Topic: Just how fed up are you with Washington?
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Tue 03/15/16 02:07 PM
Republicans say they may hold a Republican Convention if Donald Trump has the needed delegates to be the nominee for their party.
I feel what this Unionized Party is doing, is to keep Mr. Trump out, because this man has made waves and continues to, regarding our nation, our lost good paying jobs, our sovereignty, our Freedoms and Liberties, our Constitution, and what he feels needs an enormous change to bring this nation back on track to be respected by the world, and even by some that live here.
Washington/both parties is so afraid of losing their grip on their political agenda, their lies, scams, hidden taxes to keep themselves wealthy while the voters struggle again.
This is why an outsider is needed, to bust up and oust out this political thievery ring that prey upon us year after year. We lose, they gain from all directions. When the economy is bad, so should their salaries become smaller. Washington is full of lies and deceit.
What does it take for anyone to understand Washington is looking out for Washington and no one else? You go Mr. Trump, take them all to the cleaners as they have done America for decades. This is long over due in my opinion and much desired by many voters.
If a Republican Convention is held, there will be not only chaos, but a flat our peaceful war to not file a tax return with voters, you watch. Washington elites deserve everything coming to them.
Trump 2016!!!!!!

metalwing's photo
Tue 03/15/16 02:30 PM
You are correct, but Trump can't put a term limit on Congress. He can't change the laws protecting Civil Service. He can't reform the campaign contribution problem (which allows everyone from both parties to be bought).

It's hard to say what Trump might do but he sure couldn't do a worse job than what is being done now. The US is bankrupt.

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Tue 03/15/16 02:52 PM

You are correct, but Trump can't put a term limit on Congress. He can't change the laws protecting Civil Service. He can't reform the campaign contribution problem (which allows everyone from both parties to be bought).

It's hard to say what Trump might do but he sure couldn't do a worse job than what is being done now. The US is bankrupt.

Totally agree with your comment, thanks. There is a reason for Mr. Trump putting his name in the hat, he actually forced Washington to hear what we have loudly said for years. My hats off to him.
Trump 2016.

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Tue 03/15/16 07:38 PM

Republicans say they may hold a Republican Convention if Donald Trump has the needed delegates to be the nominee for their party.
I feel what this Unionized Party is doing, is to keep Mr. Trump out, because this man has made waves and continues to, regarding our nation, our lost good paying jobs, our sovereignty, our Freedoms and Liberties, our Constitution, and what he feels needs an enormous change to bring this nation back on track to be respected by the world, and even by some that live here.
Washington/both parties is so afraid of losing their grip on their political agenda, their lies, scams, hidden taxes to keep themselves wealthy while the voters struggle again.
This is why an outsider is needed, to bust up and oust out this political thievery ring that prey upon us year after year. We lose, they gain from all directions. When the economy is bad, so should their salaries become smaller. Washington is full of lies and deceit.
What does it take for anyone to understand Washington is looking out for Washington and no one else? You go Mr. Trump, take them all to the cleaners as they have done America for decades. This is long over due in my opinion and much desired by many voters.
If a Republican Convention is held, there will be not only chaos, but a flat our peaceful war to not file a tax return with voters, you watch. Washington elites deserve everything coming to them.
Trump 2016!!!!!!


yes, what America needs to combat a washington that is looking out for itself is a billionaire salesman who is looking out for his self


,,makes perfect sensefrustrated

technovative's photo
Tue 03/15/16 08:25 PM
Edited by technovative on Tue 03/15/16 09:16 PM
^^^
:thumbsup:
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Hmm... so the most prosperous economy on the planet is bankrupt?

Trump trumps his own penchant for "success" through financial bankruptcy with his moral bankruptcy. Maybe he is the right man for the job... nah! laugh

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Tue 03/15/16 09:41 PM


I love watching them say Trump will be a disaster for America.

Then they ask if he is the nominee will you support him.. Of course I will.

So Disaster is ok, as long as its a Republican.


Rock's photo
Tue 03/15/16 09:54 PM
The Bum-in-Chief is getting tossed out in January, 2017.
That's a start. :thumbsup:

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Tue 03/15/16 09:57 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Tue 03/15/16 09:57 PM
The biggest impediment to change isn't the President. It rarely is. After all, Presidents talk about things like "hope and change" all the time, but if the Congress they face digs in it's heels and refuses to support the President at all, or outright undercuts them, as happened for the last six years, then nothing gets done, or damage gets done.

The point is, no matter how heroic a President Americans tell themselves they elected, if they keep putting obstructionists, political hacks, and or pre-bribed people into the Senate and the House, only more of the same will result.

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Tue 03/15/16 10:48 PM
do you believe people really think if he says its gonna get done, it will, just cause he demands it?

like making mexico pay for a wall
or telling world leaders we aren't going to pay debts because we don't have the money

and other stuff that's worked in his billionaire utopia, that don't translate into the rest of the world?


I'm hoping its a very small fraction that truly believe he has that kind of uncontestable pull

JaiGi's photo
Wed 03/16/16 03:24 AM
Consider this out-of-the-box view:

Problem is what America does today, the World tends to follow
tomorrow. By World i mean other countries leaders and influence rs

Not the World media - the BBC and The Guardian opine and behave
exactly in line with US media. So does Indian media.

Till yesterday, the World generally favored the Democrats.
Mainly cause, Democrats are 'seen' as not being 'trigger happy'.
Mr. Carter, Mr. Clinton had reinforced these impressions.

In last few years; World's situation changed drastically:
Global slump (Wall St. trigger), Greece bankruptcy, the Rise of China's Military (N.Korea), ISIS and there could be more to come.

Hence my 2 cents:

If Clinton, then she maintains present status-quo (at best).
translation: debt increases; eventually tipping to point where dollar
slides. imagine World economy getting re-pegged to the 'Yuan' or
Euro. For Americans, starts eroding your exports.
For developing countries like India, uncertainties due from currency
fluctuations. The only institutes that prosper then are banks &,
W.St. again!

if nothing else, Mr. Funny Face is a negotiator - a person who can stand in another's shoes; discuss options.

For example the Wall:
Logic says, Mr. Trump may go for multi-level perimeter intrusion
systems; like airports do. Contract will be awarded to Lockheed Martin; and when things like this start happening, the House starts
to come together.

Why leave the Mexicans out? They could take some of the work;
may be perimeter leveling. Payment? They could get to keep
the used equipment; as part payment. Quite normal in construction
sub-contracting.

The nice thing about the debates was Trump increased his choices for
his Team. Chris Christie, Ben Carson, Palin: all Presidential material. The World got to see them; and respect them.

With Hillary & i may be totally off base here, we don't see
her Team. Just Mr. Clinton; & he's older now to hang around
campaigns. (Hillary, overlooked this; a big mistake)

The World met Hillary as Secretary of State; and earlier Ms. Rice.
later Mr. Kerry. Big differences, Hillary never came through as
Obama's mate - for good or bad. The World can only conclude that
Hillary was running her campaign even while Secy. a scam??

With Mr. Trump, the World can get back into business.
A handshake is a deal.

Mr. T may have several weaknesses but among his strengths is
his versatility to relate with different audiences. He won't try
to fit the World to America's framework; instead he may rework the
frame itself, to fit us all in!!

At one time, World had similar expectations from Mr. Obama;
in fact he made some great starts; but then didn't expanded on it.
Maybe because he didn't have time; or delegated it or some other.

Now before you people say it, i will. The World does not get ruffled
with what's happening inside our House or our neighbor's House.
These are all predictable and not economy changing. If China goes
broke, or Europe grows broke; the effects can still be contained.

For instance, India has given some reconstruction aid to Afghanistan.
But India cannot deploy a peace-keeping force there without an okay
from the UN even when the Afghan government invites us to do so.
It has to come through the UN and US controls the UN.

thanks & please carry on.
glasses


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Wed 03/16/16 05:12 PM
I see no evidence of him being a great negotiator,, he has failed casinos and many other non real estate ventures, he gets in a pickle and he is either a no show or resorts to threats



all I see is a spoiled billionaire who does well marketing himself as some negotiating genius,,,,,,while behaving like a third grader(and speaking like one too)

InvictusV's photo
Wed 03/16/16 07:28 PM

The biggest impediment to change isn't the President. It rarely is. After all, Presidents talk about things like "hope and change" all the time, but if the Congress they face digs in it's heels and refuses to support the President at all, or outright undercuts them, as happened for the last six years, then nothing gets done, or damage gets done.

The point is, no matter how heroic a President Americans tell themselves they elected, if they keep putting obstructionists, political hacks, and or pre-bribed people into the Senate and the House, only more of the same will result.


This is pretty comical because Obama has pretty much gotten whatever the phuck he wanted.

If the Congress didn't bend over for him fast enough then he used an executive order.

And to be honest you don't have a single fact to back up your opinion in that entire post..

Where are the facts? Where is the evidence you always blather on about?


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Wed 03/16/16 08:23 PM
"Republicans say they may hold a Republican Convention if Donald Trump has the needed delegates to be the nominee for their party."????

No, the Republicans WILL have a convention and so will the Democrats. The question is whether the Republicans will have regular convention in which a candidate has the required 1237 delegates needed to be nominated....or will they have a "brokered convention" or a "contested convention" which are different.
Do you understand the nominating process? SMH

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Wed 03/16/16 09:07 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 03/16/16 09:08 PM


The biggest impediment to change isn't the President. It rarely is. After all, Presidents talk about things like "hope and change" all the time, but if the Congress they face digs in it's heels and refuses to support the President at all, or outright undercuts them, as happened for the last six years, then nothing gets done, or damage gets done.

The point is, no matter how heroic a President Americans tell themselves they elected, if they keep putting obstructionists, political hacks, and or pre-bribed people into the Senate and the House, only more of the same will result.


This is pretty comical because Obama has pretty much gotten whatever the phuck he wanted.

If the Congress didn't bend over for him fast enough then he used an executive order.

And to be honest you don't have a single fact to back up your opinion in that entire post..

Where are the facts? Where is the evidence you always blather on about?





executive orders yearly average by Obama 33

the LOWEST since Grover Cleveland

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php


yrly average 137 bills passed during obamas presidency


compared to 228 for bush jr


227 for Clinton

318 for George sr

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/statistics




but yea, Obama is just issuing EO's left and right and congress is passing his proposals all the time

frustrated






as well as the LOWEST rate of passed legislation by congress sincefrustrated frustrated frustrated

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Wed 03/16/16 10:18 PM
Washington 2010.....

"" Obamacare was signed into law in March 2010.
If you recall, Nancy Pelosi’s Democratic
majority in the House of Representatives was
unable to pass their version of a healthcare law.
Because all revenue bills have to originate in
the House, the Senate found a bill that met
those qualifications: HR3590, a military housing
bill. They essentially stripped the bill of its
original language and turned it into the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA),
aka Obamacare.
The Senate at that time had 60 Democrats, just
enough to pass Obamacare. However after the
bill passed the Senate, Democrat Senator Ted
Kennedy died. In his place, Massachusetts
elected Republican Scott Brown. That meant
that if the House made any changes to the bill
the Senate wouldn’t have the necessary
number of votes to pass the amended bill
(because they knew no Republicans would vote
for Obamacare). So Senate Leader Harry Reid
cut a deal with Pelosi: the House would pass
the Senate bill without any changes if the
Senate agreed to pass a separate bill by the
House that made changes to the Senate
version of Obamacare. This second bill was
called the Reconciliation Act of 2010. So the
House passed PPACA, the Senate bill, as well
as their Reconciliation Act. At this point PPACA
was ready for the President to sign, but the
Senate still needed to pass the Reconciliation
Act from the House.
Confused?
We all were.
And it got worse.
Remember that the Senate only had 59 votes
to pass the Reconciliation Act since Republican
Scott Brown replaced Democrat Ted Kennedy.
Therefore in order to pass the Act Senate
Democrats decided to change the rules. They
declared that they could use the “Reconciliation
Rule (this is a different “reconciliation” than the
House bill). This rule was only supposed to be
used for budget item approvals so that such
items could be passed with only 51 votes in the
Senate, not the usual 60. Reconciliation was
never intended to be used for legislation of the
magnitude of Obamacare. But that didn’t stop
them.
So both of the “Acts” were able to pass both
houses of Congress and sent to President
Obama for his signature without a single
Republican vote in favor of the legislation. The
American system of governance was shafted.
To quote Democrat Rep. Alcee Hastings of the
House Rules Committee during the bill process:
“We’re making up the rules as we go along.”"
http://www.briansussman.com/politics/how-obamacare-became-law/
^^^^ Just for the the disingenuous libs on this thread...


And let me reiterate a quote...

"" Democrat Rep. Alcee Hastings of the
House Rules Committee during the bill process:
“We’re making up the rules as we go along.”

And a cpl more from then...

"If you have a plan you can keep it..."

"We have to pass the bill to see whats in it..."

.....liberals....and THEY complain about Washington laugh

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Thu 03/17/16 02:21 PM


The biggest impediment to change isn't the President. It rarely is. After all, Presidents talk about things like "hope and change" all the time, but if the Congress they face digs in it's heels and refuses to support the President at all, or outright undercuts them, as happened for the last six years, then nothing gets done, or damage gets done.

The point is, no matter how heroic a President Americans tell themselves they elected, if they keep putting obstructionists, political hacks, and or pre-bribed people into the Senate and the House, only more of the same will result.


This is pretty comical because Obama has pretty much gotten whatever the phuck he wanted.

If the Congress didn't bend over for him fast enough then he used an executive order.

And to be honest you don't have a single fact to back up your opinion in that entire post..

Where are the facts? Where is the evidence you always blather on about?




First, show that YOU have read your own message. You're the one making the claim that Obama got everything he ever asked for. The Republicans have been veritably crowing about how proud they are to have blocked him over and over.

Latest episode: they are refusing to do their Constitutional duty to hear his nomination for a new Supreme Court Justice. Refusing IN ADVANCE to do their jobs.

Come on, you ask for proof, but you are the one making claims here, and citing zero factual support.

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Thu 03/17/16 02:49 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 03/17/16 02:53 PM



The biggest impediment to change isn't the President. It rarely is. After all, Presidents talk about things like "hope and change" all the time, but if the Congress they face digs in it's heels and refuses to support the President at all, or outright undercuts them, as happened for the last six years, then nothing gets done, or damage gets done.

The point is, no matter how heroic a President Americans tell themselves they elected, if they keep putting obstructionists, political hacks, and or pre-bribed people into the Senate and the House, only more of the same will result.


This is pretty comical because Obama has pretty much gotten whatever the phuck he wanted.

If the Congress didn't bend over for him fast enough then he used an executive order.

And to be honest you don't have a single fact to back up your opinion in that entire post..

Where are the facts? Where is the evidence you always blather on about?




First, show that YOU have read your own message. You're the one making the claim that Obama got everything he ever asked for. The Republicans have been veritably crowing about how proud they are to have blocked him over and over.

Latest episode: they are refusing to do their Constitutional duty to hear his nomination for a new Supreme Court Justice. Refusing IN ADVANCE to do their jobs.

Come on, you ask for proof, but you are the one making claims here, and citing zero factual support.
well,ain't that special,a Page out of the Democrat's Playbook!
Senate can have Hearings at their own convenience,Not at POTUS' Convenience!
They are NOT his Lackeys,regardless of what he thinks!

and Ernie is lying as if there was no tomorrow!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/269719-white-house-obama-regrets-his-filibuster-of-supreme-court-nominee:laughing:

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Thu 03/17/16 03:07 PM
http://grabien.com/file.php?id=79098&searchorder=date

Sen.Biden in 1992,Pres Bush should not name a Nominee until after the Nov.6th Election!laugh
What is good for the Goose is good for the Gander!

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Thu 03/17/16 07:58 PM

http://grabien.com/file.php?id=79098&searchorder=date

Sen.Biden in 1992,Pres Bush should not name a Nominee until after the Nov.6th Election!laugh
What is good for the Goose is good for the Gander!


So you're saying you supported Biden. Interesting.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/18/16 05:49 PM


Republicans say they may hold a Republican Convention if Donald Trump has the needed delegates to be the nominee for their party.
I feel what this Unionized Party is doing, is to keep Mr. Trump out, because this man has made waves and continues to, regarding our nation, our lost good paying jobs, our sovereignty, our Freedoms and Liberties, our Constitution, and what he feels needs an enormous change to bring this nation back on track to be respected by the world, and even by some that live here.
Washington/both parties is so afraid of losing their grip on their political agenda, their lies, scams, hidden taxes to keep themselves wealthy while the voters struggle again.
This is why an outsider is needed, to bust up and oust out this political thievery ring that prey upon us year after year. We lose, they gain from all directions. When the economy is bad, so should their salaries become smaller. Washington is full of lies and deceit.
What does it take for anyone to understand Washington is looking out for Washington and no one else? You go Mr. Trump, take them all to the cleaners as they have done America for decades. This is long over due in my opinion and much desired by many voters.
If a Republican Convention is held, there will be not only chaos, but a flat our peaceful war to not file a tax return with voters, you watch. Washington elites deserve everything coming to them.
Trump 2016!!!!!!


I am totally fed up with Washington... both sides. The " good ole old boy" atmosphere and PC is enough to make you throw up.

You may or may not like Trump, but he is NOT pc.. and he says a lot of things that the other politicians are thinking.. but not dare say out of fear of pissing someone or some group off.

He was asked about water boarding terrorists to gain info.. a no-no to all other politicians.. but Trump said.. " water board them.. when they stop chopping peoples heads off, we will stop waterboarding them"... sounds good to me.


that's great and all, most bullies are not pc but that doesn't give us cause to celebrate or support them,, just the opposite(for now)

being 'not pc' doesn't justify or outweigh being tacky and divisive

going after peoples families, spying on places of worship, punching people in the face for not supporting him, asking people to swear to vote for him, talking about menstrual periods, making fun of disabilities , inciting to riot, encouraging the passion of those who would descend violently on what they think is an illegal immigrant

its all not pc, and all great reasons to prevent this man from representing our country to the world, or having the power to make decisions over the lives and safety of others

perhaps some things are not 'pc' because they are simply wrong and disgusting