lol excuse the vast amounts of typos rofl
incl my addition LOL make it 6 girls. *shakes head*

Love the avatar.

Advertising sucks though. Get lost.

Im not advertising, Im trying to help guys realise that they can be utterly amazing with women WITHOUT having to sacrifice themselves to memorized lines and other 'techniques' since what we should be doing is being 110% NATURAL.

And this is what this guy teaches; how to become the most attractive version of YOU possible.

Yep.....seems to be working wonders for you

actually it has.
I've come out of a 4 year chronic suicidal depresson from this guys book. It hit me so hard and has changed my perspective of everything so profoundly that I am compelled to tell others about this guy.

IT WORKS

Do you know it is against forum rules to try to sell stuff here.....? You are 21 and were in a 4 yearsuicidal depression due to not knowing how to talk to women.....?

And player ....don't even get me started on you again...

Yes, I recovered last year feb. I was depressed from 15 to 19.
The only thing Im selling here is knowledge; is that a crime?
Im not pushing for his ebook or whatever. F R E E Newsletter.

My depression situation was very very complex; it wasnt that I didnt know how to talk to women, it was that I believed in the "she's out of your league" then suddenly I have this stunningly gorgeous girl taking interest in me, playing around with me (which was here trying to get me to open up in hinde sight) and that was 4 years of torture.

dont jump to conclusions of what almost killed someone FMA, judgemental tendancy isnt attractive.

Well ....Seings how it is my bedtime i will have to take your word on what is and isn't attractive......personally I don't find salesmen attractive so ....peace and good luck with your FREE product....

lol you're a crackup FMA,

thats right time machine! i like your confidence. i was in the hospital for depression also a few months ago. i belive the ebook works i havent heard it but i read his material. when i was young i could not talk to women now i get them

player, if you want I can give you some of his letters, I have kept them over the last year and a half?

no im ok. i read stuff like that when i was 14 now im a adult i can pretty much get any woman i want.
but thanks and i would say that you will get negative things because people feel its worng. thanks

ya i know, I expected this reaction as I've done this over at my regular forums aswell. I didnt expect this kind of doubt though, quite interesting.

I remember the 1st email I sent to the author, I wanted to give the book to a family friend whom has had every GF of his cheat on him incl is wife; he (the author said)

"they've got to be ready to ACCEPT the message."

or in other words; hit rock bottom.
I was there, the stranger I emailed was there.
I can see a few people here that are about to touch ground, so Im hoping they'll be keen to have a read of the letters.

i think you need to take the time to learn about each other. honesty and communication.

your right maxximus, but that only takes place AFTERwards.

you cant apply that advice to a guy that is clueless in approaching women, where MOST guys will want to approach attractive women, and the more attractive, the more spoiled and the more difficult it is for them to give the dude a chance.

Just being yourself is a great start tho!
xoxoPeaches.

your dead right preaches, but it shouldnt be a START, guys should be themselves 110% 24/7, 365.
But fact is 90% of guys ARENT themselves!

they TRY to impress
they TRY to be funny
they TRY to be interesting
they TRY too hard! its this overt attempt at -trying- to get the womens attention that is setting them back.
instead of trying SO HARD, why not NOT try at all?
that way the guy comes across as laid back, not needy/clingy etc etc.
This isnt a 'technique' or 'move' like some kind of strategy game
Its the way guys SHOULD be as THEMSELVES but they are NOT because they lack self value.

If I was wrong about this lack of self value ie: self esteem and security; why do guys TRY SO HARD?
If they REALLY felt VALUE they would think "I am worthy AS I AM to get womens attention."

problem is SO many guys have the WRONG concept of how to be attractive with women, this is what this guy teaches: HOW to BECOME (not memorize or learn techniques) the most attractive version of *YOURSELF*

"they TRY to impress"
The things I've done in life DO impress.

"they TRY to be funny"
I AM funny.

"they TRY to be interesting"
Few more interesting than I.

"they TRY too hard!"
What the hell does that even mean? Everyone says it, but they don't say HOW.

"instead of trying SO HARD, why not NOT try at all?"
That doesn't make any conceivable sense. If you want someone to say "hello" to you, the logical thing to do is to say "hello" first, so there's at least a 50-50 chance that the someone will say "hello" in return. If you want to meet girls and you don't try to meet them, what are you doing? Sitting back, being by yourself, and wasting time, that's what.
I've tried not trying. It was somehow even less successful than all my failed attempts at trying to try.

"This isnt a 'technique' or 'move' like some kind of strategy game"
It's not a technique or move, but you have to learn it, huh?

"If I was wrong about this lack of self value ie: self esteem and security; why do guys TRY SO HARD?"
Because attracting women has been one of the greatest conundrums to plague mankind ever since language was first developed and things got more complicated after you couldn't simply beat a woman over the head with a club and haul her into your cave.

"If they REALLY felt VALUE they would think "I am worthy AS I AM to get womens attention.""
That's exactly what I DO think, and I'm being accused of being a pretentious asshole because of it.

"problem is SO many guys have the WRONG concept of how to be attractive with women, this is what this guy teaches: HOW to BECOME (not memorize or learn techniques) the most attractive version of *YOURSELF*"
This guy has no idea who I am. What does he think he knows about *myself*?