something is not listed as illegal it is legal.
A perfect example is marriage. Each state determines the legal age for marriage. It also determines if you can or can not marry a first cousin. Unless the state law says it is illegal, then it is illegal to marry a first cousin. So approximately, 25% of states, people can.
It is NOT constitutional or unconstitutional, and neither is the state determining martial age.

The Mississippi bill is not unconstitutional, because they have the right as a state, to preserve what already exists (for them).

If we as a nation voted to make English our official language, would that be unconstitutional? No, because it already exists. And it would be, preserving.

States have (reinforced), their justice system to protect themselves from a Sharia law system. Is that unconstitutional? No, our courts & justice system already exists. And they are preserving it.

Some states have stricter laws to protect animals that others. In some states a cat or dog is a pet. In some states they are livestock. In some states bestiality will get you arrested & fined. In other states it is a felony charge & jail time.

If Mississippi is concerned about men in dresses going into public bathrooms or locker rooms (where there are women & children) to have a 'tea party'... Then they are preserving not only a way of life, but preventing future crimes & protecting the sovereignty of their state.

Because that is what this is REALLY about.. STATE SOVEREIGNTY
Giving that up in the name of anything or for some whiney groups screaming would not only be a shame but unconstitutional.



Here is the actual bill (for those who have been here forever but can't post links).


http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2016/html/HB/1500-1599/HB1523SG.htm



mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:17 PM



try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be


i think what they are mad about is the state defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing else... everything else in the bill revolves around that...

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:21 PM




try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be


i think what they are mad about is the state defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing else... everything else in the bill revolves around that...
That..and the whole dudes wearing dresses using the ladies room thing....they think thats ok.

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:24 PM




try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be


i think what they are mad about is the state defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing else... everything else in the bill revolves around that...


everything revolves around not punishing people for choosing not to participate in activity that is against their religious beliefs pertaining to

gender and marriage



mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:24 PM





try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be


i think what they are mad about is the state defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing else... everything else in the bill revolves around that...
That..and the whole dudes wearing dresses using the ladies room thing....they think thats ok.


i don't get how the weirdo's think that's a "right"...

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 06:36 PM



try this for the tech challenged like me....

GOOGLE >>> how does HB 1523 violate the US Constitution...

then scroll down a few entries until you see
the PDF from Columbia Law School then do some
reading by some educated Professors of Law...

its not hard...even i could do that...


there's a few items in the HB 1523 that violates the constitution that's pretty noticeable, and other parts don't... there's nothing in the constitution that says a male can use a female bathroom, i can't see how that violates any freedoms...


the bill doesn't supercede constitution anyway

a lot of things people assume are 'rights' are no where in the constitution,,,

on this we absolutely agree

They say the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids the government from singling out any particular religion or belief to favor or disfavor.


the bill does not single out any particular religion, it only allows for freedom of religion,,whatever the religion may be


Can't wait till they go after Sharia law communities. Especially an entire city like Dear Born Michigan. .. :laughing: Fireworks & screams of persecution from people who may not even be protected by the constitution.

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 08:19 PM
Well theres a silver lining from all these boycotts...for North Carolina at least.....


"" Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore drew
cheers on social media after announcing
Tuesday that he has pulled his
documentaries from North Carolina
theaters, but not for the reasons he may
have anticipated.
“I have asked my distributor NOT to book
my film in any theater in North Carolina due
2 their bigoted law against LGBTQ ppl.
They have agreed,” Mr. Moore said on
Twitter.
The filmmaker was flooded with comments
such as “please boycott TN as well,” “add
PA as well” and “Hey, SOUTH Carolina is
considering a similar law! Better boycott
us, too, just to be on the safe side.”
“The people of 36 other states see new
wisdom in North Carolina’s clearly self-
interested stand,” said another Tweet

Several commenters doctored photos
online of the “Welcome to North Carolina”
sign that included the phrase “A Michael
Moore-free state.”"
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/12/michael-moores-north-carolina-boycott-spurs-calls-/

rofl rofl rofl at this idiot trying to remain relevant laugh

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 08:23 PM
“A Michael
Moore-free state.

":banana:

Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 04/13/16 08:31 PM
Michael Moore lives in my state....someone please take him!!!
Since he thinks so highly of Cuba maybe they'll take him.

But there might be an excuse for his lunacy....he may have a mental disability from lead poisoning since his mansion is in Flint.

no photo
Wed 04/13/16 08:40 PM
And more from North Carolina... Ringo Star is boycotting now.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/13/ringo-starr-cancels-concert-north-carolina-protest-anti-lgbt-law/

With all the trouble & protests & riots in the UK ... He can't find a reason to stay home & annoy people?

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/13/16 09:46 PM


Singer Bryan Adams cancels Mississippi show to protest new anti-LGBT law

Eh.

Singers have done crap like this before.

Usually it's because of things like ticket sales were low, or they didn't charge enough for tickets so the singer wasn't making enough, or their health was bad but they didn't want to announce it to the world.

Better to pretend to do something for altruistic reasons than selfish ones.


Hey man, it's Bryan frickin Adams...Everything He Does, He Does it For Us.....



LMAOrofl rofl rofl rofl


now that was funny...lol

Darryl1611's photo
Wed 04/13/16 10:47 PM
This whole LGBT crap is all about Political Correctness and who's gonna be gullible enough to "buy into it." No matter if their argument comes from religion or from genetics or from discrimination or from environment or from how they were raised - and the list goes on... The ONLY "puzzle piece" that's ALWAYS missing from the LGBT discussion concerning "the lifestyle" is the HEALTH RISKS which are associated with the Gay Bisexual Life. There are NO WARNINGS - ONLY on Government Public Health Websites like AIDS.gov and the CDC website. There are NO PSA's like there are with smoking - or drinking/drugging while driving. WHY? Because it's NOT "Politically Correct" - even though DISEASE and DEATH is running RAMPANT.

From AIDS.Gov - Although MSM (men having sex with men) represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of NEW HIV infections among males and 63% of ALL NEW infections. MSM accounted for 54% of all people living with HIV infection in 2011, the most recent year these data are available.

From CDC - 83% of primary and secondary syphilis cases where sex of sex partner was known in the United States. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men often get other STDs, including chlamydia and gonorrhea infections. 83%!!!

Still NO WARNINGS to our Youth about the LGBT Lifestyle! NO PSA's on TV. Instead, we've got more guys talking with a lisp, and petite gals on TV kicking men's ***** all over the room - while we are all arguing "nonsense" about transgendered bathrooms in our kids schools and a couple of over-the-hill rock stars saying they won't play their music because they think someone suffered discrimination? Perhaps they should FORCE every venue which they play to install transgendered bathrooms into their arenas or they won't perform as a way of making a statement. NO WAY! That "hurts" their pocketbook! Hypocrites!

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/13/16 10:54 PM

This whole LGBT crap is all about Political Correctness and who's gonna be gullible enough to "buy into it." No matter if their argument comes from religion or from genetics or from discrimination or from environment or from how they were raised - and the list goes on... The ONLY "puzzle piece" that's ALWAYS missing from the LGBT discussion concerning "the lifestyle" is the HEALTH RISKS which are associated with the Gay Bisexual Life. There are NO WARNINGS - ONLY on Government Public Health Websites like AIDS.gov and the CDC website. There are NO PSA's like there are with smoking - or drinking/drugging while driving. WHY? Because it's NOT "Politically Correct" - even though DISEASE and DEATH is running RAMPANT.

From AIDS.Gov - Although MSM (men having sex with men) represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of NEW HIV infections among males and 63% of ALL NEW infections. MSM accounted for 54% of all people living with HIV infection in 2011, the most recent year these data are available.

From CDC - 83% of primary and secondary syphilis cases where sex of sex partner was known in the United States. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men often get other STDs, including chlamydia and gonorrhea infections. 83%!!!

Still NO WARNINGS to our Youth about the LGBT Lifestyle! NO PSA's on TV. Instead, we've got more guys talking with a lisp, and petite gals on TV kicking men's ***** all over the room - while we are all arguing "nonsense" about transgendered bathrooms in our kids schools and a couple of over-the-hill rock stars saying they won't play their music because they think someone suffered discrimination? Perhaps they should FORCE every venue which they play to install transgendered bathrooms into their arenas or they won't perform as a way of making a statement. NO WAY! That "hurts" their pocketbook! Hypocrites!



only good thing about it is that population problem could solve itself in a few hundred years...ohwell